Comes in 60caps 20mg/cap.So what dosage you gonna run it
So will try out 40mg
Comes in 60caps 20mg/cap.So what dosage you gonna run it
You might consider trying it at 20mg first.Comes in 60caps 20mg/cap.
So will try out 40mg
Just a heads up, I've seen lots of guys start at 10mg a day. If there pills I'd get a pill cutter, $5 at wall mart. Start with 20. But I'm not saying dont go up to 40. I personally need high doses of orals for some reason, I've done m1a at 90 which most think is stupid high so I wont talk you out of bumping up doses. But I always like to find the lowest effective dose for things before I start climbing upComes in 60caps 20mg/cap.
So will try out 40mg
Will do, just meant I’m not afraid of going up to 40m. if 20mg works with no sides all keep there.You might consider trying it at 20mg first.
I have a pill cutter, but I think they are capsules. Yeah I typically respond to higher doses too.Just a heads up, I've seen lots of guys start at 10mg a day. If there pills I'd get a pill cutter, $5 at wall mart. Start with 20. But I'm not saying dont go up to 40. I personally need high doses of orals for some reason, I've done m1a at 90 which most think is stupid high so I wont talk you out of bumping up doses. But I always like to find the lowest effective dose for things before I start climbing up
How long will you run the eqWhat are your thoughts on adding EQ 500mg/week?
Yeah, wouldnt it be better off combined with deca due to this reason ...?Seems to be harsh on cholesterol and joints similar to winstrol.
I like eq but I wouldn't use it less then 12 weeks, 16 would be even better. You could front load 1500mg if that's your thing and continue with 500 if your going shorter then 16, front loading I don't personally find useful but some ppl swear by it.What are your thoughts on adding EQ 500mg/week?
In my opinion, deca is very hard to use for us cyclers, just too fkin long acting. I dont want to use sth that will produce metabolites for 3 more months and hinder recovery.Yeah, wouldnt it be better off combined with deca due to this reason ...?
I take my Omega-3’s, coq10, resveratrol and red rice yeastIn my opinion, deca is very hard to use for us cyclers, just too fkin long acting. I dont want to use sth that will produce metabolites for 3 more months and hinder recovery.
Some npp yeah
But like i said, i would be very careful when running either. Dht, c17aa... terrible for the lipids.
Take your omega 3s hahahahahhah
Nothing wrong with thatStarting to think maybe I’ll just run test E 12 weeks.
No EQ
No Deca
No trest
Add primo. Imo just test cycles are not really worth it getting shutdown. Add tbol.Starting to think maybe I’ll just run test E 12 weeks.
No EQ
No Deca
No trest
Nothing wrong with thatStarting to think maybe I’ll just run test E 12 weeks.
No EQ
No Deca
No trest
Hes using m1tAdd primo. Imo just test cycles are not really worth it getting shutdown. Add tbol.
Oh, I understood he meant an T only cycle.Nothing wrong with that
Hes using m1t
Understandable, I think he meant test as the only injectable/base.Oh, I understood he meant an T only cycle.
I might be wrong but he listed his plan with the orals, then talked about what injectable to use other then test, then said test but not the other injectables he listed. So I would assume hes going to ditch the other injectables, and only use test with the orals he played out beforeOh, I understood he meant an T only cycle.
Depends. Great gains can be made on test only.Add primo. Imo just test cycles are not really worth it getting shutdown. Add tbol.
Test E 500mg 1-12weeksI might be wrong but he listed his plan with the orals, then talked about what injectable to use other then test, then said test but not the other injectables he listed. So I would assume hes going to ditch the other injectables, and only use test with the orals he played out before
So test, primo, M1T, epistane and anavar? Or am I misunderstanding you?Add primo. Imo just test cycles are not really worth it getting shutdown. Add tbol.
No, I just meant test, primo, tbol. Imo your cycle is a bit harsh on the digestion tract and liver, I personally wouldn't run it, but if you respond ok to such amounts of orals then go ahead.So test, primo, M1T, epistane and anavar? Or am I misunderstanding you?
What’s your opinion on running NPP or masteron alongside the Test?No, I just meant test, primo, tbol. Imo your cycle is a bit harsh on the digestion tract and liver, I personally wouldn't run it, but if you respond ok to such amounts of orals then go ahead.
Imo, 19nor's are for people who bc. So I'm against it. Masteron, it's better then nothing, but it's literally the most androgenic thing you can take and if your plan is solely hypertophy, it makes little to no sense compared to other aas. Again, take primo or dhb. If you discount 19nor's and EQ, there really isn't much choice.What’s your opinion on running NPP or masteron alongside the Test?
And yes I am aware they will have complete opposite results.
The primo prices are crazy, can’t seem to find a source for them?Imo, 19nor's are for people who bc. So I'm against it. Masteron, it's better then nothing, but it's literally the most androgenic thing you can take and if your plan is solely hypertophy, it makes little to no sense compared to other aas. Again, take primo or dhb. If you discount 19nor's and EQ, there really isn't much choice.
Have you ran both?You’ll be disapointed by m1t. SD would’ve been a far superior choice when it comes to building real lean tissues. If overall size and strength was a main priority, for a competition let’s say, m1t would’ve been a great choice.
SD of course, haven’t ran m1t because I don’t see why a bodybuilder would use this drug. I’ve seen many friends, many people in my private groups run it and at the end of the day it was mostly getting big, full of water. Once all of that was gone not that much muscle was actually built. Not more than any other strong oral would.Have you ran both?
Log it then! Not enough log about it hereI’m still going to try it out and see what happens!! If it’s too harsh, I have a bottle of superdrol to switch to.
Not a bad idea!Log it then! Not enough log about it here
Yes.The primo prices are crazy, can’t seem to find a source for them?
What’s DHB?
Dihydro-boldenone?
Primo is a beautiful drug but yeah very expensive. Dhb is apparently hell in a bottle regarding pip, always wanted to try it but I can’t risk being crippled with pip in my job.The primo prices are crazy, can’t seem to find a source for them?
What’s DHB?
Dihydro-boldenone?
I second this, masteron is useless, from my experience at least.Imo, 19nor's are for people who bc. So I'm against it. Masteron, it's better then nothing, but it's literally the most androgenic thing you can take and if your plan is solely hypertophy, it makes little to no sense compared to other aas. Again, take primo or dhb. If you discount 19nor's and EQ, there really isn't much choice.
He cycles. He isn't on trt as you and math are ...Other than that i dont think you can go wrong with test, npp and dbol if you re going for all out mass.
I’m on your side about avoiding things like deca, trest and these type of compounds if recovery is a priority but npp clears your system in about 5-7 days TOPs. Plus you only need to cycle it 7-9 weeks maximum. I really can’t say that for SURE because I don’t pct but I feel like recovery from NPP must be smooth? Just discussing right now.He cycles. He isn't on trt as you and math are ...
I am not on trt.He cycles. He isn't on trt as you and math are ...
It wasn't for me and I think it isn't for most. Isn't recovery from 19nor's in general considered to be much tougher then from dht's and test derivatives? And I'm not aiming to ester length here, just the way that 19nor's shutdown is much harder then other aas. Isn't it commonly touted that using 19nor's is an express way to trt ...I’m on your side about avoiding things like deca, trest and these type of compounds if recovery is a priority but npp clears your system in about 5-7 days TOPs. Plus you only need to cycle it 7-9 weeks maximum. I really can’t say that for SURE because I don’t pct but I feel like recovery from NPP must be smooth? Just discussing right now.
Perhaps it is.It wasn't for me and I think it isn't for most. Isn't recovery from 19nor's in general considered to be much tougher then from dht's and test derivatives? And I'm not aiming to ester length here, just the way that 19nor's shutdown is much harder then other aas. Isn't it commonly touted that using 19nor's is an express way to trt ...
Yes, I lasted 3 weeks app, I think. Dose app 250. Cycle length was 8 weeks.Perhaps it is.
I guesi will find out soon.
I think it's due to progestagenic activity and higher receptor binding affinity.
@Jinsun didn't you drop npp pretty quickly due to sides? What dose were you running?
I can’t find it for less then $100 for one 10mL 100mg/mL vial.Primo is not that expensive. It's 40 - 50e 100mg/ml. Only the big mainstream ugls sell it for 70 - 80e per vial. If you look at raws, then yeah, it's a lot more expensive then other powders. But with premade vials, ugls know they wont make that much money off of it. It's more the fact that you have to have a wide arange of assortement so that buyers wont go somewhere else and buy stuff for the whole cycle there.
I'm just explaining this for those who would comment that primo for 40 - 50e is surely fake - which is not, if you know your ugl ...
What were you sides on npp?Yes, I lasted 3 weeks app, I think. Dose app 250. Cycle length was 8 weeks.
If you want my opinion I don't think it's worth it you can gain the Same with test just more water but you can harden up with proviron at the end.I can’t find it for less then $100 for one 10mL 100mg/mL vial.
Yeah I think primo is out the door for me.If you want my opinion I don't think it's worth it you can gain the Same with test just more water but you can harden up with proviron at the end.
Take this with a pinch of salt as I didn't run it but I sure ain't thrilled to go on a cycle and gain 2 lbs in 8 weeks.
I would give it a go but bear in mind that recovery may be difficult.Yeah I think primo is out the door for me.
NPP I’m still researching! Any comments?
Definitely true for the deca ester since it’ll hinder your recovery for up to 5 months since it stays in your system so freaking long. Npp is supposed to be the opposite. On paper it means recovery should be quick and easy. Is it true in real life though? I’d be lying if I said I knew the answer!It wasn't for me and I think it isn't for most. Isn't recovery from 19nor's in general considered to be much tougher then from dht's and test derivatives? And I'm not aiming to ester length here, just the way that 19nor's shutdown is much harder then other aas. Isn't it commonly touted that using 19nor's is an express way to trt ...
Feeling wise it's like dbol only better. Felt like a god on only 250 ... I couldn'y sleep on it as it really elevated my heart rate. So when it was time to sleep I was still to energetic. Seeing as you have severe insomnia, worse then me, I would advise against it. But I would advise against any hormone manipulation tbh. All aas will mess with your head and make things worse. If you can't sleep you cant live. Throwing aas in to the mix is imo playing with your life ...Yeah I think primo is out the door for me.
NPP I’m still researching! Any comments?
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