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Hello, everyone. Mitradopa, which was going to be renamed Mitradorphin, will actually be renamed Endorphain. I always liked the original Vicaine label, so I decided to bring it back to life. I will be releasing Endorphain, along with Endorphain pm, shortly afterward. If anyone was a fan of Vicaine, you might want to give this a shot. You won't be disappointed. Of course, I will be looking for loggers as soon as its released. :)

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First time ever I'll volunteer. Lol Loved vicaine and use Kratom all the time. Never logged anything but seems simple plus in on here everyday anyway.
 
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Looks solid! I'd be down for logging a sample of the 2 you mentioned. With so much stress currently, I feel the PM one would be ideal. Tough to find enough hours in the day, but an honest quick and detailed run down of a dose or two would be feasible.
 
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I am a big fan of Methyl-Blue at 5 caps pre-workout. I assume this will be a different feeling but still be effective for taking pre-workout?
 
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I am a big fan of Methyl-Blue at 5 caps pre-workout. I assume this will be a different feeling but still be effective for taking pre-workout?
Yep!
 
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Just checked the store page, and if I understand correctly 12-11-23 is estimated date of release. I guess we’ll have to wait a bit .
 
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@Mike Arnold how would you compare the feels of this compared to MitraDopa? I am assuming it would feel similar.
 
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@Mike Arnold how would you compare the feels of this compared to MitraDopa? I am assuming it would feel similar.
Essentially the same, but moderately stronger.
 
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Just checked the store page, and if I understand correctly 12-11-23 is estimated date of release. I guess we’ll have to wait a bit .
At this point, probably close to January.
 
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I wouldn't mind getting an update on Plasmatix-PE50 too. I've been looking forward to trying that.
 
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Sounds like a good one to try for sure!
 
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Any update on when this will be out?
My manufacturer is now telling by the end of the month. So, that probably means mid-February. I am beyond ready for this stuff to drop. I think it will be a very popular product.
 
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Is this Kratom? I cannot read the label on mobile
 
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I don't know if it's frowned upon for me to stick my name in the hat lol, but im definately Interested in the pm version When the time comes....😁
 
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Do you happen to know the label of this one? Hopefully it’s a strong dose of kava!
I believe it did have kava. There is a thread on it somewhere. My bottle didn’t even have a label
 
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It's been an absolute disaster getting these products made; beyond want I can explain. In addition to the non-stop headaches an constant excuses, I've also been screwed more than once. Elrock knows a bit about it. He can confirm.

At this point, all I am going to say is that these products are still supposed to be made, which is good news...because at one point not long ago, I was told they weren't going to be made...after I already paid for the product, purchased the labels, paid to ship multiple costly ingredients with $100+ insurance...and waited for many, many months just to set a production date. Even after I was told they would still be made, I still sustained a $500 loss that was 100% someone else's fault. Was an apology given...even a small one? Nope. Nothing at all. I was basically told "oh well".

That's as far as I'm going to go with this, but I will end by saying that both products are still supposed to be made. :)
 
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It's been an absolute disaster getting these products made; beyond want I can explain. In addition to the non-stop headaches an constant excuses, I've also been screwed more than once. Elrock knows a bit about it. He can confirm.

At this point, all I am going to say is that these products are still supposed to be made, which is good news...because at one point not long ago, I was told they weren't going to be made...after I already paid for the product, purchased the labels, paid to ship multiple costly ingredients with $100+ insurance...and waited for many, many months just to set a production date. Even after I was told they would still be made, I still sustained a $500 loss that was 100% someone else's fault. Was an apology given...even a small one? Nope. Nothing at all. I was basically told "oh well".

That's as far as I'm going to go with this, but I will end by saying that both products are still supposed to be made. :)
Sorry to hear of all the troubles Mike, hopefully everything works out with this product and eventually it will get made.
 
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Happy to hear they are being made. Myself and many others would be happy to cover the additional cost
 
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bummed for you to have to endure these setbacks - it unfortunately seems to be the norm in this industry. having said that, i'll state once again, I sincerely appreciate the fact that you don't choose to run pre-sales and pass this pain onto the consumers. these forums tell the stories of choosing the opposing tactic, and it's just a terrible customer experience. speaking from experience, i've cut bait with companies who've chosen the latter.

let us know if/how we can potentially help alleviate the suck. you've been great to us over the years, I think I speak for others when I say we'd be happy to try to figure out a solution if it means realizing new products into our world vs. not.

for me, seriously pumped for the pump
 
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bummed for you to have to endure these setbacks - it unfortunately seems to be the norm in this industry. having said that, i'll state once again, I sincerely appreciate the fact that you don't choose to run pre-sales and pass this pain onto the consumers. these forums tell the stories of choosing the opposing tactic, and it's just a terrible customer experience. speaking from experience, i've cut bait with companies who've chosen the latter.

let us know if/how we can potentially help alleviate the suck. you've been great to us over the years, I think I speak for others when I say we'd be happy to try to figure out a solution if it means realizing new products into our world vs. not.

for me, seriously pumped for the pump
Thank you. I agree. Presales can be disastrous for all involved. Until I have the products in-hand, I won't put them up for sale. At this point we're probably 3 weeks out. :)
 

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