Iron Legion-Virtus (AI for estro control)

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Have backed way off... Really dried out virtus is really a powerful AI.

Haven't dosed in 3 days now and estrogen is still low. I wouldnt say I crashed it. Ive been using them long enough to know when to back off. Its amazing to me that I'm running oral trest 2-4x per week preworkout alongside test trt dose and this stuff is controlling the sides. I did take a couple doses of prolactrone also to control any prolactin sides but can say without a shadow of a doubt this stuff kicks ass and is probably the strongest otc out there right now.
 
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Gives a nice dry look.

Final review
IRON LEGION VIRTUS

Effectiveness 8/10

It works and works well. For an otc ai it doesnt get any better. Alongside nolva it was able to bring under control some gyno I had flare up. Its currently back to its original state. All this while taking testosterone, pregnenolone, anavar and then oral trest at the end.

Transdermal application 9/10

Again it really doesnt get any better. The carrier is awesome (the same carrier used in alpha p5 pregnenolone) and is super effective. With transdermals the carrier is everything. A small 1 ml dropper is all you need per day. I started dosing at 1 ml and had to drop down to .5ml. If you know how much this is its basically a few drops of the liquid. I applied right to my chest and could physically feel a burning sensation inside after about 5 minutes which for me is typical of lowering estrogen within via the aromatase enzyme. The smell is pretty good too! Its kind of an earthy smell but good.

Libido/drying effects 6.5/10

I'm giving this a 6.5 bc basically I didnt notice any change in the libido as is the case in some ai s giving an increase. It did work well at drying me out so it definitely gets points for that.

Overall 8/10
A bit pricey but if you want an otc ai that works for light cycles and such this would definitely be a phenomenal choice. It was able to bring some gyno under control while I was using hormones. Low-dose test alongside some orals and on top of it had some estrogen problems already in full effect. Virtus did the trick. It does work and works very well.

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Great review...seems like some potent stuff for sure!

My GF (and anyone else that enters the house) always taunts me about how my hand is always on/in my crotch. Nice to know I am not alone!

Hey, at least I didn’t bring up the messages on the mirror again. BTW, I still can’t read them..
 
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Great review...seems like some potent stuff for sure!

My GF (and anyone else that enters the house) always taunts me about how my hand is always on/in my crotch. Nice to know I am not alone!

Hey, at least I didn’t bring up the messages on the mirror again. BTW, I still can’t read them..
Lol yeah man that photo is a throwback for Michael Jackson.... MJ ftw.
 
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Gives a nice dry look.

Final review
IRON LEGION VIRTUS

Effectiveness 8/10

It works and works well. For an otc ai it doesnt get any better. Alongside nolva it was able to bring under control some gyno I had flare up. Its currently back to its original state. All this while taking testosterone, pregnenolone, anavar and then oral trest at the end.

Transdermal application 9/10

Again it really doesnt get any better. The carrier is awesome (the same carrier used in alpha p5 pregnenolone) and is super effective. With transdermals the carrier is everything. A small 1 ml dropper is all you need per day. I started dosing at 1 ml and had to drop down to .5ml. If you know how much this is its basically a few drops of the liquid. I applied right to my chest and could physically feel a burning sensation inside after about 5 minutes which for me is typical of lowering estrogen within via the aromatase enzyme. The smell is pretty good too! Its kind of an earthy smell but good.

Libido/drying effects 6.5/10

I'm giving this a 6.5 bc basically I didnt notice any change in the libido as is the case in some ai s giving an increase. It did work well at drying me out so it definitely gets points for that.

Overall 8/10
A bit pricey but if you want an otc ai that works for light cycles and such this would definitely be a phenomenal choice. It was able to bring some gyno under control while I was using hormones. Low-dose test alongside some orals and on top of it had some estrogen problems already in full effect. Virtus did the trick. It does work and works very well.

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thanks for logging virtus, glad you liked it....if only using half dose [.5ml] makes the cost very reasonable, imo….and don't forget code THEBIGT gets 25% off at ironlegion.com!!!
 
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thanks for logging virtus, glad you liked it....if only using half dose [.5ml] makes the cost very reasonable, imo….and don't forget code THEBIGT gets 25% off at ironlegion.com!!!
Thanks for the code!
 
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heck yeah, I want everyone to get the best price possible...code works at both ironlegion.com AND iconicformulations.com!!!
Wish I saw when I first bought lol. It has been worth it so far thought.
 
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Gives a nice dry look.

Final review
IRON LEGION VIRTUS

Effectiveness 8/10

It works and works well. For an otc ai it doesnt get any better. Alongside nolva it was able to bring under control some gyno I had flare up. Its currently back to its original state. All this while taking testosterone, pregnenolone, anavar and then oral trest at the end.

Transdermal application 9/10

Again it really doesnt get any better. The carrier is awesome (the same carrier used in alpha p5 pregnenolone) and is super effective. With transdermals the carrier is everything. A small 1 ml dropper is all you need per day. I started dosing at 1 ml and had to drop down to .5ml. If you know how much this is its basically a few drops of the liquid. I applied right to my chest and could physically feel a burning sensation inside after about 5 minutes which for me is typical of lowering estrogen within via the aromatase enzyme. The smell is pretty good too! Its kind of an earthy smell but good.

Libido/drying effects 6.5/10

I'm giving this a 6.5 bc basically I didnt notice any change in the libido as is the case in some ai s giving an increase. It did work well at drying me out so it definitely gets points for that.

Overall 8/10
A bit pricey but if you want an otc ai that works for light cycles and such this would definitely be a phenomenal choice. It was able to bring some gyno under control while I was using hormones. Low-dose test alongside some orals and on top of it had some estrogen problems already in full effect. Virtus did the trick. It does work and works very well.

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Thank you for the log. I'm sorry you didn't see any change in libido. I know for myself libido does not change much as mine is already high.

For anyone who needs use code chef for a discount on any of Iron Legion or Iconic Formulations products.
 
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thanks for logging virtus, glad you liked it....if only using half dose [.5ml] makes the cost very reasonable, imo….and don't forget code THEBIGT gets 25% off at ironlegion.com!!!


Thanks for the log, Virtus is some strong stuff!!


Thank you for the log. I'm sorry you didn't see any change in libido. I know for myself libido does not change much as mine is already high.

For anyone who needs use code chef for a discount on any of Iron Legion or Iconic Formulations products.
I enjoyed the product thoroughly... Iron Legion making great TDs... Thanks for the log opp. Pick up some Virtus, dry out, use a rep code for a discount!! Be easy everybody
 
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I’m in on this!

This is one of the few products I have never had a chance to use, so I was happy to see that it recently came back.

I saw at least one log of this product stacked with Invictus, and the dude got exceptionally lean and ripped!

I hope Virtus sticks around this time so I can give it a whirl in the near future!

I am not on TRT, but that is likely just a matter of time :)
virtus stacked with Invictus is very good for getting lean.
 
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Very solid review, well done!

Is this a suicidal inhibitor or not, any chance for rebounds after quitting?

Btw do you notice any change in your hair? Im not referring to hair loss or your hairline, I saw that you tried formestane which was great but in my case made my hair very weak, no loss just decreased size temporary.
 
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The active in virtus is not a suicide inhibitor, you should taper doses towards the end to avoid rebound...mostly just an issue if you’re running it aggressively.
 
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The active in virtus is not a suicide inhibitor, you should taper doses towards the end to avoid rebound...mostly just an issue if you’re running it aggressively.
This is something I Have been wondering also, good to know (y) Do you happen to know (or anyone else reading this) what is the half life of Virtus approx? Mostly thinking about the importance of the timing of application.
 
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This is something I Have been wondering also, good to know (y) Do you happen to know (or anyone else reading this) what is the half life of Virtus approx? Mostly thinking about the importance of the timing of application.
Off the top of my head, I'm not sure. but, another consideration is that Salvo buffers delivery over 6-8 hours. It's generally considered ideal to apply first thing in the morning
 
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Off the top of my head, I'm not sure. but, another consideration is that Salvo buffers delivery over 6-8 hours. It's generally considered ideal to apply first thing in the morning
Yea, I was thinking about the td application most likely playing a significant role here. But why first thing in the morning though? Usually people have told me to take AI's right before going to bed because of the T production happening mostly at night. Does the salvo carrier make the flavozole peak a lot later after application? Obviously things are quite different if taking exogenous test.

Anyhow not needing to apply before bed is good news to me cause' I have missed some doses here and there due to sometimes being too tired to apply td and let it dry right before bed time (y)
 
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Yea, I was thinking about the td application most likely playing a significant role here. But why first thing in the morning though? Usually people have told me to take AI's right before going to bed because of the T production happening mostly at night. Does the salvo carrier make the flavozole peak a lot later after application? Obviously things are quite different if taking exogenous test.

Anyhow not needing to apply before bed is good news to me cause' I have missed some doses here and there due to sometimes being too tired to apply td and let it dry right before bed time (y)
that was the old school rule, it applied to orals, imo...when formestane became popular as a transdermal normal application time became 1st thing in morning-that is when myself and most of this forum i was aware of were dosing transdermal formestane-of course as with everything in life i'm sure there were exceptions.

different rules apply to orals versus transdermals, imo.
 
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that was the old school rule, it applied to orals, imo...when formestane became popular as a transdermal normal application time became 1st thing in morning-that is when myself and most of this forum i was aware of were dosing transdermal formestane-of course as with everything in life i'm sure there were exceptions.

different rules apply to orals versus transdermals, imo.
Ok. I still don't see the benefit in applying first thing in the morning versus in the evening, BUT I guess the take away here is that Virtus can be applied when seen most convinient, which I gladly take.
 
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Ok. I still don't see the benefit in applying first thing in the morning versus in the evening, BUT I guess the take away here is that Virtus can be applied when seen most convinient, which I gladly take.
that is a decent take away-timing of dosing is less important with transdermals than orals.

the biggest reason for not using a td close to bedtime would be if it interferes with sleep, if that isn't a problem then most convenient is good to go.
 
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that is a decent take away-timing of dosing is less important with transdermals than orals.

the biggest reason for not using a td close to bedtime would be if it interferes with sleep, if that isn't a problem then most convenient is good to go.
I’ve used iconogenin at night on occasion.
 

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Did we ever learn the half life of Virtus? Also what do we think about applying to the scrotum where absorption is supposed to be best? Any danger in that? I'm applying compounded test cream to my scrotum already, and it works great.
 
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Did we ever learn the half life of Virtus? Also what do we think about applying to the scrotum where absorption is supposed to be best? Any danger in that? I'm applying compounded test cream to my scrotum already, and it works great.
I can't recall seeing anything regarding the half-life of the flavon in virtus, but I wouldn't generally advise applying to the scrotum. from what I recall the scrotum may be ideal for compounds we want to convert to DHT, but I'm not sure about AI's
 

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I can't recall seeing anything regarding the half-life of the flavon in virtus, but I wouldn't generally advise applying to the scrotum. from what I recall the scrotum may be ideal for compounds we want to convert to DHT, but I'm not sure about AI's
Thanks. Some research and anecdotal reports indicate the scrotum has up to 8x better absorption than any other part of the body. So that would be the reason to apply any transdermal there, not just those that convert to DHT. I have applied the Virtus there a few times and then immediately applied by testosterone cream. I think the Virtus may be helping the absorption of the cream too. Isn't there a certain ingredient in the Virtus that helps it absorb really well?
 

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