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HD2 and MFX results?

How were your results?

  • 0: This stack is an expensive placebo

    Votes: 13 11.5%

  • 1

    Votes: 4 3.5%

  • 2

    Votes: 2 1.8%

  • 3

    Votes: 4 3.5%

  • 4

    Votes: 1 0.9%

  • 5: Not bad...not great...soso

    Votes: 31 27.4%

  • 6

    Votes: 7 6.2%

  • 7

    Votes: 17 15.0%

  • 8

    Votes: 13 11.5%

  • 9

    Votes: 12 10.6%

  • 10: I owe everything that I have in life to this stack

    Votes: 9 8.0%
  • Total voters
    113

Beige

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Just wondering how your results were with this stack. I've already done the NHA stack and EVO stack, so I figured I might as well do this one. I have experience with both AAS and natural anabolics, so I know a rough ballpark of what to expect, just wondering how you made out. Maybe you could also post if you ate at least halfway decent with this stack (I watch my diet), how this compared to other natural anabolic stacks you've run, and what differences in the mirror, in the gym, and in mood and libido you noticed. I'd hate to take away any attention from the 3-ad craze, but I'm sure we all already know that it will be a great product, and that ergopharm wishes that it was ballin like AX.
 
im interested as well in the results.i been on it for 3 weeks and i really like how it makes me feel. the bad thing is that i been injured for 1 week :(
 
I'm starting my MassFX/HDX2/Retain2 tomorrow! What do you guys think are the best times to dose?
 
rpen22 said:
I'm starting my MassFX/HDX2/Retain2 tomorrow! What do you guys think are the best times to dose?
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i personally dose it this way

morning with breakfast HDX2/MassFX/retain

afternoon with lunch HDX2/MassFX

preworkout with a small protein shake HDX2/MassFX/retain

last dose at dinner time HDX2/MassFX/retain
 
Zombie said:
i personally dose it this way

morning with breakfast HDX2/MassFX/retain

afternoon with lunch HDX2/MassFX

preworkout with a small protein shake HDX2/MassFX/retain

last dose at dinner time HDX2/MassFX/retain
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:clap2: only thing i would change/suggest is to take 2 pills of FX pre-workout! that makes for some pretty intense lifting sessions!


You guys are all so knowledgeable, AX is gonna fire me, i'm no longer needed!:rant:

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It would help if it was a public pole, where you can see who voted for what. Any way to change it?

I'll be using Torem/Mass Fx/Retain 2/IGF-2/RPM in 3 weeks when I stop taking Epi! :thumbsup:
 
I'm only 1 week in and am surprised at the muscle hardening and pumps. I really didn't expect to feel anything until after week one.
 
I'm in my second week so far, and the most notable change I've seen so far is a greatly welcomed drop in water weight from the HD2. I naturally hold a ridiculous amount of water because of high estrogen, especially after the post-contest rebound from March, so I can tell the HD2 is doing it's thing for sure.
 
rpen22 said:
I'm in my second week so far, and the most notable change I've seen so far is a greatly welcomed drop in water weight from the HD2. I naturally hold a ridiculous amount of water because of high estrogen, especially after the post-contest rebound from March, so I can tell the HD2 is doing it's thing for sure.
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are you using 4-5 HD2 caps ??? if more how are your joints?
 
supersoldier said:
Have you noticed anything from the Cissus? Elbow any better?
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well i have noticed that it takes longer for the pain to kick in. when i wasnt taking it it would hurt all day i would have to do DB curls with that hand with 15's and it would hurt like hell now i can go to 40 and it hurt but i cant stand the pain and the pain doesnt work up his way to the shoulder anymore un less i do heavy chest (Barbell 225 or higher im not doing any DB excersice for chest till my elbow gets better). now it only hurts from mid-routine to like 1 hr after the workout is over.
 
Zombie said:
are you using 4-5 HD2 caps ??? if more how are your joints?
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I'm at 5 HD2 caps per day, but my joints are pretty much the same as before, plus I'm taking Supercissus also. My knee's been bothering me a little, but I don't attribute that to the HD2 as I believe it started before the HD2. I'm thinking about going up to 6 HD2/day pretty soon, just to see how it goes, same with the MFX. I was taking 4 caps(max dose) of Novedex XT/day for 8 weeks pre-contest, and I never really experienced any joint pain that I thought was caused by the ATD so we'll see how it goes with higher dosed 6-Bromo.
 
@ Zombie and rpen22

Have you used other Cissus products, or bulk cissus? Do you think the Super Cissus Rx is better than others?
 
supersoldier said:
@ Zombie and rpen22

Have you used other Cissus products, or bulk cissus? Do you think the Super Cissus Rx is better than others?
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i have uses Cissus RX and SuperCissus. i want to try bulk cissus.


Cissus RX: for me it took almost 2 weeks to kick in but after it kicked in it was great.

SUperCIssus: it kicked it faster for me, and at a high dose even faster. the pain relief on this extract is better. i wanted to try the bulk cissus but since i wanted to get rid of the pain on my elbow.

its not my first bottle of SC its my 3rd bottle but its been months since i used it prior this. when it came out i grabbed 2 bottles and used them at 3 caps per day till i run out.

i would like to try in the near future AN CIssus product Osteobolin-C to see the diference if theres any other than the added vitamin c
 
I agree with Zombie about liking Supercissus better than rest, even Cissus RX, however I really like both of USP's products. I've tried bulk before, but I switched back to capped mainly out of convenience, but the bulk didn't work as well as the SC does, IMO.
 
I am starting my third week on this stack and the biggest differance I can tell so far is wrist pain. Now I'm taking 2 hx2, 2 mfx, 1 r2, and 1 super cissus three times a day. 30 min. before breakfast, pre workout and at bed time. I am thinking of splitting up the first dose 1 ofeach before breakfast and 1 at lunch. Its tough going from SD to aas down to non hormonal. You tend to have a little higher hopes! I believe they are working but I want to gain 10lbs in 3 wks. jk kinda!:icon_lol: :fool2:
 
Jstedt said:
I am starting my third week on this stack and the biggest differance I can tell so far is wrist pain. Now I'm taking 2 hx2, 2 mfx, 1 r2, and 1 super cissus three times a day. 30 min. before breakfast, pre workout and at bed time. I am thinking of splitting up the first dose 1 ofeach before breakfast and 1 at lunch. Its tough going from superdrol to anabolic steroids down to non hormonal. You tend to have a little higher hopes! I believe they are working but I want to gain 10lbs in 3 wks. jk kinda!:icon_lol: :fool2:
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why are you still taking 2 HD and 2 FX in week 3? recommended dose is 4 of each.........
 
I wanted to make a whole thread for this but hopefully enough people will see this here...
I was never a huge AX fan. Truthfully I thought that they were given too much credit. However now as I am reaching the end of a two bottle (each) cycle of HD2 and MFX I can assure any of you that this company makes the real deal. I'm not the type to brag about taking AAS and prohormones and then compare them to a non-hormonal stack (cough JstedT cough), but comming into this cycle with only moderate hopes at best I have been blown away. With the market being flooded with these non-hormonal stacks that make rediculous claims of gains this is the first I've taken that delivered 100%. If I had the money right now (just lost my job) Nutraplanet would be sending me another bottle of each right now.:thumbsup:
 
thats good to hear. I just ordered a bottle of each. Plan on doing a 4 week cycle. If I feel good about the results I will plan for an 8 weeker a month or two down the road.
 
I hve a bottle of msfx and hdx2 for my post cycle therapy after my epi pulse. Looking forward to it :)
 
Trust me dudes, I haven't been this pleasantly surprised since DS came out with the NHA stack...in fact I might have even gotten better results with this stuff.
 
Sorry to those who think I am bragging about my ph/aas use (cough beige cough) but I was merely making a point. I am neither proud or ashamed of what I have done. I hope you feel better though trying to make me look boastful for what I have done. I hate that my honesty has made people think I was bragging. All I was saying is that they are not magic pills. I am only on week 3 right now and from everyone else's logs I have read I was expecting a little more. I also knoe there is a chance I am a non-responder. I stand 100% behind all ax products that is why I have bought enough to finish a 12 week cycle. Oh and beige don't be jealous that I am honest and not ashamed!! :drunk: :rofl:
 
LOL no harm no foul bro...I'm just used to a different calibur of person so I guess that I miss judged you. Good luck with the stack. I started noticing most of the difference at the end of my first bottles, so give it a little more time and I'm sure you'll be surprised (it kinda just crept up on me). IMHO you made a good choice though because in my objective experience with the recent releases in NH stacks this one will give you more of what you want if you enjoy anabolics.
On a related topic; how are people doing with upped doses of this stack? And/or has anybody else tried to stack this with Powerfull? I found that the Powerfull helped a lot with the strength gains almost immediately.
 
I have not tried pwerfull but I might add it to this stack. I should be getting my last order of the ultimate stack to make this at least an 8 week cycle. I was going to do 12 wks but dosing 6 each a day I can't afford. I was going to send the new order back in exchange for something else but I'd hate to start seeing results as soon as I sent it back. I'm just gonna stick with it. Thanks Bro!!

Jstedt:bruce3:
 
neoborn said:
I hve a bottle of msfx and hdx2 for my post cycle therapy after my epi pulse. Looking forward to it :)
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This is what I have been looking for...thankyou. I want to go from the Ultimate Cycle + Retain2 (4 weeks total, 2 weeks in and loving it) into a Epistane cycle (4 weeks). Am I reading you correctly that you are doing the same thing just reversed in the order you take the different cycles? Would there be a reason why not to take them in the order I listed?
 
Taking them before shouldn't hurt or complement your epi cycle. However you should try picking up another bottle of Retain2 to go with your SERM in pct. Neoborn is doing this after his cycle to "naturally" bring himself back to hormonal normality along with a SERM (I'm guessing he's taking one because he's pretty prominant on this board and seems to have this PCT thing down pat). Some people like taking test boosters and estrogen control (i.e. HD2 and MFX) post cycle. This should be secondary though in relation to your SERM and cort blocker (retain2).
 
Beige said:
Taking them before shouldn't hurt or complement your epi cycle. However you should try picking up another bottle of Retain2 to go with your SERM in post cycle therapy. Neoborn is doing this after his cycle to "naturally" bring himself back to hormonal normality along with a SERM (I'm guessing he's taking one because he's pretty prominant on this board and seems to have this PCT thing down pat). Some people like taking test boosters and estrogen control (i.e. HD2 and MFX) post cycle. This should be secondary though in relation to your SERM and cort blocker (retain2).
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:goodpost:
 
I try. All I can say is that I wish I had given your company a fair shake a year ago when I really started taking this stuff seriously. At the end of this month it will be a year exactly and I've put on 90 (yes 90) lbs! I'd say that I'm at about 10 or 12 percent BF today, and have been able to cut up and build over the last month and a half thanks to you guys. Never before (without more harmful compounds) have I had the ability to cut up and gain strength at the same time with such effectiveness. Can't wait for future releases...yeah you know the one!!!
 
Beige said:
I try. All I can say is that I wish I had given your company a fair shake a year ago when I really started taking this stuff seriously. At the end of this month it will be a year exactly and I've put on 90 (yes 90) lbs! I'd say that I'm at about 10 or 12 percent BF today, and have been able to cut up and build over the last month and a half thanks to you guys. Never before (without more harmful compounds) have I had the ability to cut up and gain strength at the same time with such effectiveness. Can't wait for future releases...yeah you know the one!!!
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:clap2: there is WAY more planned for the last quarter of the year..............you should be VERY PLEASED! :thumbsup:
 
Beige said:
Taking them before shouldn't hurt or complement your epi cycle. However you should try picking up another bottle of Retain2 to go with your SERM in post cycle therapy. Neoborn is doing this after his cycle to "naturally" bring himself back to hormonal normality along with a SERM (I'm guessing he's taking one because he's pretty prominant on this board and seems to have this PCT thing down pat). Some people like taking test boosters and estrogen control (i.e. HD2 and MFX) post cycle. This should be secondary though in relation to your SERM and cort blocker (retain2).
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Thankyou...I am loaded down on serms and other protective supps.(I have been taking cycle support for a few weeks and am going to continue) All I need is another bottle of Retain and it sounds like I am good to go. The PCT protocol and support supps is something I have pulled off this very site, so thanks guys.
 
Beige said:
Neoborn is doing this after his cycle to "naturally" bring himself back to hormonal normality along with a SERM (I'm guessing he's taking one because he's pretty prominant on this board and seems to have this PCT thing down pat).
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I wanted to add that I am going to be doing a longer pulse based cycle as this apparently cuts sides alot and then I can do a MassFX / HDX2 PCT. I am going to put DR.D's theory to the test. I have all my bloodwork done, plus a complete thyroid panel. Also I could most likely go to a local store and pic up a SERM if emergency requires it....wouldn't mind DD's anyhoo :D ( Iz jok I mayk jok ).

Please do not ever take anything I say as law or medical advice, educate yourself fully and talk to multiple long term members / users they can truly help you achieve more.

I say the above because I don't want you to base your cycle on only knowledge that I may give, remember currently I am a PH / PS / AAS virgin. That's right I have not done any of this stuff, but I have read quite a bit and put together a few helpful threads for some products / protocols.

If you need links to people with EPI logs just use the search and read / talk to them they are the true warriors :)

Much Love,

<3 Neoborn <3
 
neoborn said:
I wanted to add that I am going to be doing a longer pulse based cycle as this apparently cuts sides alot and then I can do a MassFX / HDX2 post cycle therapy. I am going to put DR.D's theory to the test. I have all my bloodwork done, plus a complete thyroid panel. Also I could most likely go to a local store and pic up a SERM if emergency requires it....wouldn't mind DD's anyhoo :D ( Iz jok I mayk jok ).

Please do not ever take anything I say as law or medical advice, educate yourself fully and talk to multiple long term members / users they can truly help you achieve more.

I say the above because I don't want you to base your cycle on only knowledge that I may give, remember currently I am a PH / PS / anabolic steroids virgin. That's right I have not done any of this stuff, but I have read quite a bit and put together a few helpful threads for some products / protocols.

If you need links to people with EPI logs just use the search and read / talk to them they are the true warriors :)

Much Love,

<3 Neoborn <3
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I am not sure if you were talking to me, but I have read as many logs as I can find I just had not seen the protocol I was asking about. I am like you, I am very new to all this and tend to just read alot before hand, its like I am nervous or something, it takes me forever to actually take something... haha. I too get regular blood work and I am very aware of my health status and the cool thing is I can talk to my docotor about anything I want to try... Anyhow goodluck.
 
Before and after AX stack, pics, BF% estimate?

I just finished the stack. It was very good, started feeling the effects about the middle of the second week. Now that I have ended it though, Iam always hungry as hell. The main thing that it did for me was cut me up a bit more, I dont believe it added any mass at all. Here are some pictures you be the judge, What do you guys think my fat % is now. Iam about to start a cycle of Havoc, that is the only reason I did 30 days worth of AX.

2008-04-17 after AX stack 189 lbs
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2008-03-06 Before AX stack 191 lbs
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spshond said:
I just finished the stack. It was very good, started feeling the effects about the middle of the second week. Now that I have ended it though, Iam always hungry as hell. The main thing that it did for me was cut me up a bit more, I dont believe it added any mass at all. Here are some pictures you be the judge, What do you guys think my fat % is now. Iam about to start a cycle of Havoc, that is the only reason I did 30 days worth of AX.

2008-04-17 after AX stack 189 lbs
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2008-03-06 Before AX stack 191 lbs
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seems like there was no Mass from the Massfx for u bro! it hasnt really cut u up or gained u any muscle - u lost a couple of pounds but u could have done a much more effective cut without an expensive NH stack thats for sure... did u change ur diet at all?

must admit all i seemed to get from massfx was some nausea and not much else....:frustrate
 
Well, sorry to hear that you fellas didn't quite get what you were looking for. I mean no offense by this, but did y'all realize that we've got people on staff that can assist with each and every part of your workout and diet plan? Sometimes there's something off that you may not realize. We're always here and very happy to pick apart every single portion of your life to analyze what could be better. It's just one thing that we love to do!!

Of course, we also realize that everyone is different and results from one extremely successful case may not be typical of everyone. Supplements are supplemental - without everything else, you're just sitting on the couch watching tv, eating cheetos and watchin' cartoons! :lol:

If anyone ever needs the help, you know we're here for it. Some call it customer service. I like to think of it as helpin a brutha out. :D :cheers:
 
I can tell you this, while I was on the stack, I did see some results in regards to thinning out, waist went down and it definitely controlled my hunger pains. As soon as I came off and then wated 2 weeks prior to my havoc cycle, boy was I hungry.
 
Hey Tim,
Its Will, Thanks for helping me with picking up supps and trying a new protein. I have not started taking the cycle yet cause I got sick so wanted to get back to being 100% first before I start. The protein you told me about is top notch and I saved money. I cant say enough good things about your "helpin a brutha out" method wish other companies where like you guys. Ill email you and let you know how everything goes. Thanks bro.
Will Costa
 
oh I forgot to ask, I only got 4 week cycle (Mass Fx+HX2) should I just get another set to make it a 8 week cycle. Or should I just see how my body reacts to the 4 weeks first. Also going to follow up with Lean X. Hope that made sence. Thanks.
 
I would get some more and run it longer... from personal experience and what ive seen which others a 2-3 month cycle is what yields the best results
 
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