Mood changes as you have got older?

bell1986

bell1986

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I'm heading for 40.

All through my 20's and early 30's I was always upbeat and happy. I did have anxiety issues but I never let it plague me.

I've noticed as I'm aging that my mood is seriously going south? I was in a toxic job for 4 years recently and at the end their my body was so beaten up that I quit. I was walking/working 30k+ steps everyday. It was an early start job also (6am. Had to waken at 4.30am). We also started a new supervisor and she was hell. Wanting more and more out of us. Bare in mind the company were paying the lowest minimum wage offered here in the UK. I am financially fine so I just woke up one day and says.. I'm finished with them. That was 5 weeks ago. They have phoned me numerous times to return but I've said no. I was a hard worker and jobs were being pushed my way constantly because I always would make sure the standard of finish was high. Good for them but not for me. The endless phone calls also tells me just how hard I actually did work for them.

My plan was to take 2 full months off. I would just spend time with friends/family. I would get back full swing into my training. I had dropped my training to 2 days per week because I was always home late and exhausted. I still tried to fit 2 full body sessions in a week though. I had lost alot of weight aswell so I've spent this 5 weeks in a serious surplus. My sleep still isn't incredible but it's 10x better than when I was in that job. I average 6-7 hours a night.

I am exercising daily. I also cycle alot.

I'm on TRT. 120mg a week and my levels sit at 1100. I keep my e2 around 40. So my hormones are good.

I am still feeling fairly low? Not sure why it is?

Have any of you guys hit a rut and ever discovered the cause? It honestly feels like a low dopamine sort of state. I've had a look online at some supplements that maybe can increase my dopamine levels?

Another addition I've added recently is cold water therapy. I bought a plunge and keep it at around 10c (50f). It's early days for this though.

If anyone did hit a random low. What was your cause?

Anything worth looking into?

I've still got a few weeks before I start looking for new employment. I won't be taking another job like I had. The work environment was insanely toxic.

Thanks
 
I am sorry to hear about your hardships! I am actually almost hitting 50 and actually 10 years ago I was at my peak of weight training. But I pushed myself with strong PWOs and then life was really hard with lots of moves in between countries..

I am afraid there is no magic quick fix and everybody being exhausted for different kind of reasons also have their unique bodychemistry.

Most often I think it is our own mind and likes and dislikes etc that creates suffering and depression from not being able tro satisfy desires and work for many can be challenging in that we have our duty and need to make a living and some workplaces are less suitable for some people and many don't love their work.
Being unhappy with outer circumstances as well as any negative thinking will affect our physical state of being including hormone levels.

I haven´t dug into it yet but received a shipment right from the source of what is supposedly purified shilajit. I have never tried it yet so cant tell how it works,
I understand for many it is too much of a leap to look into homeopathy? For me too being raised in Northern western intellectual Europe where homeopathy generally is looked upon less favorably. If you havent had the experience and dont believe in it I respect that. If interested I have contact details for one of the by numerous largest homeopathy consultation foundations in India who have had great success using homeopathy over many years on so many thousands of patients.

Some days I think about "the Rock" Dwayne Johnson being about my age and I read just a little about his training and how he is up early morning doing cardio and then some more throughout the day....
But but I am pretty much a regular Joe and a lazy ass too and that doesnt get better with age!

Hopefully one day I might grow some wisdom and peace in my soul because right now I know little and little how to help you.
But you will find what is best for you! Imagine the Sun of energy in your navel centre that is also the physical visualization part for manipura chakra, the third chakra from the bottom in yoga science and they say when it is fully activated we will have so much energy and not get sick etc.... But I have just read about it and hoping for it to be true! I do believe and believe you have to power to believe in you too!
 
My honest opinion is it has nothing to do with age and everything to do with this crappy modern world
 
Also the dopamine thing, if you were a adrenaline junkie or a drug attic or alcoholic at some point in your life and cleaned up. I can see sober regular life not providing a dopamine hit like it use to. I absolutely feel like that happened when I quit drinking and going out looking for crazy **** lol
 
You just left a long-term crappy situation, it may just take time to recover. Even if things are "better" now that you left it is likely a big change which can cause changes in how you are reacting to things.

Between aging, large lifestyle changes, and the cycling I don't think it is too surprising to be feeling down or possibly even low-level depression.

Given the big changes just give it some time, doesn't mean you can't continue to work on things to look for some relief, but I just wouldn't stress on it being unprecedented in that situation. Hopefully you find things on the up as time goes on.
 
generally once you get in your 40's you start to look back at life and have some regrets and also are able to see into the future more and can create some anxiety over financial and legal situations i have been in/ planning for retirement/taking care of aging parents and death of family members and failing close relationships(i work with my ex and her mom). as you age things that were once important and or bothered you no longer become a worry and new problems occur that you will have to deal with them as they come. problems i never dealt with and suppressed in my 20's and 30s did not magically go away and now i have to deal with them in my mid 40's which sucks even worse. i enjoy fishing and golfing and try to get a balance of outdoor activities when i am feeling down has helped tremendously
 
Well said Lanky….I feel the same especially about the part of certain things bothering you at a younger age which are trivial now, you get older and wiser but the things you care about change for sure
 
You be dealing with burnout. Overworked and under slept with a lot of stress will take time to recover from it. Feeling related to depression are commonly felt in burnout. Focus on managing stress and getting as much unrestricted quality sleep as you can. As far as supplements, rhodiola has some data helping with burnout. Other adaptogens like ashwagandha could also be useful for now.
 
definitely eating and sleeping well helps with managing stress, burnout sucks, i was working a career for 11 years that was pure hell alone coupled with 6 years of litigation. sad to admit my mind went to really bad places, i held all the stress in because i did not want to worry my family, in retrospect that was the worst thing i could have done. i did not seek medical help but i was acutely mentally ill .fortunately a door opened up for me 6 years ago and it is 60% less stress.
 
muscleman said:
I am sorry to hear about your hardships! I am actually almost hitting 50 and actually 10 years ago I was at my peak of weight training. But I pushed myself with strong PWOs and then life was really hard with lots of moves in between countries..

I am afraid there is no magic quick fix and everybody being exhausted for different kind of reasons also have their unique bodychemistry.

Most often I think it is our own mind and likes and dislikes etc that creates suffering and depression from not being able tro satisfy desires and work for many can be challenging in that we have our duty and need to make a living and some workplaces are less suitable for some people and many don't love their work.
Being unhappy with outer circumstances as well as any negative thinking will affect our physical state of being including hormone levels.

I haven´t dug into it yet but received a shipment right from the source of what is supposedly purified shilajit. I have never tried it yet so cant tell how it works,
I understand for many it is too much of a leap to look into homeopathy? For me too being raised in Northern western intellectual Europe where homeopathy generally is looked upon less favorably. If you havent had the experience and dont believe in it I respect that. If interested I have contact details for one of the by numerous largest homeopathy consultation foundations in India who have had great success using homeopathy over many years on so many thousands of patients.

Some days I think about "the Rock" Dwayne Johnson being about my age and I read just a little about his training and how he is up early morning doing cardio and then some more throughout the day....
But but I am pretty much a regular Joe and a lazy ass too and that doesnt get better with age!

Hopefully one day I might grow some wisdom and peace in my soul because right now I know little and little how to help you.
But you will find what is best for you! Imagine the Sun of energy in your navel centre that is also the physical visualization part for manipura chakra, the third chakra from the bottom in yoga science and they say when it is fully activated we will have so much energy and not get sick etc.... But I have just read about it and hoping for it to be true! I do believe and believe you have to power to believe in you too!
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Thank you for your comment.

Yeh maybe I'm looking for a quick turn around in health. Looking back at the last 4 years of my life. I was seriously running my body into the ground. Like I was saying. 30 thousand + steps everyday. It wasn't just walking. Most times I was carrying heavy items also. I was sleeping like 5 hours a night. So my body has took a beating.

I quit a few weeks ago. I actually woke up and could barely walk. It was like my body was just saying. Nope. My partner got me back to bed and they just says. Not think it's maybe time to stop? I agreed and just haven't returned. A company like that will never keep staff. Their paying so poor and wanting so much from their staff. I can honestly stack shelfs in a supermarket and get paid more? Makes zero sense.

How is your health overall? Do you keep yourself active?

I've been training alot more recently and have been loving it again. I was miserable training while working. Just so much stress on my body. I try and do an hour each day. I bought a cold plunge also. I do an hours training and do a cold plunge directly after it. The feeling is incredible tbh. I fast until 1pm so my schedule is. Wake. Have an hour with my partner. Coffee and chat. Train for an hour and then cold plunge. I get myself cleaned up and changed and then sit down to food. My partner fasts also so it's ideal. I've currently got my calories in a surplus so I'm trying to grow a little. My metabolism seems crazy high still so I'm pushing 4000+ calories. Enjoying it so far.

My issue is around 4pm I get this intense wave of fatigue. It's been so consistent that my partner will always say. You going to get some rest? So I have an hour or 2 to get a nap in. Then the evening is food and odds and ends. Keeping myself busy isn't an issue. My problem is how low my mood has been. It will take time I suspect.

I've read about Shilajit. I've thought about picking some up before.

Are you on trt? I've been on it a few years now. I really enjoy it. I also run natural supplements now and again also. Recently picked up one that looks good. Gonna run this a month and see how it does. Nothing can really compete with test mind lol. Even a 100mg dose boost adds much more mass. I don't go above my trt dose though. Too easy to get addicted to the feel and gains. Also the estrogen can start getting crazy.

How's life for yourself bud?

Again. Thanks for the comment. Reading all these has really cheered me up. A nice bunch on here.
 
lanky said:
generally once you get in your 40's you start to look back at life and have some regrets and also are able to see into the future more and can create some anxiety over financial and legal situations i have been in/ planning for retirement/taking care of aging parents and death of family members and failing close relationships(i work with my ex and her mom). as you age things that were once important and or bothered you no longer become a worry and new problems occur that you will have to deal with them as they come. problems i never dealt with and suppressed in my 20's and 30s did not magically go away and now i have to deal with them in my mid 40's which sucks even worse. i enjoy fishing and golfing and try to get a balance of outdoor activities when i am feeling down has helped tremendously
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Do you ever find yourself getting anxiety thinking back of the stuff you Used To do worth certain situations and even though it's been like 20 years ago in your head it Feels like it was yesterday and it's almost embarrassing lol. That happens to me a lot when I think back about all the fun I used to have but I have anxiety thinking about it because of how reckless it was
 
Smont said:
Do you ever find yourself getting anxiety thinking back of the stuff you Used To do worth certain situations and even though it's been like 20 years ago in your head it Feels like it was yesterday and it's almost embarrassing lol. That happens to me a lot when I think back about all the fun I used to have but I have anxiety thinking about it because of how reckless it was
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not so much anxiety over the previous stuff but yes very embarrassed, sometimes i will be laying in bed trying to sleep and something really cringy i did many years ago will pop in my head and make it even harder to sleep. most of my anxiety right now is over the future for retirement planning and wondering how my health will be around that time and who will take care of me
 
lanky said:
not so much anxiety over the previous stuff but yes very embarrassed, sometimes i will be laying in bed trying to sleep and something really cringy i did many years ago will pop in my head and make it even harder to sleep. most of my anxiety right now is over the future for retirement planning and wondering how my health will be around that time and who will take care of me
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What age are you if you don't mind me asking?

I live with a friend and he's 68 and he's incredible for his age. Very fit and capable. He's still strong and doesn't lift weights.

I think the main thing about aging is keeping a positive mindset but also to keep pushing your body. Aa you age your body is less likely to hang onto muscle. I think most guys in their 50/60's should think about trt. It would keep their sex drive great and also help maintain most of their mass.
 
bell1986 said:
What age are you if you don't mind me asking?

I live with a friend and he's 68 and he's incredible for his age. Very fit and capable. He's still strong and doesn't lift weights.

I think the main thing about aging is keeping a positive mindset but also to keep pushing your body. Aa you age your body is less likely to hang onto muscle. I think most guys in their 50/60's should think about trt. It would keep their sex drive great and also help maintain most of their mass.
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Aw your still a young buck lol plenty of time left

How has your overall mood/body changed with getting 40+?

I've noticed a huge difference since I went from 35 onwards. Especially if I go a night out. Alcohol I use to tolerate ok. Slight hangover the next day. Now though. I'm destroyed for days and days. I just don't drink now. Absolutely ruins my mood for days on end. Just not worth it.

Are you currently working? I just left a job. I'm sort of anxious but also relived regarding it. The company want me to return asap. They phone me every single day and they get other management to email me. Kinda stressing me out tbh
 
Just throwing my hat in here, I turn 42 next week and generally speaking, I feel 16. I still like punk rock, blue hair, extreme sports, and tits. But the daily grind and repetition of work can really weigh us down. I think men are supposed to have a battle, a fight, and sometimes when life is a little too much on cruise control, it can feel like we aren't fighting for something. That cruise control doesn't mean it's easy, but the challenge might not be rewarding and that can be really hard. I think as the other guys mentioned above, you do that for long enough and you do end up having to struggle with the fatigue of burnout.

bell1986 said:
If anyone did hit a random low. What was your cause?
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life is hard. But, it's supposed to be, IMO. When dad and I started our biz 22 1/2 years ago I remember at one point being frustrated that we weren't filthy rich yet with gold plated door knobs and whatnot and it just sorta clicked to me that we are supposed to grind.


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hang in there champ, ups and downs are what build a good life. I tell myself to minimize the bad, and maximize the good. Gym, marriage, and the rest of life are the same to me. 9 out of 10 days it's discipline that keeps me going, then that 10th day hits and it's all 100% worth it
 
bell1986 said:
Aw your still a young buck lol plenty of time left

How has your overall mood/body changed with getting 40+?

I've noticed a huge difference since I went from 35 onwards. Especially if I go a night out. Alcohol I use to tolerate ok. Slight hangover the next day. Now though. I'm destroyed for days and days. I just don't drink now. Absolutely ruins my mood for days on end. Just not worth it.

Are you currently working? I just left a job. I'm sort of anxious but also relived regarding it. The company want me to return asap. They phone me every single day and they get other management to email me. Kinda stressing me out tbh
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definitely body changes around age 38 or 39 i hit a wall and lost some mass and strength steadily over the past 5 years. areas that were once lean have a slight layer of fat over my lower abs although i am still very lean compared to 99% of the people in america. .hairline has receded quite a bit over the past 25 years,. have been employed with the same healthcare company for 18 years although in a better department now than 6 years ago. .i was never big on drinking, i will have an occasional bit of whiskey with a cigar but average maybe one or two drinks a month if that. i would rather go out and get a nice steak as a treat compared to a crappy pint. i definitely have less zest for life compared to my 20's and 30's
 
Smont said:
Do you ever find yourself getting anxiety thinking back of the stuff you Used To do worth certain situations and even though it's been like 20 years ago in your head it Feels like it was yesterday and it's almost embarrassing lol. That happens to me a lot when I think back about all the fun I used to have but I have anxiety thinking about it because of how reckless it was
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Lol, I do this ALL the time and all sweaty palmed just thinking about it. Cliff jumping, doing 80 on the highway just sitting in the back of a pickup, all the running from cops, etc.. The fact that I am here today is nothing short of a miracle.
 
bell1986 said:
I'm heading for 40.

All through my 20's and early 30's I was always upbeat and happy. I did have anxiety issues but I never let it plague me.

I've noticed as I'm aging that my mood is seriously going south? I was in a toxic job for 4 years recently and at the end their my body was so beaten up that I quit. I was walking/working 30k+ steps everyday. It was an early start job also (6am. Had to waken at 4.30am). We also started a new supervisor and she was hell. Wanting more and more out of us. Bare in mind the company were paying the lowest minimum wage offered here in the UK. I am financially fine so I just woke up one day and says.. I'm finished with them. That was 5 weeks ago. They have phoned me numerous times to return but I've said no. I was a hard worker and jobs were being pushed my way constantly because I always would make sure the standard of finish was high. Good for them but not for me. The endless phone calls also tells me just how hard I actually did work for them.

My plan was to take 2 full months off. I would just spend time with friends/family. I would get back full swing into my training. I had dropped my training to 2 days per week because I was always home late and exhausted. I still tried to fit 2 full body sessions in a week though. I had lost alot of weight aswell so I've spent this 5 weeks in a serious surplus. My sleep still isn't incredible but it's 10x better than when I was in that job. I average 6-7 hours a night.

I am exercising daily. I also cycle alot.

I'm on TRT. 120mg a week and my levels sit at 1100. I keep my e2 around 40. So my hormones are good.

I am still feeling fairly low? Not sure why it is?

Have any of you guys hit a rut and ever discovered the cause? It honestly feels like a low dopamine sort of state. I've had a look online at some supplements that maybe can increase my dopamine levels?

Another addition I've added recently is cold water therapy. I bought a plunge and keep it at around 10c (50f). It's early days for this though.

If anyone did hit a random low. What was your cause?

Anything worth looking into?

I've still got a few weeks before I start looking for new employment. I won't be taking another job like I had. The work environment was insanely toxic.

Thanks
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I wanted to revisit this thread and ask how your doing. Did you take those 2 months off? Back to the gym? How's life treating you
 
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