Looking extremely flat on PCT?

HunterRen

HunterRen

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Ran first ever cycle of test and anavar. Now doing a PCT. However my muscle is extremely flat. I actually look worse than I did before my cycle (during cycle was insane though). Has anyone experienced this? My erections are also weak. I get that pct period will be a struggle but now im worried. Does it get better over time off cycle?
 
It's fairly normal and everyone is different. No1 can truthfully tell you what's going to happen to you. Typically within 2-3 months most ppl are back to normal. Also do not attempt to cut during pct, that makes recovery way harder.
 
In the mean time get some cailis/tadalifil and what's your pct? Is it a serm? Did you use hcg or kispeptin or are you using some otc booster
 
Smont said:
In the mean time get some cailis/tadalifil and what's your pct? Is it a serm? Did you use hcg or kispeptin or are you using some otc booster
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I'm running enclomiphene 12.5mg every other day. But man the flatness and low energy is so bad, it makes lifting a pain
 
HunterRen said:
I'm running enclomiphene 12.5mg every other day. But man the flatness and low energy is so bad, it makes lifting a pain
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Ya your barely running a pct and you probably crashed , I would go to 12.5 daily just because 12.5 daily is like the bare minimum dose I see in pct. Next cycle I would get some hcg and I would have nolva on hand as a alternative to enclo in case enclo is the problem I itself. This is the risk everyone takes when using steroids. Some go through pct like a breeze and some suffer. But in your case I'd start by running a better pct. Did you get any pre cycle bloodwork? If you did then you should draw again and see where your at week 4 or 6 of pct and compare, make notes and revisit the issue if needed. Also, are you actually flat? Post some pics. Most ppl aren't flat, there just off cycle and not getting a enhanced pump from the gear. If your not using creatine and carbs around your workouts then start
 
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Also I'm a rep for MA research, in the future if you need pct stuff or anything for that matter, my screen name is 15%off.

im not big on pre workouts with stims, especially on cycle, but in pct and having your issues, Some pre workout and some tadalafil would probably be helpful
 
HunterRen said:
Would the estrogen from enclomiphene be a concern on every day?

Also would a cycle of igf1 lr3 peptide be a good idea during pct?
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Would a cycle of lr3 be a good idea.....

Why, what's the idea, what's the point? My Legit curiosity on this, but... it's not going to really do anything noticeable at this point in time, it can help with fat loss and recovery a very slight bit. But honestly I don't see any real value for it in pct that pertains to pct and even on cycle there's only a few times it makes sense to make it worth the squeeze. Hcg or kisspeptin are probably the only 2 things that will be a good idea, that and extending the length of pct.

If you don't have blood work and you're not getting more blood work then you basically gotta play a guessing game. Any advice that me or anyone else gives you is just going to be guesses and it may be right or it may be wrong. And wrong
Guesses will cause more problems
 
I haven't read through this thread but the first culprit that comes to mind would be high estrogen. Any other sides or symptoms of high estrogen? Might want to get a quick hormone panel done.
 
Smont said:
Would a cycle of lr3 be a good idea.....

Why, what's the idea, what's the point? My Legit curiosity on this, but... it's not going to really do anything noticeable at this point in time, it can help with fat loss and recovery a very slight bit. But honestly I don't see any real value for it in pct that pertains to pct and even on cycle there's only a few times it makes sense to make it worth the squeeze. Hcg or kisspeptin are probably the only 2 things that will be a good idea, that and extending the length of pct.

If you don't have blood work and you're not getting more blood work then you basically gotta play a guessing game. Any advice that me or anyone else gives you is just going to be guesses and it may be right or it may be wrong. And wrong
Guesses will cause more problems
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So i got my free T, total T and estrogen checked.

Total: 1070
Free T: 157
Estrogen: 56. (Reference range said under 29 is normal).

So i have high estrogen. Since this post i upped my enclomiphene to 12.5mg per day and did that for a week then got blood work.

Can double the normal estrogen be causing me to look more flat or watery?? should i drop the dosing to every other day for this pct. I was planning on running enclo for 2 months. I feel i look worse than before my cycle despite more muscle.
 
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