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Igf use for 2 years?

BigBub

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I have the opportunity to run igf-1 one month on one month off for 2 years @ 80mcgs daily
Or, I can run Igf-1 @ 80mcgs along side hgh @ 6ius daily for one year. My question to you is what
do you think is the best option from a growth stand point. I realize igf-1 is around 10x more potent
than hgh but I also know hgh has sort of a cummulative affect (the longer you run it, the better your results). I am leaning towards the first option because I think I would be betting more bang for my buck
running igf-1 for an extended period because it is focused more on muscle growth. Chime in and let me know what you think.
-BigBub
 
BigBub said:
Or, I can run Igf-1 @ 80mcgs along side hgh @ 6ius daily for one year.
-BigBub
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I hope your family and loved ones dont mind you looking like an ape/caveman. 6ius is quite a bit daily for a year.
 
BOHICA said:
I hope your family and loved ones dont mind you looking like an ape/caveman. 6ius is quite a bit daily for a year.
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I have never ran the two together for an extended period and am curious which combination will yield better results. Since hgh indirectly builds muscle by converting into small amounts of igf, would it be wiser just to use igf alone or would I benefit from taking them both.
 
run the igf 4 weeks on/4off

when on igf lower the hgh to 2-3iu to keep sides to a minimum.

if you use slin then that would be most beneficial in the weeks without igf.

-rodge
 
The effect between HGH and IGF is synergistic. From what I've read, lowering the HGH dosage slightly would make sense long term. So I concur with Rodge.
 
Since you're only 23yo, i'd go with option 1. You would prolly be happier with the results from IGF, from a growth/anabolic standpoint.
 
Thanks to everyone that replied. I think I'll run them together along side multiple AAS cycles (12 weeks on, 8 weeks off) for 54 weeks. I will use growth for the first 32 weeks and continue to cycle IGF until I hit week 54. I will run slin during my IGF off periods.
 
Plz post pictures, I'm know I'm speaking for alot, when I say that we would love to see the progress.
 
I will definitely take some before pics and may possibly post some throughout the progress of my cycle. I just started the AAS portion of my cycle this week. It will be nice using HGH and IGF with both AAS and PCT. I always gain like hell (30-40lbs a cycle) but lose a signifcant amount during my time off. I'm hoping HGH and IGF will help me solidify my gains during my AAS cycles and help me maintain most of the quality weight during PCT. My first of three AAS cycles with HGH and IGF contains the following:

Test E 1-10 750mgs
D-bol 1-4 40-50mgs ed
Anadrol 5-8 75mgs ed
Tren Ace 4-12 100mgs ed
Test Prop 10-12 100mgs ed

Simple, but effective... Some people may disagree with running the Anadrol in the middle after D-bol but I react a little Stronger to Anadrol than D-bol and will be starting my IGF and HGH during this time. I am using the Anadrol as sort of a plateau breaker in the middle of my cycle. Do you guys think I should run two longer cycles during HGH and IGF (14-18 weeks) or should I stick to three smaller cycles (12 weeks)? Personally I like longer cycles but I am trying to get the most out of my cycles during HGH and IGF. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
-BigBub
 
BigBub said:
... I always gain like hell (30-40lbs a cycle) but lose a signifcant amount during my time off...
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Well, yea... you're running dbol and drol back-to-back for 8 weeks. Both are known for causing alot of bloat.

Test E 1-10 750mgs
D-bol 1-4 40-50mgs ed
Anadrol 5-8 75mgs ed
Tren Ace 4-12 100mgs ed
Test Prop 10-12 100mgs ed

Simple, but effective... Some people may disagree with running the Anadrol in the middle after D-bol but I react a little Stronger to Anadrol than D-bol and will be starting my IGF and HGH during this time. I am using the Anadrol as sort of a plateau breaker in the middle of my cycle...
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Anyone with common sense will disagree with running drol for 4 weeks after 4 weeks of dbol. Do you plan on getting bloodwork done while running this cycle?? Prolly not... You really need to look at you liver values and lipid profile while you're on especially if you're planning on running 8 straight weeks of a 17aa gear.

Also, 100mg of tren ED is alot of tren, i would definitely run hcg with that...

I personally don't like the way this cycle is put together... just my 2 cents.
 
say goodbye to your liver and your balls.....I dont like this cycle at all either...oh and igf for 2 yrs probably isnt smart....maybe during PCT's, but its kinda known to cause cancerous growth....but what do i know
 
ryanbodybuilder said:
say goodbye to your liver and your balls.....I dont like this cycle at all either...oh and igf for 2 yrs probably isnt smart....maybe during PCT's, but its kinda known to cause cancerous growth....but what do i know
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igf does'nt cause cancer but speedup pre excisting tumors.

2 years of igf cycled 4 weeks on/4 weeks should'nt be a problem.

i agree on the dbol and drol,this can cause some severe sides running it for such a long time.

-rodge
 
-Sikkdogg
Thanks for the input. What changes would you make in the cycle. Here is another idea I was throwing around. Do you think this one looks better than the original one. I consist of the following:

Months 1-8
6ius HGH split daily

Months 1,3,5,7
12.5 mcgs T3 (Is T3 really necessary with growth for mass purposes?)

Months 1,3,5,7,9,11
Humalog 10-15ius 2x daily

Months 2,4,6,8,10,12
LR3 IGF-1 80-100mcgs split daily

Weeks 1-14 800mgs Test E; 1-6 75-100mgs Anadrol ed; 1-4 100mgs Test Susp ed; 7-12 50mgs d-bol;
7-17 100mgs Tren Ace ed; 14-17 100mgs Test Prop ed; 13-17 100mgs winstrol ed

I am fairly seasoned in aas usage but I am always up for suggestions. Any input would be much appreciated. I always run HCG throughout and have plenty of liver detoxifiers on hand. I also use L-dex throughout to keep bloat to a minimum.
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I would just stick with someting more simple, especially only taking 8 weeks off inbetween cycles. Test-e, eq, dbol would my choice for the first cycle. You will get the same results wtih those 3 as you would wtih all the extra no offense garbage stuckin there.
 
IMO you should set your goals a little shorter term.

Over the years most of us have seen guys all set to do these huge long ass cycles. You see them posting for a month or two then they disappear.

Thinking 2 years out is a VERY long time.


CROWLER
 
I'm with BOHICA and prefer simple stacks and short cycles...

I like the 6iu's of GH, t3, and IGF. I've never used slin so i don't have any opinions on it. As far as the gear goes, i just think that you have enough there for like 2-3 cycles. I think that you should go with a minimal approach as opposed to throwing everything in there all at once. My experience has been that the more you blow up on cycle, the harder it is to keep your gains so my goal has been to go for lean dry gains.

If this type of stack has worked for you in the past then go for it, but i just think that you could also make great gains using less gear and eating more.
 
Bohica, RyanBB, Crowler, and Sikk

Thanks for the input....Yeah this was just an idea. I think I will keep the cycles closer to around 12-14 weeks. I will probably cut a couple drugs out. I just got a whole lot of extras on hand and was thinking of utilizing them. I guess I will just save them for another cycle. I've always had excellent results with Test, D-bol, and Tren stacked together so maybe I should just stick to that. Another reason I was wanting to go a little heavier on the drugs is because of the fact that I am running HGH and IGF and I really want to push the envelope and hopefully speed up the process of the amount of hyperplasia that will take place. The main goal of these cycles ran along HGH will be to totally alter my body's composition and to helps me maintain my gains when going from cycle to cycle. I will keep you guys updated on my results...I just started today. If you guys want, I will start a fresh thread and keep a log so you all can see my progress throughout the next year. It will be interesting to see what the final outcome will be if I don't kill myself first J/k.
 
Sounds good go ahead and start a new thread.

Best of luck.



CROWLER
 
Bump for Big Bub update.


CROWLER
 
CROWLER said:
IMO you should set your goals a little shorter term.

Over the years most of us have seen guys all set to do these huge long ass cycles. You see them posting for a month or two then they disappear.

Thinking 2 years out is a VERY long time.


CROWLER
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Very, very good post. I think this is playing with fire, but that is just my opinion.
 
have you considered the psychological issues that would arise after two years? think how hard, mentally as well as physically, it would be to transition back to your natural state. that is, if you even can after that long.
 
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