King of OTC on cycle/post cycle support

fame126

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Wanted to know if sup3r pct and or ar1micare still reign supreme when it comes to on cycle/post cycle therapy. I've chosen a pretty toxic ph in amf's cyborg. I already know bp will likely be a problem as well as liver toxicity. Is there something I'm missing or should be taking? The 2 seem to pretty much cover all bases. Also, I'm still on trt and will be doing a blast along with cyborg. Any and all help is appreciated. cheers
 

Quads_of_Stee

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i would say AlphaMax xt definitely rivals sup3r pct.
Alphamax xt now has added EL in a 100:1 extract for added test boosting, DHAA for anti-e + cort control, ferulic acid for lean mass and as an ergogenic, among the plenty of old ingredients it already contained like F95, 34divii, l-dopa, ZMA, etc.

Both products are solid but I would put them on par with the advantage going to whichever ingredients you prefer more or want to switch things up as Alphamax xt should not be run longer than 8weeks
 

Jebrook

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Wanted to know if sup3r pct and or ar1micare still reign supreme when it comes to on cycle/post cycle therapy. I've chosen a pretty toxic ph in amf's cyborg. I already know bp will likely be a problem as well as liver toxicity. Is there something I'm missing or should be taking? The 2 seem to pretty much cover all bases. Also, I'm still on trt and will be doing a blast along with cyborg. Any and all help is appreciated. cheers
IMO you won't find a more complete cycle support combo than ACP and TUDCA, nor a better value for the dosages. Great protection for a toxic cycle. Super PCT is still great with the newest version, but there are several comparable pct products out there. I would choose by which is the best value for what you receive.
 

Jebrook

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AntM1564

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If you already have those on hand, then go with those. However, if you're still looking, AlphaMax XT is an all in one solution and is great during PCT in addition to a SERM. Proven ingredients and doses to help boost libido, control estrogen and raise free testosterone.
 

sgtgreen

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Damage Control and Cycle Assist are the best sellers in supports for good reason.
 

ma70

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Ever since I have started looking at PHs and various support supplements, it seems like Purus Labs and CEL cycle assist products are great. For PCT, I would look into OL's Sup3r PCT, CEL PCT Assist, and Purus Labs Recycle.

For stuff that isn't 11-oxo/KT, you will also need a SERM for PCT
 

warbird01

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I run Cycle Assist all year long, not just on cycle. Supports good health regardless if you are on cycle or not. When I am on cycle I usually add in TUDCA.
 

fame126

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Would cel cycle assist and arimicare pro be overkill? Not looking to kill estrogen but simply keep at bay.
 

fame126

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2 years old you suppose still good?
I was thinking since that is the manufacture date and not expiration date should still be good huh?
 

Jebrook

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Would cel cycle assist and arimicare pro be overkill? Not looking to kill estrogen but simply keep at bay.
Neither one of these are specifically designed for controlling estrogen, although ACP does have an estrogen reduction matrix. I don't believe cycle assist has any estrogen control, so no overlap there. A few of the other ingredients overlap but nothing dangerous that I see. But both are good on their own. Plenty of support for the organs in each. I'd just choose what fits your needs best and go with that one. Kind of a waste to stack unless you're going to half dose each which seems redundant.
 

fame126

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So I'm kinda confused. Before I start my ph I want to have the correct support supps. Now am I right when I say I don't want an estrogen blocker? I don't want to eliminate it right? May suffer from estrogen rebound if too much estrogen is suppressed?I am on trt so I know that will play into this. Any and all help will be appreciated I just want to go about this as safely as possible. Thanks
 

Quads_of_Stee

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So I'm kinda confused. Before I start my ph I want to have the correct support supps. Now am I right when I say I don't want an estrogen blocker? I don't want to eliminate it right? May suffer from estrogen rebound if too much estrogen is suppressed?I am on trt so I know that will play into this. Any and all help will be appreciated I just want to go about this as safely as possible. Thanks
yes. you want to control estrogen not crush it. Estrogen is also needed to build muscle and maintain proper bodily functions alongside test. You would get the rebound if you crushed estrogen then didn't taper off the AI
 

jmaplewood

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yes. you want to control estrogen not crush it. Estrogen is also needed to build muscle and maintain proper bodily functions alongside test. You would get the rebound if you crushed estrogen then didn't taper off the AI
Is there any signs of too little estrogen? Running osta, Spartan lean and epiandro with 4 caps of arimicare pro per day.
 

cubsfan815

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Is there any signs of too little estrogen? Running osta, Spartan lean and epiandro with 4 caps of arimicare pro per day.
I know too much estrogen makes you eat chocolate, cry during the bachelor, and constantly tell your bf/husband how wrong he is. Just sayin.

:D
 

Quads_of_Stee

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Is there any signs of too little estrogen? Running osta, Spartan lean and epiandro with 4 caps of arimicare pro per day.
low libido is a sign. I've never had this happen so I don't fully know off the top of my head
 

vujade

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Is there any signs of too little estrogen? Running osta, Spartan lean and epiandro with 4 caps of arimicare pro per day.
loss of libido, dry achy joints are 2 of the big ones..
 

jmaplewood

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Thanks for the feedback guys. I think that half dose of arimicare is only 25 mg arimistane (don't have label in front of me at the moment). I read somewhere that epiandro is an anti estrogen. Running it at 500 mg as a base. Libido is up and joints feel fine.

Ha ha Also no chocolate cravings, bitchiness, and never even seen the bachelor.
 

Jebrook

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low libido is a sign. I've never had this happen so I don't fully know off the top of my head
If you have violent thoughts whenever the Notebook is on TV then estrogen is normal to low. However if you actually stop and watch without a gun to your head or a promise of sex, then estrogen is too high;). This is fact. Quoted from the Broscience Survival Guide.
 

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