Three more supplements I wouldn't mind seeing
-an appetite stimulant
-an autophagy booster
-something for tinnitus (might be impossible)
-an appetite stimulant
-an autophagy booster
-something for tinnitus (might be impossible)
We will be doing something for autophagy for sure.Three more supplements I wouldn't mind seeing
-an appetite stimulant
-an autophagy booster
-something for tinnitus (might be impossible)
Thank you for the kind and positive words.Hello Steve,
I wanted to thank you, you are exceptional! I enjoy ordering from you, My Monday order arrived today!
While I'm in EU. It's very fast you can be sure! Usually I have to wait 15 days for another distributor. I had a follow up from Debbie who made sure everything was fine!
Thank you very much for this professionalism. I will probably order again next week because, I had not taken everything.
Enjoy!
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Do you believe that Brewer's yeast ( beer yeast) is usable?
Like: Brewer's yeast ( for appetite control and intestin cleanner etc... )+ B12
Or Brewer's yeast for appetite control + B12
Ok Beer yeast + b12 + spirulina + Zinc and Vitamin C
Another
D-ribose + gaba + hyperuzine ?
I'm definitely open to a thyroid boosting product in general. I can think of several ingredients that would be a good foundation base for it.My wife was recently diagnosed with low thyroid. We go to an integrative practice (you and I have PM’d about the location) so they told her to try a raw form of zinc three times a week. Her T3 was slightly out of range on the low end. I was thinking, something that could raise T3 a little and support the thyroid in general but I wasn’t aware you had a product in the past. I don’t blame you for being hesitate of doing one with 3,3 and 3,5 and they’re compliance. Maybe the raw zinc will help her. She just started the raw zinc and progesterone cream yesterday. She’s also going to start taking a low dose of compounded transdermal test.
You're welcome Steve, My pleasure,Thank you for the kind and positive words.
I'm glad to hear that your order arrived so quickly, that's awesome.
Some people really seem to like Brewer's Yeast; its probably not one that we would do ourselves because its already offered by so many brands and is pretty cheap so I don't think we could really offer it at a better price than its already available at.
I'm curious what your thought is on Ribose, GABA, and Huperzine together?
We offer GABA powder and Huperzine A 99% separately and I agree that they make a good stack.You're welcome Steve, My pleasure,
I took them during a stressful time. Gaba with hyperuzin. After some research in 2017, This alkaloid can cross the blood-brain barrier and I had assumed that coupled with Gaba which behaves almost the same way may have calming effects and also apparently play a role on the vagus nerve. Inhibitory effects of GABA serve to counteract the excitatory (activating) effects of glutamate. D-ribose can help muscle relaxation while preserving its construction. It promotes certain vital organs, It attacks bad cholesterol and contributes to good sleep.
I had made this stack with these three compounds. I had good positive effects after 15 days of taking it. I felt I was more open to dealing with work overload. I had also supplemented with melatonin at night. There have only been improvements.
But attention hyperuzine if it is not of quality can cause itching...
I had forgotten this stack and while arranging my drawers I came across an old empty box of HyperUzine vode and I remembered this efficiency.
Thanks Steve. If you decide to release one I’ll definitely buy it for her.I'm definitely open to a thyroid boosting product in general. I can think of several ingredients that would be a good foundation base for it.
I hope that the regimen helps her.
Thanks. I had put together a tentative formula a little over a year ago for one. I'll dig it up and refresh on it and see what else I can add and see if I can make something happen.Thanks Steve. If you decide to release one I’ll definitely buy it for her.
You da man!!Thanks. I had put together a tentative formula a little over a year ago for one. I'll dig it up and refresh on it and see what else I can add and see if I can make something happen.
Purely from an endurance perspective I'd give Peak02 the edge over Epiplex (though running both of them together is spectacular). Overall though I prefer Epiplex if I had to pick just one. Almost as good for endurance improvement, but also some body recomp benefits that Peak02 doesn't provide.Hey all, for endurance (both aerobic and anaerobic), do y’all recommend Peak02 or Epi-Plex? I’ve used tons of Peak02 and enjoy it, but I’ve never tried Epi-Plex so wondering if anyone who has tried both has a preference
I am going to overly simplify this and with the caveat that this doesn't mean both don't help either situation quite well.Hey all, for endurance (both aerobic and anaerobic), do y’all recommend Peak02 or Epi-Plex? I’ve used tons of Peak02 and enjoy it, but I’ve never tried Epi-Plex so wondering if anyone who has tried both has a preference
I’m slowly building up my running endurance. I resistance train 4-5x/wk, and this has been my primary focus for ~10 years. I always sprinkled cardio in for general wellness, but now I’m really just trying to maintain current lifts and volume while simultaneously increasing cardio endurance.I am going to overly simplify this and with the caveat that this doesn't mean both don't help either situation quite well.
That said...
If you primarily lift and have body composition goals: Epi-Plex
If you do more cardio and like being "active" outside of the gym: PeakO2
I find both do have a decent overlap with benefits, but epi-plex helps more with pumps and body composition. Peako2 for me personally helps more with recovery, training volume, and cardio activities.
Isn't fruiting body better then mycelium?Something I found interesting. We know Peak02 is a prop blend of 6 mushrooms, but I came across a product that has the exact mg of each listed. That alone was interesting, but also the fact some are fruiting body while some are mycelium was noteworthy. I assumed all the mushrooms were mycelium. No idea if this is accurate View attachment 230339
I think that’s often the general consensus. It has been a while since I’ve reviewed the literature, but if I recall correctly, mycelium will typically have lower levels of beta glucans and triterpenoids.Isn't fruiting body better then mycelium?
I don’t believe this is accurate as no company can display the dosage of each if the Ingredient is a proprietary blend in itself.Something I found interesting. We know Peak02 is a prop blend of 6 mushrooms, but I came across a product that has the exact mg of each listed. That alone was interesting, but also the fact some are fruiting body while some are mycelium was noteworthy. I assumed all the mushrooms were mycelium. No idea if this is accurate View attachment 230339
They might not be supposed to disclose it but accidents happen. That’s awfully specificI don’t believe this is accurate as no company can display the dosage of each if the Ingredient is a proprietary blend in itself.
Great info.I think that’s often the general consensus. It has been a while since I’ve reviewed the literature, but if I recall correctly, mycelium will typically have lower levels of beta glucans and triterpenoids.
But, with Peak02, we have I believe two or three clinical trials showing efficacy so that’s important to me. Increased peak power, vo2 max, time to exhaustion.
If picking one or the other and endurance is the only factor, my suggestion is PEAK02 for cardiovascular endurance and Epi-Plex for muscular endurance.Hey all, for endurance (both aerobic and anaerobic), do y’all recommend Peak02 or Epi-Plex? I’ve used tons of Peak02 and enjoy it, but I’ve never tried Epi-Plex so wondering if anyone who has tried both has a preference
I agree. Great post and explanation.Purely from an endurance perspective I'd give Peak02 the edge over Epiplex (though running both of them together is spectacular). Overall though I prefer Epiplex if I had to pick just one. Almost as good for endurance improvement, but also some body recomp benefits that Peak02 doesn't provide.
Agreed. Great post and explanation.I am going to overly simplify this and with the caveat that this doesn't mean both don't help either situation quite well.
That said...
If you primarily lift and have body composition goals: Epi-Plex
If you do more cardio and like being "active" outside of the gym: PeakO2
I find both do have a decent overlap with benefits, but epi-plex helps more with pumps and body composition. Peako2 for me personally helps more with recovery, training volume, and cardio activities.
I think if you're trying to build up your cardiovascular endurance, then PEAK02 was the right choice if you were oinly looking to go with one or the other.I’m slowly building up my running endurance. I resistance train 4-5x/wk, and this has been my primary focus for ~10 years. I always sprinkled cardio in for general wellness, but now I’m really just trying to maintain current lifts and volume while simultaneously increasing cardio endurance.
I went with Peak02 (once again).
I removed the picture from my quote because I don't believe it to be exactly accurate.Something I found interesting. We know Peak02 is a prop blend of 6 mushrooms, but I came across a product that has the exact mg of each listed. That alone was interesting, but also the fact some are fruiting body while some are mycelium was noteworthy. I assumed all the mushrooms were mycelium. No idea if this is accurate
The more I've looked into mushrooms, the more I've found that so many companies, suppliers, and supposed experts are either full of crap or just repeating and rehashing what someone else has said.Isn't fruiting body better then mycelium?
PEAK02 is clinically researched and its noteworthy that the most talked about study was done on actual athletes - which is great because if an ingredient can produce results in people that are already high level, then that should mean at least as good of results and probably better results on those that aren't.I think that’s often the general consensus. It has been a while since I’ve reviewed the literature, but if I recall correctly, mycelium will typically have lower levels of beta glucans and triterpenoids.
But, with Peak02, we have I believe two or three clinical trials showing efficacy so that’s important to me. Increased peak power, vo2 max, time to exhaustion.
You are correct. I don't think its accurate and even if they did break down the exact ones and were accurate, it would be a violation of their NDA to use the ingredient to begin with.I don’t believe this is accurate as no company can display the dosage of each if the Ingredient is a proprietary blend in itself.
That's not an accident - if it were true (and I don't think it is), that would be a violation of their licensing agreement because when you license an ingredient, you're told exactly how to list it on the label.They might not be supposed to disclose it but accidents happen. That’s awfully specific
I've been thinking about doing a GBB ingredient and had been debating on whether to do a 50 mg. or 60 mg. per capsule dose.Just straight up GBB, 50mg/cap. Been buying this from Unbound but would buy it from SNS instead.
I don't mind sweating so I like this. 50mg or 60mg would be good.I've been thinking about doing a GBG ingredient and had been debating on whether to do a 50 mg. or 60 mg. per capsule dose.
I had mentioned this last year and I had label artwork and everything done but when I mentioned it, I didn't get much feedback on people seeming interested so wound up never doing it. It's easily doable and I'm glad to do it if there is enough interest.I don't mind sweating so I like this. 50mg or 60mg would be good.
cool idea but it’s already in so many products that I personally wouldn’t also buy it solo.I had mentioned this last year and I had label artwork and everything done but when I mentioned it, I didn't get much feedback on people seeming interested so wound up never doing it. It's easily doable and I'm glad to do it if there is enough interest.
I agree, I think that is probably the thought process on it; I think I might do a small run on it and see how it goes.cool idea but it’s already in so many products that I personally wouldn’t also buy it solo.
I imagine the tepid responses might also be along that line of thinking
I know this has been mentioned before but I'll bring it up again in 2023... Any chance for a PLCAR-500 comeback?I had mentioned this last year and I had label artwork and everything done but when I mentioned it, I didn't get much feedback on people seeming interested so wound up never doing it. It's easily doable and I'm glad to do it if there is enough interest.
PLCAR-500 did not sell well at all for us. The last batch we ever did, we lost more money off of than we ever made from the product because we had to give so many units away just to get rid of them before they expired.I know this has been mentioned before but I'll bring it up again in 2023... Any chance for a PLCAR-500 comeback?
Would you ever put it in a formula?PLCAR-500 did not sell well at all for us. The last batch we ever did, we lost more money off of than we ever made from the product because we had to give so many units away just to get rid of them before they expired.
Plus, its something that is very difficult to run a small run of because the raw materials are very sticky and will cause issues with manufacturing equipment. Many contract manufacturers won't run it at all and most wouldn't run a small batch of it because of the cleanup challenges it presents with the equipment; and if they were to, they would charge so much extra it wouldn't be worth it.
This is one that if I were to ever do again, I would have to have a guaranteed way to know that we would sell at least a certain amount of bottles in order to break even, and I don't know that there's any way to truly know that.
I’d personally like it in an endurance/cardio-enhancement productWould you ever put it in a formula?
Not in a powdered one because the stickiness and clumping is a whole different level than most things.Would you ever put it in a formula?
I think PLCAR definitely has some benefits to it, but I honestly didn't get much in terms of vascularity and endurance. Maybe for its time period, but I think we have overall better things for those purposes now.I’m a fan of PLCAR! My first experience was in 2017 combining it with Glycomyx(purple sweet potatoes powder+glucomannan). It produced better vascularity and muscular endurance for me. But as you’ve stated, it didn’t pan out business wise. Speaking of, if it hasn’t been mentioned, what about a carb powder? Sometimes I just want to slam a protein shake with carb powder over eating a meal. Especially early a.m. or before cardio.
I wanted to reply to your carb powder thought separately.Speaking of, if it hasn’t been mentioned, what about a carb powder? Sometimes I just want to slam a protein shake with carb powder over eating a meal. Especially early a.m. or before cardio.
Love the idea of a solo “Tri-Carnitine” supplementNot in a powdered one because the stickiness and clumping is a whole different level than most things.
A lot of contract manufacturers will not even run this ingredient now days for anything less than several thousand units because it sticks to the equipment and it is a nightmare to run, get consistent fill weights, and then clean the equipment.
A lot of brands in the past that claimed to be offering this at moderate to high dosages likely weren't - they may have known that, or they may have believed they were and had their cm's fibbing to them about it bc they didn't want to run it.
I'm sure I could find a place to run it, but I would never ask our primary cm's to bc I wouldn't want them upset with me or slow down other things; but its one of only several products that we've really lost money on big time.
I always say that sometimes there's a big difference between what people talk about buying and using and what people really buy and use - and the PLCAR-500 label literally pops up in my mind every time I say or write that haha.
I did at one time think about doing a multi-carnitine that was like 250 mg. PLCAR, 250 mg. ALCAR, and 250 mg. LCLT. That I may consider if enough people were interested in it.
I truly wish there was a way to gauge how well something would sell before it came out, because if I knew that x amount of people would definitely 100% for sure buy PLCAR, especially 6 packs or 12 packs, I would be willing to give PLCAR-500 a chance again, but I'm not sure any good way of gauging that.
Lol you could do a kickstarter type thing where people pay in advance for you to do a small batch runI think PLCAR definitely has some benefits to it, but I honestly didn't get much in terms of vascularity and endurance. Maybe for its time period, but I think we have overall better things for those purposes now.
I'm thinking on PLCAR - to me able to attempt it now, I would have to find a way to gauge who would really buy it and how many - as in to make sure we could sell enough to at least break even and not lose money. If anyone has ideas on how to accurately do that, I'd love to hear them.
^^^ to further explain that, a lot of people think of SNS as a company as just me, and while I do call the shots on most things, my CPA would probably drive over to the warehouse and kick me in the nuts if I brought it back without knowing x amount were or would sell haha![]()
Maybe a nice stack with Epi-Plex!PeptiStrong study: Improved strength recovery, reduced fatigue, and reduced myostatin. Furthermore, “a concomitant increase in other acute markers regulating muscle protein synthesis, regeneration and myoblast differentiation was also observed.”
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Improved Strength Recovery and Reduced Fatigue with Suppressed Plasma Myostatin Following Supplementation of a Vicia faba Hydrolysate, in a Healthy Male Population
Delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS) due to intense physical exertion can negatively impact contractility and performance. Previously, NPN_1 (PeptiStrong™), a Vicia faba hydrolysate derived from a protein concentrate discovered through artificial intelligence (AI), was preclinically shown to...www.mdpi.com
That's a good idea. I had thought about something like that but I really don't know anything about stuff like that. It would be great if something like that could work though.Lol you could do a kickstarter type thing where people pay in advance for you to do a small batch run
I thought about a subscription option and its something we may implement at some point.Has someone already brought up a subscribe & save option for the site? Basically like Amazon where I could have my list of products delivered the 1st (or whenever) of every month for a small percentage discount.
Subscribe and save on 3 products? 10% discount.
Subscribe and save on 5 products? 15% discount.
Subscribe and save on 10 products? 25% discount.
Now, I recognize your multi-pack options potentially negate the benefit of this program, but just throwing it out there![]()
PeptiStrong study: Improved strength recovery, reduced fatigue, and reduced myostatin. Furthermore, “a concomitant increase in other acute markers regulating muscle protein synthesis, regeneration and myoblast differentiation was also observed.”
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Improved Strength Recovery and Reduced Fatigue with Suppressed Plasma Myostatin Following Supplementation of a Vicia faba Hydrolysate, in a Healthy Male Population
Delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS) due to intense physical exertion can negatively impact contractility and performance. Previously, NPN_1 (PeptiStrong™), a Vicia faba hydrolysate derived from a protein concentrate discovered through artificial intelligence (AI), was preclinically shown to...www.mdpi.com
Maybe a nice stack with Epi-Plex!
You're welcome to send me the studies.Steve @sns8778, was recently reading some studies on New Zealand blackcurrant having a potent fat oxidizing effect in combo with walking and or LISS. Have you ever looked into this ingredient? Im not making claims either way, just saw some impressive numbers there. Can send or link the study if you'd like.
You're welcome to send me the studies.
I like Black Currant in general and we actually use it in our Immune Support XT product.
Thank you. I really appreciate that. Word of mouth and recommendations mean a lot.![]()
New Zealand blackcurrant extract enhances fat oxidation during prolonged cycling in endurance-trained females - PubMed
Intake of NZBC extract for 7 days elevated resting concentrations of plasma NEFA and glycerol, indicative of higher lipolytic rates, and this may underpin the observed increase in fat oxidation during prolonged cycling in endurance-trained females.pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Enhanced Walking-Induced Fat Oxidation by New Zealand Blackcurrant Extract Is Body Composition-Dependent in Recreationally Active Adult Females
New Zealand blackcurrant (NZBC) extract enhanced cycling-induced fat oxidation in female endurance athletes. We examined in recreationally active females the effects of NZBC extract on physiological and metabolic responses by moderate-intensity walking ...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
these are the two I read recently, thanks for the feedback.
FWIW SNS is my favorite supp company, and I recommend to everyone. 90% of my daily supps / staples are from you guys lol. That said, it is also why I trust your interpretation of these data sets when discussing the effectiveness of products t/ ingredients.
This seems to suggest that it wouldn’t do much in the absence of exercise. Looks like it helps release fatty acids from fat stores. They measured higher NEFA and glycerol pre exercise. The increased fat oxidation during might just be from the higher blood levels rather than directly from the extract.![]()
New Zealand blackcurrant extract enhances fat oxidation during prolonged cycling in endurance-trained females - PubMed
Intake of NZBC extract for 7 days elevated resting concentrations of plasma NEFA and glycerol, indicative of higher lipolytic rates, and this may underpin the observed increase in fat oxidation during prolonged cycling in endurance-trained females.pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Enhanced Walking-Induced Fat Oxidation by New Zealand Blackcurrant Extract Is Body Composition-Dependent in Recreationally Active Adult Females
New Zealand blackcurrant (NZBC) extract enhanced cycling-induced fat oxidation in female endurance athletes. We examined in recreationally active females the effects of NZBC extract on physiological and metabolic responses by moderate-intensity walking ...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
these are the two I read recently, thanks for the feedback.
FWIW SNS is my favorite supp company, and I recommend to everyone. 90% of my daily supps / staples are from you guys lol. That said, it is also why I trust your interpretation of these data sets when discussing the effectiveness of products t/ ingredients.