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I started to mention Xtreme Performance Gels Ursa-Gel in my initial post, but it really just depends on goals. I think it and Recomp20 are a good recomp stack, but I'm like you in that there's no stack that excites me more than Anabolic Effect and Anabolic XT together.
Yeah i would do base of Anabolic XT + Anabolic Effect for 12-16weeks.
Thank you for clarifying.
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No need to cycle .. I know people who are over a yr taking it daily
training without a diet is a waste of time, everyone knows thatInvest in your diet/eat more.
Count your macros like you count your money in your wallet!
You can take creatine at any time you want, doesn't need to be after a workout only.
I highly, highly advise you to invest in your diet plan, no natural supplement will help you gain as your diet.
After you done that (years later), you can consider sarms and aas, then we can talk.
Best suggestion you will ever get
I can assure you there are so many people who would hop on aas/sarms, without even knowing the basics in the gym and their natural potential maxed, and their nutrition being 0. I'm not talking about you, don't get me wrong.
You can use both Anabolic XT and Anabolic Effect for as long as you would like to.
I don't think that he is diminishing the importance of diet at all.
Epiandro is hormonal and the other products are not. Big difference.
So what’s better?
If you don’t care about hormonal vs non hormonal
Thank you sir!!
I get what you’re saying, but I disagree. Natural products have gotten pretty “creative” for lack of a better word. They take advantage of many more pathways than AAS will. Sure, it won’t be as strong, but you sure as hell can get results from natural products.
Hormonal every day, but it means it will shut your natural testosterone production down to a certain degree. Possibly very little and possibly completely and for life - even if you do a proper post cycle therapy with a SERM and HCG.
Probably because that would be stupid. There’s a million variables. If you have great genetics, perfect diet, and perfect training, you could gain 20 pounds pretty quick. So many people don’t eat enough and don’t gain any weight. Some people eat a lot but don’t train hard enough and just get fat.
My personal line of thinking or rationale typically lines up with the idea that these products help maximize your efficiency and results and fill in the gaps of possible limiters.
I prefer to just run things for awhile then switch to something else based on goals and run that for awhile then go back and forth. There isn’t a specific right answer. I don’t think you necessarily have to stop with everything, but I do like to take breaks from nearly everything at certain points just to not build a mental dependency on any one thing and to help re-evaluate how things help over time.
Considering I’ve done prohormones in the past, and sarms no it doesn’t matter to me now.
That is a hard call there because all three are great options.
I agree in that its always important to make the distinction to make sure that a person knows that Epiandro is hormonal; and I think some people on here hate me for how much I talk about people underestimating the risks associated with many ph's and sarm's, but I think that shutdown with Epiandro is extremely rare (if ever) and that it can be tackled fine with simple things - my personal PCT for an Epiandro cycle is my daily use test regimen anyway of M-Test, Optimize-T, & Inhibit-E.
I don't think you're going to have to worry about shutdown with Epiandro anyway. If there is any at all, it would be mild; my personal PCT for Epiandro would be what I take daily anyway (M-Test, Optimize-T, Inhibit-E).
When using natural supplements, there is really no reason to take a 12 week break with nothing. When you hear the analogy of taking nothing for x amount of weeks, that is being said for hormonal based things, and it isn't meaning to not take supplements for the off period, its meaning not to take other hormonal supplements for the off period. So it doesn't apply to your case.
What about adding Xgels pre workout to the AXT+AE stack? Still beneficial here?
X-Gels would make for a great addition to Anabolic Effect and Anabolic XT.
X gels are always the right answer - if your joints can take them
EPI Catichen at 600mgs or more will be very beneficial as a preworkout ingredient since it decreases your myostatin for as long as it’s in your blood which improves strength and endurance heavily (great for muscle growth too)
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