wideguy said:You know something, I'd kinda like to have that last statement "stricken from the record". I'm really optomisic about this product, and have alot of faith in the peolple behind it. However, the var comment is just retarded and making a comparison between something otc and an AAS was mocked in the beggining of this thread from the get go. I'm kinda embarassed I even went there, sorry.
sublimejeh said:any new info on testers? I think you said sometime early this week
bigpetefox said:Will this pop up in my shipment sometime soon, or should I harass Jeff?![]()
wideguy said:Next week? Bro unless I'm completey spaced out or missing something I can get it right now. Planetary nutrion has it for like $25, plus 10% off. It's like a sore -ick, you just cant' beat it!:head:
CDB said:Nice write up. Considering there's no PCT needed $60 or so for an effective month long cycle isn't unreasonable if it works as advertised.
Grassroots082 said:Agreed, I think it will be worth it. My Ecdy experiment went very well and I didn't even use a really high dose and the ecdy was questionable (BAC) and tasted like ass. 600mg/day for 30 days is something I will be looking into :twisted:
Don't use that little scoop bro, cap it if you can. I hate the way it tastes. I would try to get 500 of the active a day but I am sure some was wasted in the process. Looked alot fuller in the mirror, but its a pain in the ass to carry that powder with you everyday to work and take half of it by scooping it in my hand.CDB said:I've got two tubs of BAC ecdy sitting in my closet. I may give 'em a run. I think the claimed dose is 75mgs of 20-hydroxy in each dose, with 188 doses per tub. That means I could get close to a gram of active each day (if their claim is justified) for a month if I wanted to. i might give it a whirl this coming month. Now that the weather is a little more stable, and drier, here in the north east my knees don't feel like I have shaved glass in them. Working out intensly is more of an attractive option again.
mrmotivator said:Any noticeable gains in strength yet?
Derek_aka_Beast said:LOL, ok now I have done these weights before while bulking, but they have gone down.
I had planned on doing rack deads 3 sets of 495 X 5. I did the first set and it was way too easy, so I put another plate on. Then I did 585 X 5 for 3 sets.
Bent Over Row-I had planned on doing 305, but I was working in with someone doing shrugs with 315, so I just did that. Got 5 easy. Bumped it to 365 X did 2 more sets of 5 reps.
Barbell Curl- Planned on doing 185 for 3 X 3 and did 185 for 3 X 5 reps.
I felt REALLY strong today.
stri8ted_planet said:Correct. We initially werent taking orders until we received it but several customers wanted to go ahead and preorder it so we adjusted the system to make that possible. According to Scivation we should receive it by mid next week.
flytrapcan said:Sorry for my ignorance, but I'll ask anyway. Is this product catagorized as a PH?
flytrapcan said:Well here's to hoping Canada gets a try.
Hbs6 said:Whats the suggested cycle length for this because obviously you need to take more if your bigger, so i would like to know how many bottles would be needed if one would want to purchase this. thx, sorry if it is somewhere in the thread i skimmed through so i might have missed it.
Derek_aka_Beast said:No PCT at all.
You can run it forever if you want, non hormonal..Hbs6 said:so does time on = time off with this product?
Hbs6 said:i am so confused then, ihave done a lot of reading about this product, then what is the main way (i know that is a terrible was to put it) or pathway that this product uses to work...
Hbs6 said:yes i have, but still a little confused, i mean, i read what it says but I keep hearing "nonhormonal" but then it sounds like its effecting hormones. Thats why i am confused, sorry if i sound like an idiot.
Meaning: No PCT!!Derek_aka_Beast said:increases protein synthesis + decreases protein breakdown = more muscle gained and less loss
Decreases stress = decreases chance of overtraining and recovery from exercise.
In short it makes your recovery quicker and enhances growth.
Unlike a hormone which binds to a receptor to increase gene expression, ECDY increases gene expression, RNA synthesis, and protein translation without binding to a receptor in the nucleus of a cell. It does not bind to the androgen receptor or affect hormone levels.