KSM66: Any benefits going above 600mg?

[muscleupcrohn]

As for bacopa:

Bacopa has been used medicinally for thousands of years by Ayurvedic physicians, the practitioners of the traditional system of medicine of India. Bacopa was first chronicled in several ancient Ayurvedic texts including the Caraka Samhita (2500 B.C.) and the Susrata Samhita (2300 B.C.) where clear reference was made to its action on the central nervous system (CNS) (P.V., 2011; Rai et al., 2003).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5269610/#!po=2.77778

Or from a study on Bacognize:

Its description in Indian scriptures dates back to 5000 BC. It has been used in Ayurveda since 500 AD as “Medhya Rasayana” [2] for treatment of anxiety, poor memory, epilepsy [3], improvement of cognitive processes, comprehension, memory, and recall [4].

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5075615/#!po=26.7442

 

[muscleupcrohn]

If you don't have the answer, just say so. Instead it's accusing me of being anti-religious and screaming to read the transcripts! You said modern clinical doses were based on traditional doses and that it's been used for thousands of years. I'm asking if you have a source for that as I was genuinely interested. And yes, I expect references when talking about science.

What? I said that the "traditional dose" is 3-6g. The "traditional dose" IS the "Ayurvedic dose." There are also tons of studies/papers that reference that it's been used historically for thousands of years. If you're asking me for proof that they used 3-6g thousands of years ago, then no, I can't prove that, of course.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

But the modern studies on ashwagandha date back a few decades at the most, and extracts like KSM-66 even less. The Pharmacopoeia I referenced was published by India in the 1980s, and pulled from much, much older Ayurvedic texts. That was the traditional dose at the time, and is a good idea of where the studies arrived at the "traditional dose" from. As to what period/date between thousands of years ago to the 1980s it arrived at that point, I do not know, only that, at the time these modern studies were conducted, and at least a bit before them, the traditional/Ayurvedic dose of an herb that has been used in their system of "medicine" for thousands of years was pretty spot-on with what the modern extract-equivalent dose shown to be effective is.

 

[muscleupcrohn]

Ayurveda, the traditional system of medicine practiced in India can be traced back to 6000 BC (Charak Samhita, 1949). For most of these 6000 years Ashwagandha has been used as a Rasayana.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3252722/

Ayurveda, the traditional system of medicine practiced in India, can be traced back to 6000 Bc [8–11]. For most of this history, Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera), also known as “Indian ginseng” due to its rejuvenating effects, has been described in folk medicine as an aphrodesiac and general tonic [12].

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3863556/

KSM-66's website claims a >4,000 year history of Ayurvedic practitioners using ashwagandha root, and the makers of KSM talk in great detail in various articles/white-papers on how they combine ancient Ayurvedic techniques and knowledge with modern science and extraction/testing to make KSM-66.

https://ksm66ashwagandhaa.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Report-Selecting-the-Right-Ashwagandha-Supplier.pdf?>