BTW, I meant to state this in my previous post -- but if you just want to outright sell one/both of your old Excelsior tubs (I think you said you had 2, if I'm not mistaken?) for cash and not worry about trading for anything, just let me know what sort of price range you have in mind. I can't afford to spend a ridiculous amount of money (circumstances might've been different had I not wasted all this money on these bum-ass PWOs, LOL), but I'd be curious to hear what sort of price you'd have in mind, either way.i have both a smooth lid and a ridged lid. the smooth lid is what i have open. i do believe it has something but doesn’t effect me the same as excelsior.