Masteron overrated?

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Never tried it but hear mixed things..

Can increase well being...Libido... Aggression...Hair loss acne?

What the realistic pros and cons of using Masteron?

I know some say they prefer it to Primobolan even if they were the same price.
 
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Overrated, maybe. Depends on why you wanna use it. I love it, but I don't use it with some hope that it's going to build me a bunch of muscle. I add a little bit to my cycles to get some synergy with the testosterone. Gives me a little strength, if I'm lean it's got some good cosmetic effects and I don't get acne or hairloss from it.

So for me, it's not overrated.

But if it doesn't help you with estrogen management, gives you acne or makes your hair shed, or your looking to pack on size, you will find it overrated.

In low doses along side test and higher doses in a contest scenario it's worth it.

But if looking to build up muscle tissue and looking to build up total mg to your cycle, primo wins all day
 
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Some guys like to do a 50/50 split mast and primo. But honestly, I think the reason some guys prefer it over primo is they probably had fake primo
 
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Overrated, maybe. Depends on why you wanna use it. I love it, but I don't use it with some hope that it's going to build me a bunch of muscle. I add a little bit to my cycles to get some synergy with the testosterone. Gives me a little strength, if I'm lean it's got some good cosmetic effects and I don't get acne or hairloss from it.

So for me, it's not overrated.

But if it doesn't help you with estrogen management, gives you acne or makes your hair shed, or your looking to pack on size, you will find it overrated.

In low doses along side test and higher doses in a contest scenario it's worth it.

But if looking to build up muscle tissue and looking to build up total mg to your cycle, primo wins all day
Yeah I'm not going on anything else of course but I like to find out more information and thank you again.

I'm finding I cannot fucking eat enough at the moment... I've had over 500 grams of carbs from oats alone in the last day.

And that's without everything else... Nearly 4 litres of goat's milk... Is like being a fucking teenager again lol.

It doesn't touch the sides.. This stuff is mad..

I could fast forever without juice but now it fucks me up so don't do it.

I had so many misconceptions about gear before trying it and am getting proved wrong on many fronts as I knew nothing to be honest but thought I did.
 
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I hear Masteron can help with libido and well being?

Aggression too for some.
 
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I am running 400 test and 300 mast now. I love the synergy between the 2 and my use of an ai is damn near non existent. My aggression and libido are up as well. I am so use to running an oral on the back end but going to let the injectables play out this round. This is my 6th cycle and I always keep my expectations at a realistic approach. Some guys think they will be pros their first cycle.
 
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Overrated would depend on what claims are being made TBH.

With each passing day I am realizing more and more than most peoples expectations with MOST things are completely devoid of reality and reason...............steroids are not exempt.
 

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Every now and again I'll add a little to my trt dose. I love it for the libido boost. I don't dose it high enough to see the cosmetic benefits. I'm dosing about 120 mg per week 1 to 1 with test cyp.
 
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Overrated would depend on what claims are being made TBH.

With each passing day I am realizing more and more than most peoples expectations with MOST things are completely devoid of reality and reason...............steroids are not exempt.
I concur...chasing the dragon
 
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Pros:
-Increases strength
-Increased libido in many
-Drives protein synthesis, on a per mg basis, similar to most other AAS
-Increased muscle hardening
-Lowers rate of aromatization of testosterone you’re taking
-Decreased water retention, bp, kidney impact accordingly (especially since less test is being converted to estrogen)
-Hairloss/hair growth/virilization sides lower than equivalent dose of test for many (especially women)
-Half the price of Primobolan per mg

Cons:
-Increased libido (can be undesirable)
-Muscles stay flatter/harder to fill out
-Lowering estrogen too much will negatively impact growth and strength potential
-Slightly harder on lipids for some than testosterone, eq, nandrolone or probably even Primobolan
-Hairloss is greater for some than test; as a DHT derivative using a 5AR blocker is useless
-Can still cause acne in some
-Still raises bp, like more of any gear

Like all compounds, it’s excellent for some and a terrible waste of sides/time for others. It’s going to depend on how you respond to different steroids and what you are trying to accomplish and what you will put up with.

If someone wanted to get as big/strong as possible I would never direct them to Masteron. I would put them on big doses of test along with solid doses of some combo of nandrolone, tren, & Anavar or Anadrol. Or a boatload of Trest and Anavar. And most people would get gyno immediately, be horrible bloated messes with insane bp that would be murdering their kidneys, cramps, pumps, insomnia, crazy sweats. Nevermind bloodwork being trashed internally.

We have to operate in reality: the right tools for the job will be needs-based & based on individual response. Most people can’t take too much crap, and don’t respond well to bigger doses or the side effect potential of many compounds. I do great with adding Masteron vs just upping doses of literally anything else. It’s a great way to use more gear while minimizing side effect increases.
 
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Yeah think I'm going to avoid in the future or some say use a very low dosage and it can keep estrogen sides lower...

Tbh for what I'm looking for...Test and primo is probably it.... Maybe a low dose of Var one day and maybe some npp but this is pushing it.

When I come off I need probably at least 6 months to reevaluate if it's worth.
 
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Yeah think I'm going to avoid in the future or some say use a very low dosage and it can keep estrogen sides lower...

Tbh for what I'm looking for...Test and primo is probably it.... Maybe a low dose of Var one day and maybe some npp but this is pushing it.

When I come off I need probably at least 6 months to reevaluate if it's worth.
Primo can elevate RBC/hematocrit/hemoglobin a lot more than masteron for some which can mean blood donations, it’s not quite as potent at off-setting estrogen, it’s often brewed lower concentration/ml, it doesn’t drive neurology (strength, skill acquisition) as well, again cost can be 50-80% higher.

Primo is probably the better muscle growth/off-season drug, but not inherently the better bodybuilding drug even. Masteron will certainly be better deep in a cut, aesthetically, unless the athlete struggles with fullness on stage. But for water retentive guys it’s a no brainer for a prep.
 
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I asked @Whisky about this, and he said:

Having mast in your stack is like having a girlfriend who is into anal. You can be happy and content with a girl who doesnt like anal, but life is so much better if she is.

HTH
 
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Great answers... Thanks..

I'm on Primo and test right now for me Mast sounds alluring maybe one day but Primo feels so clean and smooth... Why am I going to get involved with something that could give me unwarranted sides.
 

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I am running 400 test and 300 mast now. I love the synergy between the 2 and my use of an ai is damn near non existent. My aggression and libido are up as well. I am so use to running an oral on the back end but going to let the injectables play out this round. This is my 6th cycle and I always keep my expectations at a realistic approach. Some guys think they will be pros their first cycle.
How you liking it? Just started 300 mast 300ntest var at the end last 6 weeks. Wondering if I should I add tren or npp in the mix. Looking to just look good and feel good this summer. I like aggression libido vascularity fullness and veins haha
 
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How you liking it? Just started 300 mast 300ntest var at the end last 6 weeks. Wondering if I should I add tren or npp in the mix. Looking to just look good and feel good this summer. I like aggression libido vascularity fullness and veins haha
I am really liking mast...first time using it. On week 8 and feeling hard and looking more shredded. Just got bloods and everything checked out wonderful. I am on the mindset of less is more. You should be fine with the var at the end...since my bloods are good I am going to add some at the end as well.
 
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It’s better when you stick it in your butt!







Or delts, lats, whatever IM sites you prefer.
Have you tried straight TD DHT by any chance? I've been thinking about trying that. Heard good things and multiple uses. But I'm a little confused, I don't actually understand the difference between straight dht and mast.

Is it basically masteron no ester?
 

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I am really liking mast...first time using it. On week 8 and feeling hard and looking more shredded. Just got bloods and everything checked out wonderful. I am on the mindset of less is more. You should be fine with the var at the end...since my bloods are good I am going to add some at the end as well.
Awesome man was thinking of adding tren in? Or just keep the two only
 
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Have you tried straight TD DHT by any chance? I've been thinking about trying that. Heard good things and multiple uses. But I'm a little confused, I don't actually understand the difference between straight dht and mast.

Is it basically masteron no ester?
I’ve at least played with a lot of weird compounds, but never have I seen any preparation of straight DHT or methyl-DHT anywhere. Heard guys used it transdermally some in porn and the like, and also heard anecdotes that injectable is very good at musclebuilding, androgenic side effects notwithstanding. But that’s me just parroting unsubstantiated internet rumors.

Hell no Masteron isn’t DHT! You can give Mast Prop to a woman with less virilization per mg than Testosterone Prop; good luck having them use any quantity of DHT without experiencing transitioning features. Masteron is an anabolic compound that also competes with estrogen and drives neurology. If you want to be harder and drier while preserving or building muscle, you take Masteron over other things. If you want to increase strength without lots of weight gain, or improve learning or practice of competition events/lifts near a contest, you use Masteron.
 
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I’ve at least played with a lot of weird compounds, but never have I seen any preparation of straight DHT or methyl-DHT anywhere. Heard guys used it transdermally some in porn and the like, and also heard anecdotes that injectable is very good at musclebuilding, androgenic side effects notwithstanding. But that’s me just parroting unsubstantiated internet rumors.

Hell no Masteron isn’t DHT! You can give Mast Prop to a woman with less virilization per mg than Testosterone Prop; good luck having them use any quantity of DHT without experiencing transitioning features. Masteron is an anabolic compound that also competes with estrogen and drives neurology. If you want to be harder and drier while preserving or building muscle, you take Masteron over other things. If you want to increase strength without lots of weight gain, or improve learning or practice of competition events/lifts near a contest, you use Masteron.
I've heard transdermal dht was good for strength and agression and I heard it would shrink gyno dramatically. I've seen the raws for sale but never a premade product
 
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How would they use it for porn? I'm assuming you would have to rub it directly on your junk, but then it would transfer to the chick.

Not willing to try that lol, I don't need to be any extra distraction lol
 
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How would they use it for porn? I'm assuming you would have to rub it directly on your junk, but then it would transfer to the chick.

Not willing to try that lol, I don't need to be any extra distraction lol
People aren’t always worried how their actions affect others, and some people are ignorant. Also, contextually people may not really be worried about one-time exposures enough to bother telling someone. And of course, there’s plenty of gay porn out there.

Do not do that with a female partner though lol
 
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What I wouldn't give for a chance to try transdermal dht.
In another forum I follow a thread of enthusiast who make their own transdermals. Definitely seen recipes for DHT transdermal. Pretty sure you can just get DHT in raw form and dissolve it in DMSO.
 

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