PHF days, dimethabold write by Henryv

[John Smeton]

2,17-dimethandrostenolone

Structure:

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Nomenclature:
2,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-1,4-androstadien-3-one

Synonyms:
Dimethandrostenolone, Dimethandienone

Current Clones (Brand Names):
Celtic Labs Dimethabold

Anabolic:Androgenic Ratio:
Unknown.

History:
2,17-Dimethandrostenolone was first synthesized by Syntex researchers Fred Kincl and Ralph Dorfman in 1963, though they only assayed its activity by injection. In 2014 it was released by Celtic Labs as "Dimethabold".

Structure and Function:
2,17-Dimethandrostenolone differs from methandrostenolone (dianabol) by the addition of a methyl group at carbon 2. It is likely that this will prevent aromatization of the A-ring, and affect electronic interaction with the target androgen receptor.

Testosterone, DHT, or 19-nortestosterone based? Testosterone based.
17a-methylated? Yes.
Does it aromatize? It does not aromatize.
Typically used for: Bulk, lean bulk, recomp
Typically dosed at: Unknown

This was supposed to be a stronger dbol since its dbol with 2, in front of it. It was originally injectable. Celtic labs release it in capsule form. Interesting how this seems to not aromatize, according the Henryv. Curious, if this would be similar to dbol and even boldenone, in regards to dht effecting prostate and hair?

 

[Smont]

When things are not commonly used it's way more likely it's a crap drug then a good drug.

I think this is d-drol and if i remember it's kinda, meh :/, I think @Hyde likes it for strength but I could be mixing up drugs

 

[Hyde]

When things are not commonly used it's way more likely it's a crap drug then a good drug.

I think this is d-drol and if i remember it's kinda, meh :/, I think @Hyde likes it for strength but I could be mixing up drugs

Ddrol is Mithras - Celtic was the only company I know of that ever brought this to market.

Never used it, guy logging it was getting good gains at like 40mg per day.

At the risk of sounding like a buzzkill, I’d just take 20-30mg of Dbol and call it a day unless you already had this in a stash. Not many people talked about it but it worked fine when you took enough, based off anecdotes. I think guys needed a couple bottles to go 4/5 weeks with it.

 

[Hyde]

Celtic also made another unique product called Dianadrol, and that was actually very dry and very mild - I remember doing 60-70mg of that for like 6 weeks and not too much happening.

Dimethabold (the compound this thread is about) was wetter or had some gyno potentials I believe.

 

[Smont]

Celtic also made another unique product called Dianadrol, and that was actually very dry and very mild - I remember doing 60-70mg of that for like 6 weeks and not too much happening.

Dimethabold (the compound this thread is about) was wetter or had some gyno potentials I believe.

Outside of the few that stuck, most of the stuff coming out then was crap. Basically they were looking for anything that could slip through the cracks.

 

[Hyde]

Outside of the few that stuck, most of the stuff coming out then was crap. Basically they were looking for anything that could slip through the cracks.

Celtic’s Superdiol/Celtic Mass was literally Superdrol once the diol got cleaved off in the body. 40-50mg of that stuff slapped hard as hell. So it was cool people could get SD otc again for a period - $20/bottle again even when they were closing up shop.

 

[Renew1]

Celtic’s Superdiol/Celtic Mass was literally Superdrol once the diol got cleaved off in the body. 40-50mg of that stuff slapped hard as hell. So it was cool people could get SD otc again for a period - $20/bottle again even when they were closing up shop.

They were really rolling back then.
A lot of the stuff they came out with was copied by other companies.

Their Trestobol was my first experience with Trest.
It was only 10mg per cap, but it was pretty strong.

 

[Smont]

Celtic’s Superdiol/Celtic Mass was literally Superdrol once the diol got cleaved off in the body. 40-50mg of that stuff slapped hard as hell. So it was cool people could get SD otc again for a period - $20/bottle again even when they were closing up shop.

At one point in time you could get SD for $5/bttl, right at the very end there were lots for $15 and as cheap as $5 buying x amount at a time. I remember going to place my order and being 5 or 6 days too late, less then a week. I was gonna order 100bttls

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Mithras sucked for me... not worth the toxicity that's for sure~

 

[BigGame84]

At one point in time you could get SD for $5/bttl, right at the very end there were lots for $15 and as cheap as $5 buying x amount at a time. I remember going to place my order and being 5 or 6 days too late, less then a week. I was gonna order 100bttls

Yeah, I used to buy from Lockout Supplements. Their LGI brand was legit. SD was down to $4.99.

 

[John Smeton]

Have to not use anything too androgenic for too long , except if it doesn't convert to the dht that effects prostate , hair, standard dht.

Like equipoise converts to another dht from what understand , not harmful to prostate , hair. Same with dbol , only dht that it converts to that can effect prostate, hair is methyl one dht, and dbol converts that at a very small amount. That's why dbol is quite safe for prostate and hair. Since the only difference of this and dbol is the 2, in front of the 17 is why curious about dimethabold, as it is dimethylated dbol, it appears

Although , superdrol is just methyl masteron , and masteron is slightly androgenic, not much, like some people rave on about, of course dose dependent. Superdrol androgenic rating is super low

whats the difference of 2, and 2a, in front of the 17 ?

 

[Hyde]

Have to not use anything too androgenic for too long , except if it doesn't convert to the dht that effects prostate , hair, standard dht.

Like equipoise converts to another dht from what understand , not harmful to prostate , hair. Same with dbol , only dht that it converts to that can effect prostate, hair is methyl one dht, and dbol converts that at a very small amount. That's why dbol is quite safe for prostate and hair. Since the only difference of this and dbol is the 2, in front of the 17 is why curious about dimethabold, as it is dimethylated dbol, it appears

Although , superdrol is just methyl masteron , and masteron is slightly androgenic, not much, like some people rave on about, of course dose dependent. Superdrol androgenic rating is super low

whats the difference of 2, and 2a, in front of the 17 ?

I can’t tell you the chemical difference, but on a real-life level, per milligram, Superdrol is less androgenic than Anavar even.

It is IDEAL in women for something like a 3-4 week run, provided you can get a preparation with low enough dose, like an injectable preparation administered with a slinpin. A woman can make significant gains on 2-5mg of Superdrol daily. 10mg solo per day is a VERY advanced female dose from an anabolic perspective, yet extremely mild on sides, beyond the typical lethargy and appetite hit Superdrol can yield. I’m speaking from real world experience here too, after hearing about this from others.

And 10mg is strong enough for a man typically, as part of a larger run.

 

[jim2509]

This thread brought back many memories of those days when Celtic released those products and that forum. I remember keenly being on their all the time to see if any of the products were the 'golden ticket' of good results with barely any sides. I still remember getting the email from the wife of the owner (BA) that he had passed away suddenly. Was quite a community back then around prohormones.

 

[John Smeton]

Sure was. Was a member there . Sam Kennedy , screenname Sammoken passed away in 2010, twas tragic. Has a sweet girlfriend as well. We talked after Sam's death on fb. Not sure if were still friends or if even remember her name. Another member died that helped me out a lot a few years

Lots of good information on there. Had an ask Patrick Arnold secton, as did AM later on around 2017 or so. Pure oils was first expirience besides Doctor scripted trt, that felt safe at the time, bc it was legal , same with ph's up untill that point. The whole forum and its posts are gone , if someone wanted to search, nada

Can not find any information on 2,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-1,4-androstadien-3-one . If anyone can track down the reference for Kincl & Dorfman (1963) please post it in here or message me. Couldnt find it online
Am thinking it would not convert to standard dht that causes prostate to enlarge and hairloss, similar to metandienone, and boldenone, since it is similar in structure

 

[Hyde]

Sure was. Was a member there . Sam Kennedy , screenname Sammoken passed away in 2010, twas tragic. Has a sweet girlfriend as well. We talked after Sam's death on fb. Not sure if were still friends or if even remember her name. Another member died that helped me out a lot a few years

Lots of good information on there. Had an ask Patrick Arnold secton, as did AM later on around 2017 or so. Pure oils was first expirience besides Doctor scripted trt, that felt safe at the time, bc it was legal , same with ph's up untill that point. The whole forum and its posts are gone , if someone wanted to search, nada

Can not find any information on 2,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-1,4-androstadien-3-one . If anyone can track down the reference for Kincl & Dorfman (1963) please post it in here or message me. Couldnt find it online
Am thinking it would not convert to standard dht that causes prostate to enlarge and hairloss, similar to metandienone, and boldenone, since it is similar in structure

Why not just take EQ? You can find ways to supplement your E2 without really raising DHT, if you find boldenone is crashing that. Oral DHEA, or actual estradiol transdermal.

I don’t think it’s super useful because it’s just snapshots and difficult to navigate (and very slow), but the way back machine site has archived copies of the internet at different times. You can probably see some history of that forum there, at least some glimpses anyway.

 

[Renew1]

Why not just take EQ? You can find ways to supplement your E2 without really raising DHT, if you find boldenone is crashing that. Oral DHEA, or actual estradiol transdermal.

I don’t think it’s super useful because it’s just snapshots and difficult to navigate (and very slow), but the way back machine site has archived copies of the internet at different times. You can probably see some history of that forum there, at least some glimpses anyway.

Yep, I've looked back at snippets of it at times.

 

[jim2509]

Sure was. Was a member there . Sam Kennedy , screenname Sammoken passed away in 2010, twas tragic. Has a sweet girlfriend as well. We talked after Sam's death on fb. Not sure if were still friends or if even remember her name. Another member died that helped me out a lot a few years

Lots of good information on there. Had an ask Patrick Arnold secton, as did AM later on around 2017 or so. Pure oils was first expirience besides Doctor scripted trt, that felt safe at the time, bc it was legal , same with ph's up untill that point. The whole forum and its posts are gone , if someone wanted to search, nada

Can not find any information on 2,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-1,4-androstadien-3-one . If anyone can track down the reference for Kincl & Dorfman (1963) please post it in here or message me. Couldnt find it online
Am thinking it would not convert to standard dht that causes prostate to enlarge and hairloss, similar to metandienone, and boldenone, since it is similar in structure

Ha yeah that Patrick Arnold section was amazing. Great that alot of us ended up here from those days.

 

[lanky]

Celtic also made another unique product called Dianadrol, and that was actually very dry and very mild - I remember doing 60-70mg of that for like 6 weeks and not too much happening.

Dimethabold (the compound this thread is about) was wetter or had some gyno potentials I believe.

i use a few bottles of dianadrol from celtic, was a 3oxime version of dianabol i believe. yes it was very mild, i felt it to be more of an antiglucocorticoid mechanism of action and had a feeling similar to B-AET in relation to slight increase in muscle fullness but that was about it. i did enjoy it

 

[lanky]

lets not forget celtic dreams, the allopregnanolone and pregnenolone cyclodextrin nasal spray that had GABAergic properties and calmed you down before bed and gave you a "floaty" sensation within 15 minutes, similar to a benzo, only downside was your nose was crusted with dried cyclodextrin in the morning. again a product that was 10 years ahead of its time

 

[Renew1]

lets not forget celtic dreams, the allopregnanolone and pregnenolone cyclodextrin nasal spray that had GABAergic properties and calmed you down before bed and gave you a "floaty" sensation within 15 minutes, similar to a benzo, only downside was your nose was crusted with dried cyclodextrin in the morning. again a product that was 10 years ahead of its time

I enjoyed and appreciated Many Celtic products.
But that one had zero effects on me.

 

[BigGame84]

I enjoyed Mestebol.

I still have a good amount left of Trestobol, Dimethabold, CeltiTren, Mestebol, Mentabolan, and some others

 

[WickedWarlock]

I enjoyed Mestebol.

I still have a good amount left of Trestobol, Dimethabold, CeltiTren, Mestebol, Mentabolan, and some others

Always wanted to try mestebol. Similarity to other proviron of my memory serves me well. Never got to try the trendione

 

[lanky]

I enjoyed Mestebol.

I still have a good amount left of Trestobol, Dimethabold, CeltiTren, Mestebol, Mentabolan, and some others

mentabolin did nothing for me, i chewed those pills by a half dozen at a time(came in the foil small ziplock bag)

 

[lanky]

i did like the protobol a little bit, nice increase in pumps and dryness, gave me some kidney pain and night sweats if i took it before bed from what i can remember

 

[Renew1]

mentabolin did nothing for me, i chewed those pills by a half dozen at a time(came in the foil small ziplock bag)

That particular compound was one of the Strongest FEELING compounds that I've ever used. Sadly, it didn't agree with my body chemistry.
But for some guys (more than a few) it was their Favorite PW compound ever.
.... And I could understand why.
Shortly after taking it, I could almost immediately feel it, in a very strong way.
It made me Very edgy. ... And it also attacked my Estrogen receptors pretty viciously.

I was disappointed that I couldn't use it.

 

[lanky]

That particular compound was one of the Strongest FEELING compounds that I've ever used. Sadly, it didn't agree with my body chemistry.
But for some guys (more than a few) it was their Favorite PW compound ever.
.... And I could understand why.
Shortly after taking it, I could almost immediately feel it, in a very strong way.
It made me Very edgy. ... And it also attacked my Estrogen receptors pretty viciously.

I was disappointed that I couldn't use it.

maybe i got a bad batch, who knows, i think one day i took around 18 tablets and nothing

 

[Renew1]

maybe i got a bad batch, who knows, i think one day i took around 18 tablets and nothing

Could be....
It could even be a body chemistry thing.

 

[kid amnesiac]

That particular compound was one of the Strongest FEELING compounds that I've ever used. Sadly, it didn't agree with my body chemistry.
But for some guys (more than a few) it was their Favorite PW compound ever.
.... And I could understand why.
Shortly after taking it, I could almost immediately feel it, in a very strong way.
It made me Very edgy. ... And it also attacked my Estrogen receptors pretty viciously.

I was disappointed that I couldn't use it.

Was amazing. Took pre-workout and felt like an absolute monster … those were the days

 

[Renew1]

Was amazing. Took pre-workout and felt like an absolute monster … those were the days

Yeah man. ... I was Really disappointed that I couldn't use it.

 

[John Smeton]

i did like the protobol a little bit, nice increase in pumps and dryness, gave me some kidney pain and night sweats if i took it before bed from what i can remember

They are either are black and red capsules , or orange. Have got both. Originally was called protodrol. According to Patrick Arnold, when a writeup came out for protodrol, it doesn't put stress on liver like other methylated compounds

Then, orange capsules. Do you know if orange capsules are protobol, or the red and black capsules?

Nevermind ,not at home. I think I could have them in the correct bottles

 

[lanky]

They are either are black and red capsules , or orange. Have got both. Originally was called protodrol. According to Patrick Arnold, when a writeup came out for protodrol, it doesn't put stress on liver like other methylated compounds

Then, orange capsules. Do you know if orange capsules are protobol, or the red and black capsules?

Nevermind ,not at home. I think I could have them in the correct bottles

i think they were red capsules but i am not sure now

 

[John Smeton]

i think they were red capsules but i am not sure now

Nope, back home, Celtic labs Protobol are white capsules. Got some red and blacks ,and oranges, in another bottle

the main marketing point of Protodrol wasn't its anabolic or androgenic potential, it was the promise of being the only 17a-methyl to be liver safe, in high doses in rats

Stocked up on till got some Iforce and another brand capsules, hardrock, rockhard, idk the name, stocked up on a lockout supplements . Used it back when first came out, solo, 2010, getting ready for competition, really seem to like it. Feel its similar to anavar, with var being stronger mg for mg . Seventy five mgs seems to be the sweet spot, in a cycle, solo or other wise, with not excessive androgenic effects

 

[BigGame84]

Nope, back home, Celtic labs Protobol are white capsules. Got some red and blacks ,and oranges, in another bottle

the main marketing point of Protodrol wasn't its anabolic or androgenic potential, it was the promise of being the only 17a-methyl to be liver safe, in high doses in rats

Stocked up on till got some Iforce and another brand capsules, hardrock, rockhard, idk the name, stocked up on a lockout supplements . Used it back when first came out, solo, 2010, getting ready for competition, really seem to like it. Feel its similar to anavar, with var being stronger mg for mg . Seventy five mgs seems to be the sweet spot, in a cycle, solo or other wise, with not excessive androgenic effects

I think Patrick Arnold was the one who came up with Protodrol. And yes, I think it was originally sold by iForce.

 

[MikeDug535]

At one point in time you could get SD for $5/bttl, right at the very end there were lots for $15 and as cheap as $5 buying x amount at a time. I remember going to place my order and being 5 or 6 days too late, less then a week. I was gonna order 100bttls

Superdrol was unbelievable had me strong af but raging it definitely worked Is there anything out now that is comparable? Seems like nothing is as strong and effective as Superdrol (2007 version)

 

[Beau]

I enjoyed Mestebol.

I still have a good amount left of Trestobol, Dimethabold, CeltiTren, Mestebol, Mentabolan, and some others

I have a stockpile of Mestebol.

 

[Smont]

Superdrol was unbelievable had me strong af but raging it definitely worked Is there anything out now that is comparable? Seems like nothing is as strong and effective as Superdrol (2007)

Ya, superdrol is just as good as superdrol lol

 

[Smont]

SD is the fastest working steroid I can think of, nothing makes changes in 3 weeks faster then SD, Dbol might add more weight but the SD weight looks like muscle. The catch is its not. It massively enhances your ability to store glycogen in the muscles so it's definitely a cosmetic drug that also looks like you lost gains as fast as they came. You basically cant run superdrol long enough to build actual tissue, i guess someone might be able to tollerate 30-50mg SD for 8 weeks but it would be foolish. Building actual muscle takes time and all steroids work at similar rates. You can still find SD, and other designer steroids online if you look hard enough. Msten and dmz are probably the easiest to find and they are similar to SD