On TRT, persistent libido issues and weird finding

[ironranger]

thanks seriously considering the 25mg eod...appreciate it.

Give it a go and report back. Hope it works for you like it did for me

 

[CroLifter]

I feel the need to report that for me at least, 10mg of nolvadex seems better f or recovery than 25mg clomid. I mean i run both in pct

But... Last pct first 10 days was clomid only. Balls started to shrink following the hcg blast and i felt that lethargy associated with post cycle period. Upon like 5 days following the start of nolva Lethargy started clearing up and i was feeling better, balls dropped.

Now everybody says clomid is better, maybe its the synergy between two in my case, but even during this current pct, i am 10 days in, nolva 10 clomid 25 from the beginning, i dont feel that crash or lethargy whatsoever.

Oh btw last pct 3 weeks in, that means after 3 weeks of clomid and 10 days of nolva test was 771 ng/dl.

 

[ohiostate2827]

Maybe consider pt 141..

 

[CroLifter]

Maybe consider pt 141..

Doesnt help, i tried.

I simply have low desire 95% of the time. I need some mechanical stimulation.
The sight of the female body is not enough anymore for my old a$$ to get an erection i guess we all reach that point sooner or later.
The problem was I would finish too quickly due to stroking it to get it up.

Anyway, I solved the problem completely using dapoxetine. Orgasms suck but i can at least have a normal intercourse

 

[2muchchicken]

I’m on a small cycle of 375mg a week Testoviron. Blood work is good, very high test, estrogen and other markers in range. And I still have no libido/desire. I put it down to being very low body fat and murdering my self in the gym everyday. Honestly it’s good to not be distracted by women..

 

[Smont]

I’m on a small cycle of 375mg a week Testoviron. Blood work is good, very high test, estrogen and other markers in range. And I still have no libido/desire. I put it down to being very low body fat and murdering my self in the gym everyday. Honestly it’s good to not be distracted by women..

It's also not good to have body fat so low that it negatively effects your hormones. At least not for any extended period of time, your avatar looks like your probably 7-8% and very dry. If your natural, single digit bf and eating less then 60gm fat a day your probably going to run into hormone issues. On testosterone you don't need fat for hormones but you still need some efa's, not much tho. What did your dhea and pregnolone levels look like?

 

[ohiostate2827]

Looked at pregnenolone or progesterone lvls at all?

 

[ohiostate2827]

Iron lvls can mess up libido too..often overlooked by drs

 

[DR@C0M@CH1N3]

Sometimes lower DHT levels can mess up libido. Injecting test doesn’t really boost the DHT levels, as high as Test Gel. Something about the way the body absorbs Test Gel. Most of us prefer injecting Test, so adding a DHT derived compound like Anavar would increase your libido. You wouldn’t have to use large doses, just enough to bump your level. Someone earlier on this thread posted how Anavar increased his sex drive, that’s why.

 

[CroLifter]

Since thus thread seems to be revived, I thought why not follow.
It has been a year and I have been off for the duration, aside from short Anavar blast.

I have tested 3x and it was consistently 750-800 ng/dl total nad 17-19 ng/dl free (calculated). SHBG fluctuated between 25 and 34 nmol/l. This morning I received the latest results.

Libido is a hit and miss. I do rely on Viagra often and it takes care of business (don't respond to cialis for some reason). But overall it's not that horrible, better than on testosterone, not as good as on test+hcg initially.

I do mess with clomid and aromasin from time to time. Nothing crazy, 12.5mg clomid 3x week and 6,25mg aromasin 2x per week.

Test boosters I tried activate xtreme and m test. Activate extreme seemed to provide libido and mood boost, while m test legit increases workout performance. Like a little test, srs. Aggression and stamina is much higher! But it completely kills libido. Hence I have half a bottle in the drawer.

*I would like to give low dose test+ masteron + hcg (nothing crazy, 150ish a week plus 700 iu hcg) another go, and while I know that at first libido would be much better, I am afraid after few weeks it would be back to below baseline, as is usually the case.*

***So not really sure whether to proceed with it, or stay completely off and maybe proceed with an old 12.5mg 3x week clomid/6.25mg 2x per week aromasin which had me feeling good (probably a little boost but not enough clomid so that zuclomiphene builds up)***

***Currently leaning towards the 2nd option, staying natty. And now that I am older and wiser (25) I realize I either stay off or go on hrt indefinitely, doesn't make sense any other way.***


There is another component to it. Arousal. While libido can be there, the arousal during the act itself can be missing. We all know (from the studies) testosterone increases during states of arousal, and that cannot happen on trt as HPTA is shut down. Some guys report flat libido, flat moods in general. I think in my case there is something to it. But still I need adequate T levels.

All in all, best libido ever was exactly 2 years ago on just 6.25mg aromasin 2x per week and 1 cap inhibit p daily. And that was after having done 2 cycles. Effed it up by going on cycle again after that...



PS: One more thing. When off (like now), j can actually feel mood and libido boosts from working out hard, and even occasionally when I am with my girl (previous girlfriend I had I was on exogenous T and thing that bugged me I couldn't feel aroused when kissing, etc.).
That is lacking when on exogenous T. Hence my argument that these mini-highs tied to s*xy time and having working HPTA, and ups and downs are actually beneficial .