GYNO REBOUND AFTER STOPPING TAMOXIFEN.

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I was on tamoxifen because I have had gyno for a few years now and it got to the point where it was visible in shirts always and hurting.

The tamoxifen was working very well, I was on it for about a year, my gyno was shrunk and it wasn’t sensitive at all.

I quit tamoxifen a few months ago because the cognitive symptoms were terrible. I couldn’t think, remember and I just felt like I had a brain disability.

Anyways my right nipple blew up and the gyno rebound is terrible and bigger than ever.

I recently started using ralox, anyone have luck with ralox for gyno?

I have been on TRT since 2018, 180mg/wk.
 
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No personal experiencd with Ralox, but it is the way to go with gyno issues/protection. If Tamox knocked it down, I will assume Ralox will do it as well, and with less sides.

Did you taper off the Tamox? You should do that with the Ralox, when you discontinue the use. And maybe want to check hormonal levels, when you're coming off and/or come off with an AI. Since your gyno flared back up after you came off of the Tamox, it means you had a hormonal enviroment for gyno growth. Maybe due to the Tamox, maybe something else.
 
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Yes Ralox works well too

Get the gyno back under control using the Nolva or Ralox and then once you have it gone, use a very low dose AI.

I use Exemestane myself and with my clients. We do a mega low dose. 6.25mgs EOD or E3d keeps away pregyno or gyno

Your body has proven that you are sensitive to Gyno. Some people run HRT and never ever need an AI.

In your case you do and always will. You will need to use it even if you do PCT and come off fyi.
 
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agree with an AI after SERM. in a lot of people, you can see a brutal rebound after you come of the SERM.

technically what happens is: you are taking nolva, its occupying the estro receptor which can make circulating estro high. as soon as you quit the SERM, the body all of the sudden senses a large influx of estrogens and in a desperate attempt to normalize, test usually skyrockets. the abundance of test is aromatizing > now even more estrogen in the system. problems ensue.
 
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I always prefer using a SERM/ AI combo when trying to combat gyno. The reason being you need less of each drug to achieve the end result and you can adjust the dosage of each to keep side effects minimal.

Ralox takes much longer to actually bind enough to receptors where as Nolva is the fastest and most selective to breast tissue. But at the end of the day like @KvanH already mentioned there is a hormonal imbalance at play. Referring to/ getting your blood work done should be priority.

However if everything looks good on your blood work and gyno is still present then it could be an accumulation of estrogen at the receptors. Since estrogen had an affinity for breast tissue. I would personally check bloods first and go from there. If everything is in range then throw the SERM/ AI combo in the mix and see if symptoms improve. Now at that point if gyno is still present then I would reccomend, just personally if this was me. To get off test completely as any additional estrogen in the body is going to bind to breast tissue as estrogen has this affinity. I would recommend trying this only as a last resort. Full pct with Serms/ AI/ test boosters and then after your hormonal balance is restored you can jump back on TRT but of course keep the SERM/ AI combo in the mix
 
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No personal experiencd with Ralox, but it is the way to go with gyno issues/protection. If Tamox knocked it down, I will assume Ralox will do it as well, and with less sides.

Did you taper off the Tamox? You should do that with the Ralox, when you discontinue the use. And maybe want to check hormonal levels, when you're coming off and/or come off with an AI. Since your gyno flared back up after you came off of the Tamox, it means you had a hormonal enviroment for gyno growth. Maybe due to the Tamox, maybe something else.

Bloodwork was great, E2 was at the top end of the ref range. I did taper off tamox, and boom gyno rebound like crazy.
 
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Yes Ralox works well too

Get the gyno back under control using the Nolva or Ralox and then once you have it gone, use a very low dose AI.

I use Exemestane myself and with my clients. We do a mega low dose. 6.25mgs EOD or E3d keeps away pregyno or gyno

Your body has proven that you are sensitive to Gyno. Some people run HRT and never ever need an AI.

In your case you do and always will. You will need to use it even if you do PCT and come off fyi.
my clinic prescribes Arimidex, I’ll try that (1/4th pill) with the ralox to see if it helps!

Tamox worked great besides feeling like I had a brain disorder lol
 
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agree with an AI after SERM. in a lot of people, you can see a brutal rebound after you come of the SERM.

technically what happens is: you are taking nolva, its occupying the estro receptor which can make circulating estro high. as soon as you quit the SERM, the body all of the sudden senses a large influx of estrogens and in a desperate attempt to normalize, test usually skyrockets. the abundance of test is aromatizing > now even more estrogen in the system. problems ensue.
Ill add in my AI very carefully with the ralox
 
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I always prefer using a SERM/ AI combo when trying to combat gyno. The reason being you need less of each drug to achieve the end result and you can adjust the dosage of each to keep side effects minimal.

Ralox takes much longer to actually bind enough to receptors where as Nolva is the fastest and most selective to breast tissue. But at the end of the day like @KvanH already mentioned there is a hormonal imbalance at play. Referring to/ getting your blood work done should be priority.

However if everything looks good on your blood work and gyno is still present then it could be an accumulation of estrogen at the receptors. Since estrogen had an affinity for breast tissue. I would personally check bloods first and go from there. If everything is in range then throw the SERM/ AI combo in the mix and see if symptoms improve. Now at that point if gyno is still present then I would reccomend, just personally if this was me. To get off test completely as any additional estrogen in the body is going to bind to breast tissue as estrogen has this affinity. I would recommend trying this only as a last resort. Full pct with Serms/ AI/ test boosters and then after your hormonal balance is restored you can jump back on TRT but of course keep the SERM/ AI combo in the mix
Bloodwork is great, everything is in range. I had it totally under control with tamoxifen I just couldn’t do with the sides any more. I’ll try ralox with a small dose of my AI
 
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Bloodwork is great, everything is in range. I had it totally under control with tamoxifen I just couldn’t do with the sides any more. I’ll try ralox with a small dose of my AI
you need to search "Ralox gyno reversal protocol" / there is a specific dosing schedual that effectively will kill the gynoz
 
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Bloodwork is great, everything is in range. I had it totally under control with tamoxifen I just couldn’t do with the sides any more. I’ll try ralox with a small dose of my AI
I wouldn't drop the Nolvadex personally. Ralox can really take a few weeks to start working. I would try 10 mg of Nolvadex with 60 mg Ralox with your AI
 
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I wouldn't drop the Nolvadex personally. Ralox can really take a few weeks to start working. I would try 10 mg of Nolvadex with 60 mg Ralox with your AI
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I’m telling you haha, I was doing 5mg a day and I still felt like I was disabled. I can’t do it. I feel like i can’t think at all on it. Feel like a veg haha
 

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