Recreate, AP, and Jack3d
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I believe I missed something...
Anyways, hope you put your head back together explosions are no good for it.
Anyways, hope you put your head back together explosions are no good for it.
clemente13
Member
i just started this stack as well feels great i love USPLABS cant wait to get down to my goal bf thanks guys i love this stuff
MrKleen73
Legend
Congrats on your success bro!
Hilarious!!!!!!
Man you have found the right company to recomp with. If you get the chance to add the Asteroid stack to it you will put on size while cutting. It is insane...
clemente13
Member
I am on the same stack.....and would love to try asteroid stack great reviews and all my friends love that stack but I'm not ballin enough to drop $120 
sucks to be me
sucks to be me
MrKleen73
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I am on the same stack.....and would love to try asteroid stack great reviews and all my friends love that stack but I'm not ballin enough to drop $120
Put a twenty in your sock drawer here and there and you will have it before you know it. That is how I get my stuff. I may have to save up a month or two but hey man all the sacrifices we make in the way of food and training, what is saving up for a little bit to get an effective product that has been proven over and over again.
clemente13
Member
ya i guess i can try that
pintindola
New member
Just went to Nutraplanet to check prices. They've got AP and Recreate for $59.00 total. Thats a killer deal, so I jumped on those products. Compared to $42 for each one at GNC. I already have Jack3d and can't wait to cut my belly fat in half.
I'm not in great shape yet, been working out for 5 months now. In that 5 months, I've already dropped 30 pounds of flab. Still flabby, but starting to see some muscle growth.
Should I take this stack or is it only for people in great shape looking to get that little bit off them that they can't get?
I love USP products though. Jack3d and Recreate and Protein powder are all I've taken thus far in my 5 months of working out.
I'm not in great shape yet, been working out for 5 months now. In that 5 months, I've already dropped 30 pounds of flab. Still flabby, but starting to see some muscle growth.
Should I take this stack or is it only for people in great shape looking to get that little bit off them that they can't get?
I love USP products though. Jack3d and Recreate and Protein powder are all I've taken thus far in my 5 months of working out.
MrKleen73
Legend
Absolutely take this man, it is the next step in the journey. Congrats on your progress so far. You will really enjoy what this combination does for you. Anabolic Pump will become a staple for you and you will love it. There is definitely a reason they call Anabolic Pump and Recreate the Six Pack Stack, it works! There is a little pamphlet inside of the Anabolic Pump that even has some dietary sugestions you can use to make it even more effective.
Mekanic
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Been sick. I'm pretty stim tolerant so the full 3 scoops of jack3d is required for me to get some tingles. Great stuff
Recreate is still burning me up, I don't get much on the appetite suppression, but I seem to be one of very few who don't. I don't have a problem eating clean tho.
AP... omfg AP is amazing. get it, even if you're not stacking it, just get it. Its easy to take, since I only have about 2 carb meals a day a bottle lasts a nice long time, and I'm seriously impressed by it in all aspects.
Started on Jack3d about 4 months ago, then recreate about 2 months ago, then added AP last month.
Since adding AP, my BF has dropped NOTICEABLY. I've shed another 6lb, and I've added 20lb onto my BP, 10lb onto my incline fly's, 25lb on my preacher curls, its been AMAZING to recomp like this.
I'm all tingly waiting for the IC release of O-E-P, as I'm almost out of recreate, and am gonna switch to O-E-P when I can get my hands on it.
The only other thing I take is protein, fish oil, and a multi.
~Rich
MrKleen73
Legend
Wow Great progress in a month Rich! If you have it you should hit up the PRIME 2 pack with the free AP for 69 bucks you can't bet that deal. The recomp from PRIME and AP is ridiculous!
MrKleen73
Legend
AP 15-30 minutes before carb containing meals shouldn't be too much of a problem, I keep mine in a small pill holder. If I am coming up on meal time I pop one in my mouth put under my tongue to get some extra spit going and swallow it. Don't even need water. Powerfull is harder to dose as it is 1 hour away from food on either side. So you eat your last meal wait an hour take your powerfull. Wake up take your AP, shower, eat breakfast, get to work take your powerfull when you get there or on the way depending on length of commute. PowerFull doesn't have to be taken around the workout. It will give a little extra positive aggression for the workout but the effects of GH last so long once they have been released that getting a spike 2 times a day is good enough to keep the fat coming off and muscle coming on whether close to a workout or not. So don't obsess about getting powerfull in for pre workout so much as getting in 2 well times doses.
JudoJosh
Pro Virili Parte
Were u running the new bottle or the old one? J hear great things about the old one but heard they chaned the ingredients and the new version is weaker
maybe it's just rumors? I wanna tri the trio stacked together either way was just curious which one u ran
MrKleen73
Legend
PAY ATTENTION TO THIS POST!!!!
Josh, I am VERY happy you just mention this. Forgive the yelling it is not pointed at you but the fact I want to get this info out in the open.
NONE OF USP LABS PRODUCTS HAVE CHANGED THEIR INGREDIENTS!!!!!!!!
I repeat, NONE OF USP LABS PRODUCTS HAVE CHANGED THEIR INGREDIENTS!!!!!!!!
USP Labs as well as all other supplement companies are being governed by the FDA now. The have been specifically informed by the FDA that they have to use the names of the herbs that the FDA has assigned the herbs and extracts. These are the exact same ingredients that were in the products before, in the same doses or STRONGER. The ingredients come from the same plants, and same processing labs that they always have. They just have to follow the exact same ingredients name as what is listed on FDA instead of trade names and what not. There is NO difference in these products ingredients.
The only changes recently to any USP Labs products have been increased doses due to improved facilities being able to get more product into each pill for the same cost to you the consumer. SuperCissus Rx, and PRIME have both had recent increases on the doseages per pill.
I have a feeling you would see an entire supplement yanked if they could not use the same ingredients rather than them going to a weaker option to keep the product. That just is not how USP Labs does business.
Josh, I am VERY happy you just mention this. Forgive the yelling it is not pointed at you but the fact I want to get this info out in the open.
NONE OF USP LABS PRODUCTS HAVE CHANGED THEIR INGREDIENTS!!!!!!!!
I repeat, NONE OF USP LABS PRODUCTS HAVE CHANGED THEIR INGREDIENTS!!!!!!!!
USP Labs as well as all other supplement companies are being governed by the FDA now. The have been specifically informed by the FDA that they have to use the names of the herbs that the FDA has assigned the herbs and extracts. These are the exact same ingredients that were in the products before, in the same doses or STRONGER. The ingredients come from the same plants, and same processing labs that they always have. They just have to follow the exact same ingredients name as what is listed on FDA instead of trade names and what not. There is NO difference in these products ingredients.
The only changes recently to any USP Labs products have been increased doses due to improved facilities being able to get more product into each pill for the same cost to you the consumer. SuperCissus Rx, and PRIME have both had recent increases on the doseages per pill.
I have a feeling you would see an entire supplement yanked if they could not use the same ingredients rather than them going to a weaker option to keep the product. That just is not how USP Labs does business.
SynergyIre
Active member
The best solution I found when keeping perfect timing was using a count down on my iPhone, but ended up still getting great results taking AP and Recreate together about 20 minutes before food. If I'm doing AP and Cissus, I take both 15 minutes before.
I mean at one point I was micro-managing Recreate at 30, AP at 15, and Cissus at 10 lol.
Also, there is a AP manual with different timings based off different carb reaction so you might be advised to take it a bit earlier anyways depending on your carb reaction.
It's a rumour... Powerfull was, and still is awesome!
MrKleen73
Legend
Hell Yeah it would. I ran that stack for my Competition prep. Phenominal!!!!!! An extra 500 cals up a day from where I was and I would have steadily piled on weight. Look at this log for a reference it was a recomp I did this summer. Now keep in mind I have 20 lus years in the game so making progress doesn't come easy, well before the Asteroid Stack anyway. Check it out.
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MrKleen73
Legend
Good news! SuperCissus Rx dosing has changed to "with meals" anectdotal evidence showed that there was no need to take the dose prior to eating that it was just as effective being taken with the meal. I am not sure when that will be changed on the label. However things just got easier. As far as the PowerFull you may have gotten great results with the 20 minutes prior but they would have been better an hour away from food. Your glands rech peak GH production at 30 minues afrter dosing and begin to decline slowly from there over the next 30 minutes. In norder to get maximum GH secretion you want to wait the full hour before eating wich send the signal to stop GH production. The presence of insulin in your system also blunts GH production which is why it needs to be taken an hour after your last feeding. Hence the 1 hour on either side. The SuperSapponins in PowerFULL will be effective regardless but the GH production portion is missing if not dosed correctly. Many people I have informed of this fact have found this to be true when thjey made the effort to dose correctly noticed a huge difference in how well the product worked.
JudoJosh
Pro Virili Parte
Thanks for the link bud... I'll try and read through it when I get a chance. Read some of the first post an it looks good, I like ur workout ideology, I am kinda the same way, like to lift full body complex lifts every workout, only way to go I believe
you had a decent list of supps there.. I wish icN afford to run them are bit I'm married and my wife would kill me, she already threatens too when my credit card bill comes in lol.. I was waiting for oep to release and will proly throw that in the mix.
you had a decent list of supps there.. I wish icN afford to run them are bit I'm married and my wife would kill me, she already threatens too when my credit card bill comes in lol.. I was waiting for oep to release and will proly throw that in the mix.
SynergyIre
Active member
Good to know, especially since I know a few family members who would benefit from cissus but are put off by timed doses.
I've actually always doses it with an hour on each side, but interesting to know more science behind it.
Assuming then you could use bulk SuperSapponins more effectively alone with p-slin/Mass Monster shake, keeping the bulk 1-carboxy and/or powerfull caps for night.
MrKleen73
Legend
The last bit is probably a safe assumption. I definitely use SuperSapponins when I am having carbs intra workout, and dose the carboxy later. Hoever if you can get 2 GH boosts in a day even better.
Mekanic
New member
Thank you!
I've hit a slight wall the last week, I'm thinkin it's cause my diet has slacked, everything keeps feeling heavy and its pissin me off lol.
I'm holding steady at 185, but can see the fat steadily coming off.
I'm gonna be getting in on that deal at NP, its a sick price for that combo, the only thing that was holding me back from prime was the cost, not specifically the bottle price, but the amount of caps you have to take.
I'm still sittin here all moist waiting for my IC email about O.E.P.
One thing tho, I've read several people in the O.E.P reviews breaking the caps open and taking the powder... would I see any benefit doing that with Recreate or AP?
On a side note..last night I did my first workout in a while without Jack3d... that WONT happen again haha! [comicbookguy] Worst...Workout...EVER[/comicbookguy]
MrKleen73
Legend
It is a total different feel isn't it. You know I don't know of any reason to crack open the caps for OEP other than to get it to hit faster. I don't think there would be any benefit to doing that with ReCreate, it is not a stim. As far as doing it with Anabolic Pump if you don't have the 15-30 minutes to wait then opening the cap would shave some time off the wait before you eat, but it is REALLY bitter so I wouldn't opt to do it if you have another option.
oufinny
Well-known member
Being someone that is taking OEP, I don't recommend breaking the caps open. AP is particularly horrible tasting and SCRx will make me gag if the parachute I take it in breaks in my mouth. Herbals do not taste good so just be happy you have pills to take.
MrKleen73
Legend
Parachute, no way throw a half teaspoon of SCRx on your tongue, grab a drink thow it back and swallow. Now that AP, I have to admit it is NASTY. Take BC powder, find a way to make it 2 times more bitter, then make it so that it saturates anything porous that it touches including your tongues tastebuds so that you can taste it for 15-20 minutes. And you better hope none gets stuck in your teeth. Oh yeah you will spit yellow for 20 minutes to trying to get the taste of your tongue, but really it isnt that bad. LOL
Mekanic
New member
brutal stuff there haha. Good info tho, I've never broken open a cap of anything I take, just read about it in other threads so was seeing if it made a difference at all.
SO, as of right now, I'm sick, general cold going around + an upper respitory deal.. my friend I work out with has strep, he's being a panzy and sitting at home havin his wife make him soup. I'm hittin the gym tonight to sweat this **** out of me hah.
But on a side note I should shave a couple extra pounds being sick
SO, as of right now, I'm sick, general cold going around + an upper respitory deal.. my friend I work out with has strep, he's being a panzy and sitting at home havin his wife make him soup. I'm hittin the gym tonight to sweat this **** out of me hah.
But on a side note I should shave a couple extra pounds being sick
Mekanic
New member
haha, true story. I'm feelin quite a bit better as of now, just went out and did some cardio earlier, then had a nap which I just woke up from. Should be good to start hitting it again tomorrow.
Mekanic
New member
Well, I just dropped my first 2 OEP. I'm pretty stim tolerant (need 3 scoops o jack3d) so I figured I'd open up with 2.
Didn't get to start yesterday cause of a toothache that was so nasty I called out of work.
Feeling the stim a bit, and feeling the thermo a bit already, I'm really impressed 20 minutes in. Bout to make my morning shake, and take all my chit, multi-fish oil-vit B- etc..
Weighed in at 183, I've been plateaued here for about a week and a half, so its a good way to start.
I'm gonna run 8 weeks OEP, 8 weeks recreate, repeat.
updates to come!
Didn't get to start yesterday cause of a toothache that was so nasty I called out of work.
Feeling the stim a bit, and feeling the thermo a bit already, I'm really impressed 20 minutes in. Bout to make my morning shake, and take all my chit, multi-fish oil-vit B- etc..
Weighed in at 183, I've been plateaued here for about a week and a half, so its a good way to start.
I'm gonna run 8 weeks OEP, 8 weeks recreate, repeat.
updates to come!
Mekanic
New member
Well I dropped it down to 1 cap in the AM, 1 in the PM haha. Still a nice stim effect, great thermo effect.
I'm on day 3, and I know this is gonna sound like BS, but I'm already noticeably slimmer, in my love handles, lower abdomen, and chest.
Unofficial weigh in has me at 180.5 ... that's 2 1/2 lb in 2 days...
Official weigh in will come in next Thursday. And its looking like my goal of having my BF down where I want it by my birthday (valentines day) is gonna be easy to reach if it continues like this.
I'm on day 3, and I know this is gonna sound like BS, but I'm already noticeably slimmer, in my love handles, lower abdomen, and chest.
Unofficial weigh in has me at 180.5 ... that's 2 1/2 lb in 2 days...
Official weigh in will come in next Thursday. And its looking like my goal of having my BF down where I want it by my birthday (valentines day) is gonna be easy to reach if it continues like this.
