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Personally I would use no less the. 4 no more then 12. But that’s me
 

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Hey can anyone who has used ultra hard tell me how hard it is in the hairline? Compared to, say, the old ergopharm 1ad just as a basis for comparison? Really keen to try it but not at the expense of going bald. Thx
 
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Hey can anyone who has used ultra hard tell me how hard it is in the hairline? Compared to, say, the old ergopharm 1ad just as a basis for comparison? Really keen to try it but not at the expense of going bald. Thx
Do you suffer from male pattern baldness? That's the biggest factor. Some people don't get hair shedding issues with any compound and some get with allmost anything hormonal. I didn't experience any hair shedding with UH, but I haven't on anything else either, thus far.
 

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I have the gene for it I think ( bald maternal grandfather) but at 36 yo, I'm holding on to it fairly well.i shed a little on 1ad but nothing drastic. Just trying to get a feel for how extreme it might be
 
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I have the gene for it I think ( bald maternal grandfather) but at 36 yo, I'm holding on to it fairly well.i shed a little on 1ad but nothing drastic. Just trying to get a feel for how extreme it might be
i don't think anyone can tell you how much you would shed, imho. i suggest nizoral.
 

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i don't think anyone can tell you how much you would shed, imho. i suggest nizoral.
Yea ur probably right. I wondered about nizoral actually. Does it actually help? Is it daily application?
 
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Yea ur probably right. I wondered about nizoral actually. Does it actually help? Is it daily application?
tbh i've never used it, but i've heard lots who have used say it helps-how much it helps will of course vary from person to person...it's been around for a long time you should be able to google reviews.
 
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If you're concerned about shedding, I'd consider 3 things:
1) start using pura d'or shampoo daily - at least a month before starting UH - or any other pro DHT products
2) Start using Toco-9 for long term hair health - stuff is truly amazing!
3) doing both 1 & 2
 
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Anyone had any issues with Ultra Hard effecting their sleep? Coming into work 3 of UH at 5 pumps and my sleep has been pretty trash this last week. I've ran andros before and not had this issue. Always dosing first thing in the morning. Was thinking of dropping the dose a bit to 3 or 4 pumps. Would 3 pumps at 82kg be to low? Ta
 
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Anyone had any issues with Ultra Hard effecting their sleep? Coming into work 3 of UH at 5 pumps and my sleep has been pretty trash this last week. I've ran andros before and not had this issue. Always dosing first thing in the morning. Was thinking of dropping the dose a bit to 3 or 4 pumps. Would 3 pumps at 82kg be to low? Ta
You can try it and see how well it works for you.
 
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Anyone had any issues with Ultra Hard effecting their sleep? Coming into work 3 of UH at 5 pumps and my sleep has been pretty trash this last week. I've ran andros before and not had this issue. Always dosing first thing in the morning. Was thinking of dropping the dose a bit to 3 or 4 pumps. Would 3 pumps at 82kg be to low? Ta
Well generally how these black series products are dosed, I consider 3 pumps to be the minimum. So 3 pumps is a worth a try. Last time I ran UH I wanted the bottle to last, so I did 4 pumps on WO days and 3 pumps on other days. It was a part of a stack and I feel like the dosing scheme was fine.
 
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Alpha Four + Icon One, or Alpha Four + Ultra Epi?

Want to utilize these as a “base” for an upcoming cycle since my source for inj test disappeared practically overnight. Seems like a good opportunity to try out a couple offerings from the black series.

Thoughts/recommendations appreciated
For a test base; A4 + UE for me definitely.
 
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Well generally how these black series products are dosed, I consider 3 pumps to be the minimum. So 3 pumps is a worth a try. Last time I ran UH I wanted the bottle to last, so I did 4 pumps on WO days and 3 pumps on other days. It was a part of a stack and I feel like the dosing scheme was fine.
I'll give that a try. Sounds like a good protocol cheers!
 

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Question? I am 2wk from finishing 8wk of StanoPlex, I added Alpha7 week 5. Would it be ok to go another 4 weeks with Alpha7 after dropping StanoPlex? I have been using M-Test and cycle assist the whole time and would continue.
 
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I’ve done longer cycles in the last. You can but I would watch how it effects you.
 
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I know you guys probably got hammered on orders over the 4th, but can I have an update on Order - IF-3882 or an eta on when should expect it to ship out! Thanks!
 
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I know you guys probably got hammered on orders over the 4th, but can I have an update on Order - IF-3882 or an eta on when should expect it to ship out! Thanks!
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Do you guys have any fat loss transdermals that don’t cause suppression?
 
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Do you guys have any fat loss transdermals that don’t cause suppression?
Not yet, evomuse and MPA probably have the best options right now
 
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I'm about 5 weeks into an UH cycle and about last week I started having sleep issues. I will say I'm not sure if it's because it's due to the UH or because it's been so hot as of late and my room is in the direct view of the sun from afternoon to sundown and turns into an oven, but even in the first two weeks of it I didn't have sleep issues.

I use it in the morning-ish (about 9-10am), using about 5 pumps each day.
 
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I will put out more information shortly - but we are being forced to discontinue the use of 4-dhea and 1-dhea ... this means Icon One and Alpha Four will be discontinued we have less than 30 days to clear our inventories.
 
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I will put out more information shortly - but we are being forced to discontinue the use of 4-dhea and 1-dhea ... this means Icon One and Alpha Four will be discontinued we have less than 30 days to clear our inventories.
= (

Is this something that conserns Alpha Gainz too?
 
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all will be gone
 
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Is it due to Hi-Tech?
It does involve HTP's stance on us making gels with their patented ingredients. As such, we are no longer allowed to license them.
 
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Would a high dosed androsterone or 3ad be something you’d be allowed to do?
 
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I will put out more information shortly - but we are being forced to discontinue the use of 4-dhea and 1-dhea ... this means Icon One and Alpha Four will be discontinued we have less than 30 days to clear our inventories.
What about Alpha Seven and Ultra Hard??
 
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I will put out more information shortly - but we are being forced to discontinue the use of 4-dhea and 1-dhea ... this means Icon One and Alpha Four will be discontinued we have less than 30 days to clear our inventories.
this is really sad...alpha four was a favorite of mine-loved that stuff!!!
 

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