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Need to choose:Powerfull or Symmetry

unitas27

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Ok Boys,
Im running out of Powerfull soon, so I need to chose which to buy: Powerfull or Symmetry. I don't have the money for both so I'm hoping to get some opinions on what to get. I have not tried Symmetry yet, but I do like Powerfull so far as part of my PCT.

*I am also taking 6 caps of cissus each day.
1 cap Rebound Reloaded @night
Activate 4 caps/day
Toremifene (SERM) 60 mg/day
REM Sleep Aid 4 caps/night


Anyone's feedback is much appreciated!
 
Of the two, I seem to get more noticable benefit from Powerfull. Stacked with Activate and DHEA..look out!
 
Rage (SoCal) said:
That sounds like a solid enough stack, how's it working out for you?

Great so far. Best PCT I've had yet (4th PCT). I actually feel stronger than I did on my Tren/Test cycle with more stamina in the gym.

I think the Powerfull makes a big difference, I feel better, it seems to act as a anti-depressant and besides that, I get a great pump at the gym when I take 4 pre-workout.

Libido is on a level that I haven't felt in a long time (like a 17 year old horny kid). I really dont see ATD being used as much once Rebound Reloaded is released. RR is good stuff.

The REM sleep aid helps me a lot. I used to wake up a couple times during the night, but I have been able to pass out without waking up all the time. I have some weird-ass dreams though.

Adding DHEA sounds like a great idea, I have a bottle of that and 2 bottles on Anagen I may add later this week.
 
bioman said:
Of the two, I seem to get more noticable benefit from Powerfull. Stacked with Activate and DHEA..look out!

How much DHEA Bioman, 100mg/day? I am thinking off adding this. Thanks bro.
 
For PCT start at 200 mg and taper down by 50 every week. You can play around with how you want to taper, but that's how I do it.
 
My mouth is watering over taking Powerfull, DHEA, and Rebound Reloaded for my PCT.

:woohoo:
 
Hate to do this but I think it's mildly on topic. If I got a bottle of penetrate and added 6 grams of dhea and 2 grams of androstenentrione then how much would I need to pump of to get 200mgs?


BTW, I notice the same thing from powerfull. I get the most intense workouts on the stuff and my recovery time between sets is AMAZING, especially compared to when I'm on certain cycles where it's nowhere near as good. Took 4 before I lifted yesterday along with some exceed and the pumps I got from working forearms was terriffying?! No **** I thought something was wrong for a a few minutes, but it went away eventually. Also my wood has been more like stone lately, sorry for the visual.
 
It's 240 mL - but 248 with the powder added.
So, 6000/248 = 24.2 mg/mL DHEA
2000/248 = 8.1 mg/mL 6-oxo

So, 8 mL would give you 200 mgs. DHEA.

I'd go get an oral syringe that is good for 10 mL and withdraw from that (more accurate than pumping it).
Or, you could pump into the syringe (assuming it's wide enough).
 
Yeah, Powerfull wasn't doing much in the libido department during PCT until I added DHEA. Then after a wweek or two of this, I added activate..actually my own mix of CNW's nettle and Avena at 1:1. A day or two of that and POW, I am back.

It probably made a difference as to how and when I stacked them in, but all in all it is a good combo IMO.
 
wideguy said:
Hate to do this but I think it's mildly on topic. If I got a bottle of penetrate and added 6 grams of dhea and 2 grams of androstenentrione then how much would I need to pump of to get 200mgs?


BTW, I notice the same thing from powerfull. I get the most intense workouts on the stuff and my recovery time between sets is AMAZING, especially compared to when I'm on certain cycles where it's nowhere near as good. Took 4 before I lifted yesterday along with some exceed and the pumps I got from working forearms was terriffying?! No **** I thought something was wrong for a a few minutes, but it went away eventually. Also my wood has been more like stone lately, sorry for the visual.

To my knowledge, There is not a product in the world that gives intra set recovery like powerfull..Amazing is correct!
 
bioman said:
Yeah, Powerfull wasn't doing much in the libido department during post cycle therapy until I added DHEA. Then after a wweek or two of this, I added activate..actually my own mix of CNW's nettle and Avena at 1:1. A day or two of that and POW, I am back.

It probably made a difference as to how and when I stacked them in, but all in all it is a good combo IMO.

how much active avenosides in your arsenal per day?
 
I think Custom's is at 5%. The 1:1 ratio of avena to nettle is capped in OOO caps so I would guess about 700 mg for each, roughly. I'm taking 1pill, 3-4 X per day and feeling gooood.

I just ended the Powerful/DHEA yesterday because I want to see what nettle can do on it's own. I'm using it, pGH and Custom's new GEE powder and Beta thermogenic on a so-so cutting diet to shave off some fat and spare muscle prior to vacation next week.

Carribbean here I come!
 
bioman said:
I think Custom's is at 5%. The 1:1 ratio of avena to nettle is capped in OOO caps so I would guess about 700 mg for each, roughly. I'm taking 1pill, 3-4 X per day and feeling gooood.

I just ended the Powerful/DHEA yesterday because I want to see what nettle can do on it's own. I'm using it, pGH and Custom's new GEE powder and Beta thermogenic on a so-so cutting diet to shave off some fat and spare muscle prior to vacation next week.

Carribbean here I come!

We may soon release a 95% avenoside product..maybe?
 
Oh..now that would be the mack-daddy mix...95% Avena, 95% Nettle, and Powerfull in a 1:1:1 ratio.
 
bioman said:
Oh..now that would be the mack-daddy mix...95% Avena, 95% Nettle, and Powerfull in a 1:1:1 ratio.

We have something cooking that does not involve nettle nor PowerFULL that could be shocking, And beta test will happen in about 3 weeks.

stay tuned..
 
Me too, I can't wait!
 
USP you said the intra-set recovery is shocking how does this compare to CEE? When i'm on CEE my recovery between sets is just ludacris like 30 seconds and i'm fresh, i love it. I'm going to try Powerfull anyway just wondering, lol.
 
Well I'm not usp but I'd say that using CEE with powerfull is that way to go. The pumps are literally on par with what one would expect from AAS (or so I'm told). You'll see that soon for yourself though if you get some ;-)
 
CHAPS said:
USP you said the intra-set recovery is shocking how does this compare to CEE? When i'm on CEE my recovery between sets is just ludacris like 30 seconds and i'm fresh, i love it. I'm going to try Powerfull anyway just wondering, lol.

ludacris will just becomes ridiculously ludacris:jaw:
 
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