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Goal is long term fitness & cycle planning.

Last log lost steam, due youngin's and TRT doc constant shift of dose, tapering.. killed my review of PRE Hexadrone.

So here we go! 2nd week of Body Best program by Sagi Kalev (#Beach Body) using dynamic intervals and giant, super, drop sets, and more... definitely pushes me 20% more than my normal workouts I've logged here = better pumps.

When kids sleep early I will still run to local gym for a traditional workout.

Diet trends will be noted, supplements, and of course the latest in non-methyl PH and with a fun TRT taper off (right after she put me on for low free T, agree getting off gear 2+ months) where I may go rouge and run HCG even if my Endo-doc won't give it to get my gonads some life and size again!

Pics and summary notes to come, I'll work on less paragraph posts as no one reads when I do that.

Might as well tag @bairygrandpa and @DemntedCowboy @Whisky now. Cowboy, you have an updated list, going try and succeed where my last erased log failed..
 
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RESERVED FOR FINAL SUMMARY OF RESEARCH!
 
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Workout plans here. I'll note where I am in the series, at 3-4 days a week this 90 day course will be more like ~120 (6-dahs a week with two little ones and a career, rough).

Speaking of Beasts, might as well tag our own @BEAST73. And @Hyde and @SkRaw85 and @Old Witch.

I'll be on the lean beast program for awhile.. huge beast after I'm lean enough.
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Current body stats last week, will update soon when I really get consistent.

Breakfast (Usually granola and skim milk, or French toast, Belgian waffles).

Lunch (Usually footlong sandwich at Subway, no cheese no mayo, veggies and meats mostly or Starbird chicken sandwich and fries)

Dinner (Basmati rice and either salmon, chicken dishes, with veggies.. other nights baked potatoes instead of rice.. pastas and other dishes too). Fairly clean dinners.

Supplements and weak points about carb and sugar intake to get lean to come.
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Goals are fat loss back to 9-10% BF and then lean gain with dry compounds. Only allow an M-Sten run once a year.

Available androgens for cycle planning (2 bottles of Enhanced Formulations 3-AD, 4 bottles of PRE Hexadrone, and liquid RAD-140, LGD-4033, TD Epistane, M-Sten from Synergy Research Labs).
 
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Tagging @RickyBlobby and @Rocket3015 for TRT Taper off and demand HCG for best chance to restore gonads talk with Endo doc..
 
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I would like to at least try it ...
 
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I'm in here brother, let's see who else will come on in
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I'm in here brother, let's see who else will come on in
@hairygrandpa @rtmilburn @SFreed @Ulfhednar @HIT4ME @wesb2387 @Tank999 @DennisTheDane @Juicedeez utz @BEAST73 @Alpha1agreda @LeanEngineer @coltonwalker @Brandinooooo @Sparkss @blueline438 @lifted67 @smith_69 @Daehlluks @FireTitan @alphagainz @ChocolateClen @justhere4comm @matt8483 @ryane87 @nostrum420 @mmorso @thebigt @Dirty Dan @Bmac63095 @TNlifting @Matthersby @BloodManor @angcd3 @habajaba @mmorso @cwages @TheMyth @lukehayd @thebigt @Oconns28 @jalfrey @bloodnthunder @jtmass @Martyfnemec @christ83189 @GrizzleB @BOSSMAN @chedapalooza @BennyMagoo79 @Brienn8989 @Tbl16 @Bman1970 @PoSiTiVeFLoW @Cgkone @LeanEngineer @AntM1564 @Newth @SouthPawSD @christ83189 @SkRaw85 @flandersguy @MrKleen73 @Whisky @Cscott622 @Hyde @bloodnthunder @Newth @love2liftkat @stacy1212 @RickyBlobby @bigbeaph @JoePaul39 @adammorrow36 @Rocket3015 @swimfan65 @Humble @Marcia
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I'm in here brother, let's see who else will come on in
@hairygrandpa @rtmilburn @SFreed @Ulfhednar @HIT4ME @wesb2387 @Tank999 @DennisTheDane @Juicedeez utz @BEAST73 @Alpha1agreda @LeanEngineer @coltonwalker @Brandinooooo @Sparkss @blueline438 @lifted67 @smith_69 @Daehlluks @FireTitan @alphagainz @ChocolateClen @justhere4comm @matt8483 @ryane87 @nostrum420 @mmorso @thebigt @Dirty Dan @Bmac63095 @TNlifting @Matthersby @BloodManor @angcd3 @habajaba @mmorso @cwages @TheMyth @lukehayd @thebigt @Oconns28 @jalfrey @bloodnthunder @jtmass @Martyfnemec @christ83189 @GrizzleB @BOSSMAN @chedapalooza @BennyMagoo79 @Brienn8989 @Tbl16 @Bman1970 @PoSiTiVeFLoW @Cgkone @LeanEngineer @AntM1564 @Newth @SouthPawSD @christ83189 @SkRaw85 @flandersguy @MrKleen73 @Whisky @Cscott622 @Hyde @bloodnthunder @Newth @love2liftkat @stacy1212 @RickyBlobby @bigbeaph @JoePaul39 @adammorrow36 @Rocket3015 @swimfan65 @Humble @Marcia
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In on this! Interested in the program I've seen a lot about it recently. Good luck bro!
 
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Glad to have you all here! @xR1pp3Rx also as this journal will reboot 3-AD and then PRE Hex research, before a fall M-Sten run with RXS Radiate (love that stuff, but can't sweat so much at work and with family) the hardocre sweat will be easier in October when fam is abroad for 2.5 months.
 
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TY and yes Im in for the carnage.
 
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TY and yes Im in for the carnage.
Well day 2 on 3-AD research for woof, my large breed pup, at 25mg.

Plan will be 25mg for a week, then 50/50/75 perhaps.

Then we'll move over to PRE Hexadrone.. probably 100mg/200/200/200.

And then a break maybe come strong with a dual 3-AD and Hex combo cycle if all goes well (25+100 upto 50+200)mg.

Gotta say I have a tub of Build Fast Products Fullblitz coming after I got schooled by @TheSolution on being out of date on Arginine nitrate options. I am currently blown away (even today) with pump from Dymatize perfect pre with 1.5g Nitrosigine... Can't wait to try the Full blitz here shortly.

If Arginine Nitrate (NO3-T) works as well as Nitrosigine, shoot that's awesome!

4-bolts from getting this pull up bar, Ceiling Mount Pull Up Bar for 8'... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SFD36IW for my home gym, then I won't hardly need to use city gym, except for variety of machines now and again. Between two sets of quick change dumbbells, a good Troy VTX bench, and a resistance band system... Hardly a need for the gym.

Today was a good back-biceps day at the city gym below:

1.5km warmup on elliptical in 10mim at resistance 8-12. THR up. Helps me with pump and keep intensity between sets.

Hammer grip lat pull down /high row - 4x sets 12-14 reps 100-110-120-130

Seated front rows, 110-120-130 lbs on pulley stack for 10-14 reps

Upright rows 2 sets 20" straight bar 30-35 lbs and 3 sets EZ curl bar, 10-12 reps 35-42-47 lbs

Seated preacher curls - 10-12 reps for pump, 3 sets, 45-55-65lbs

Seated isolation curls, 60-70-80 lbs on pulley stack 3 sets of 10 reps

Hammer Strength front high row /curls 45-55-60 lbs 3 sets of 8-12 reps

Rear Delt ) back expansions on reverse pec-flye machine.. 3 sets of 10-12 reps for 100-110-120 lbs

Trying to rest less between sets and borrow elements from body Beast as I learn more..

I think I respond to more volume and better form.
 
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Let's put this plan into action !!
 
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Let's put this plan into action !!
Body Beast "Build Shoulders" program today a few pics. Great pumps, good sweat, and helped me find a twitch muscle during warmup leftover from the seizure-fall in front left shoulder..

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3rd day on EF 3-AD, 2nd day at 50mg, all is well.

Likely to bump to 75mg daily split dosing across the day - since dose tolerance assessment is going fine.

Also would like to report, only after 3-days I notice an "on feeling" and some confidence / mild aggression (not Tren Ace crazy, but good confidence). Strength is present.

Oh ****, used the AM40 code again, 4x bottles of 3-AD and 4x bottles of Hexadrone. It's going to be a great year for non methyl PH me thinks.
 
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Did the Body Beast Build (disc) and the chest-triceps program 💪, used Fullblitz first time and good pump about 50-60% through the workout was had. Will give Nitrosigine a rest, try this Arginine nitrate and see how it goes. Good energy and focus on the Fullblitz today, first dose. Gotta remember to take my 50mg AD-3 tonight. Maybe push to 75mg ED soon for a few weeks.
 
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Did the Body Beast Build (disc) and the chest-triceps program , used Fullblitz first time and good pump about 50-60% through the workout was had. Will give Nitrosigine a rest, try this Arginine nitrate and see how it goes. Good energy and focus on the Fullblitz today, first dose. Gotta remember to take my 50mg AD-3 tonight. Maybe push to 75mg ED soon for a few weeks.
I have zero complaints with 75mg. If you can afford it, I would say that’s a good dose.
 
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I have zero complaints with 75mg. If you can afford it, I would say that’s a good dose.
Excellent, you and @SkRaw85 agree on that, so I'll move to 75mg for the next 3-4 weeks and see how the results look. Even with only 3-4 days of Body Beast per week, with 2 young'ins a job, etc.. and just some carb restrictions, I feel leaner around the mid-section already. Need to check Renpho scale tonight.
 
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Excellent, you and @SkRaw85 agree on that, so I'll move to 75mg for the next 3-4 weeks and see how the results look. Even with only 3-4 days of Body Beast per week, with 2 young'ins a job, etc.. and just some carb restrictions, I feel leaner around the mid-section already. Need to check Renpho scale tonight.
Best time to check the scale is first thing in the morning right out of bed, and after your morning piss. Evenings are not accurate, due to the natural swelling in your body. This is also why we don't fit patients with compression stockings after 10am.
 
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Best time to check the scale is first thing in the morning right out of bed, and after your morning piss. Evenings are not accurate, due to the natural swelling in your body. This is also why we don't fit patients with compression stockings after 10am.
. Great to know... Then most of my logs on this forum.. measurements we're actually pretty good, I usually aimed for a morning fasted/empty weighing.
 
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. Great to know... Then most of my logs measurements we're actually pretty good, I usually aimed for a morning fasted/empty weighing.
Morning is the best keep with it
 
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*Advanced Pre workout discussion* Shyt looks like I should be back in Camp Cellucor, looking at their NO3 Chrome and their NO3 Ultimate ingedients.

This would be like the Nitrosigine (from Dymatize perfect pre) and the Arginine Nitrate (NO3-T) from Full blitz. Did Cellucor develop the arginine nitrate (using their NO3-T) separately? Reason I ask is, they did develop the Creatine Nitrate also NO3-T patents, trademark, etc. Also, the NO3 chrome has around 1/2 dose of the NO3 Ultimate, which uses the NIH paper based 1.5g effective dose.

Notice in their NO3 Chrome / Ultimate products (way less $ without the caffeine powder in C4) they use a strong dose of both Nitrosigine and Arginine-NO3T

EDIT also for comparison now Dymatize perfect pre and Fullblitz ingedient list panels.
 

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*Advanced Pre workout discussion* Shyt looks like I should be back in Camp Cellucor, looking at their NO3 Chrome and their NO3 Ultimate ingedients.

This would be like the Nitrosigine (from Dymatize perfect pre) and the Arginine Nitrate (NO3-T) from Full blitz. Did Cellucor develop the arginine nitrate (using their NO3-T) separately? Reason I ask is, they did develop the Creatine Nitrate also NO3-T patents, trademark, etc. Also, the NO3 chrome has around 1/2 dose of the NO3 Ultimate, which uses the NIH paper based 1.5g effective dose.

Notice in their NO3 Chrome / Ultimate products (way less $ without the caffeine powder in C4) they use a strong dose of both Nitrosigine and Arginine-NO3T

EDIT also for comparison now Dymatize perfect pre and Fullblitz ingedient list panels.
Also things to Iook for clean but strong, energy / focus / pump / mind-mood boost and recovery.. with no or low creatine.
 
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im not all that impressed with nitrosigine
 
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im not all that impressed with nitrosigine
Interesting to see, I was a total Arginine non responder from older N.O. booster products, as the evidence shows it has little effect. Nitrosigine was the first I did respond to, now trying the Arginine Nitrate NO3-T in Fullblitz to see how that goes. I'm just happy to have ANY viable vasodilator option besides abusing Cialis (Tadalafil). And it seems Cellucor is hedging bets in C4 ultimate and their NO3 booster products by offering both Nitrosigine and Arginine Nitrate, as well as other useful items for NO boost or transport

Thanks for the feedback, it's getting quiet here. Need to post naked chicks or something 😂

More Body Beast 💪 beast shoulders today.

I notice these vasodilator shine in high volume reps for pump when my heart rate is up.

Also I tossed a tub of Hyde NitroX out.. only 0.5g of Nitrosigine, the NIH studies show 1.5g was the best dose and Dymatize pre uses that.. I noticed a big difference in effect.

Also, not everyone respond to Nitrosigine, the studies showed ~20% didn't seem to get the effects..
 
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Every nitrate I’ve ever used yielded significant pumps better than probably anything else.

Finaflex used to make a betaine nitrate that was dope
 
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*Advanced Pre workout discussion* Shyt looks like I should be back in Camp Cellucor, looking at their NO3 Chrome and their NO3 Ultimate ingedients.

This would be like the Nitrosigine (from Dymatize perfect pre) and the Arginine Nitrate (NO3-T) from Full blitz. Did Cellucor develop the arginine nitrate (using their NO3-T) separately? Reason I ask is, they did develop the Creatine Nitrate also NO3-T patents, trademark, etc. Also, the NO3 chrome has around 1/2 dose of the NO3 Ultimate, which uses the NIH paper based 1.5g effective dose.

Notice in their NO3 Chrome / Ultimate products (way less $ without the caffeine powder in C4) they use a strong dose of both Nitrosigine and Arginine-NO3T

EDIT also for comparison now Dymatize perfect pre and Fullblitz ingedient list panels.
I currently go back and forth between vaso/full blitz and no3 with glycerol. Also I always throw in intra carbs (karbolyn) along with eaas and sea salt.
Would have to put the vaso/full blitz at the top. Although you can always get no3 very cheap, free apparel, and shipping .
Both combos ignite a serious pump....48 oz of h20 additional
 
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Best time to check the scale is first thing in the morning right out of bed, and after your morning piss. Evenings are not accurate, due to the natural swelling in your body. This is also why we don't fit patients with compression stockings after 10am.
100% correct. Exact routine I follow. Could be 206 upon waking and 209 before bed
 
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I currently go back and forth between vaso/full blitz and no3 with glycerol. Also I always throw in intra carbs (karbolyn) along with eaas and sea salt.
Would have to put the vaso/full blitz at the top. Although you can always get no3 very cheap, free apparel, and shipping .
Both combos ignite a serious pump....48 oz of h20 additional
You're 100% right, I need to add the glycerol + H20 pump stuff here.. I've seen the hydromax glycerol type product. I don't hydrate as well as I should or even advise others (take my advise.. I'm not using it lol).

I now have 2x tubs of Fullblitz to work through and/or mix with Dymatize perfect pre so I can mix and make C4 ultimate basically. If I didnt already get MuscleTech NanoX9 (cheap Nitrosigine with other nootropics, focus non-stim) and I was going to get Cellucor NO3 chrome (cheap Arginine Nitrate) but could get Vasoblitz perhaps too as a way to get more NO3-T... as I have 4x tubs of the Dymatize perfect-pre and 2x tubs of FullBlitz need to balance to make a C4 ultimate mix it seems.

Every nitrate I’ve ever used yielded significant pumps better than probably anything else.

Finaflex used to make a betaine nitrate that was dope
Coolio - gear got me up the curve but now I need to get more advanced at basic bodybuilding, conditioning and recovery stuff like this.

Betaine nitrate, if it was a good tool - why did they stop making it (too expensive, banned, health risk)?
 
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You're 100% right, I need to add the glycerol + H20 pump stuff here.. I've seen the hydromax glycerol type product. I don't hydrate as well as I should or even advise others (take my advise.. I'm not using it lol).

I now have 2x tubs of Fullblitz to work through and/or mix with Dymatize perfect pre so I can mix and make C4 ultimate basically. If I didnt already get MuscleTech NanoX9 (cheap Nitrosigine with other nootropics, focus non-stim) and I was going to get Cellucor NO3 chrome (cheap Arginine Nitrate) but could get Vasoblitz perhaps too as a way to get more NO3-T... as I have 4x tubs of the Dymatize perfect-pre and 2x tubs of FullBlitz need to balance to make a C4 ultimate mix it seems.



Coolio - gear got me up the curve but now I need to get more advanced at basic bodybuilding, conditioning and recovery stuff like this.

Betaine nitrate, if it was a good tool - why did they stop making it (too expensive, banned, health risk)?
Idk, always wondered the same. Maybe it just didn’t sell (Max Pump).

Glycerol is big for pumps and fullness IF YOU HYDRATE PROPERLY. Few grams of that, I had a 1/4tsp of Morton lite salt (~300/300 salt potassium) in a half gallon with some intra carb. Been using some maltodextrin lately to good effect, better than Gatorade for sure. But Karbolyn is the best.

Glycergrow2 from Controlled Labs is what I use; I think we’re discontinuing it actually but it’s the only glycerol product I’ve used that doesn’t clump so idk why we are except maybe it doesn’t sell. Great stuff and even has a little salt & potassium in it.
 
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I use the good old sticky pasty clumpy glycerol by purus. Almost like glue
 
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purus is still out there?! man i hadnt seen them around in a while.
 
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purus is still out there?! man i hadnt seen them around in a while.
They were prohormone specialists. When everything got banned they didn’t really have anything to stand out IMO. They were on the edge of the wave though for a hot minute.

Buddy would come into the gym with a shaker of Muscle Marinade when we were in college, shouting about how he was about to marinate his meat
 
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Man that gives me vivid memories of LGI’s Anadraulic State GT - idk what was in that stuff really, but if you didn’t puke you were going to destroy your workout!
 
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What's good AM family, bit of one week workout pause due to house repairs and confluence of new dad craziness.
 
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Man that gives me vivid memories of LGI’s Anadraulic State GT - idk what was in that stuff really, but if you didn’t puke you were going to destroy your workout!
actually LGs anaraulic state.. stuff was almost as nasty as some of the wieder stuff from back in the day.
 

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