Friends first cycle

[ripped22]

I am well stocked up and am going to hook him up before the ban.
This is what I recommend him for his 5 weeker. Keep in mind he is
5'10" 250 about apprrox. 15%bf.

weeks 1-2 M1,4AD 80mg
weeks 1-5 3g 1-t/6g 4ad trans
weeks 3-5 16 mgs M-OHN maybe some pre workout MDHT as well??

4 weeks nolva and trib

His goal is to cut 15 lbs and gain mass.
Most of the weight loss will attribute to
diet. I know the M1,4add will bloat but
he wants to gain mass so I figured gaining
a little weight in the begining will reap greater
overall gains in the end.



any suggestions?

 

[kwyckemynd00]

As long as he's not worried about bloat while on, the m1,4add isn't a problem, IMHO.

It all sounds good for a first cycle though.

But, for his first cycle, 5'10" 240lbs, 15% bf is pretty damn good...guy must have some pretty good genetics

now, cutting 15lbs of fat isn't going to be easy if 4 weeks. 10lbs is probably more attainable with a great dieat and some cardio. keep us updated, i'm interested to see how this turns out.

 

[ripped22]

yeah this guy is huge naturally. he shoulder presses
225 for like 15 reps. His problem is that he is too thick no
real definition. Every time he tries to cut he loses his strenght
and endurance. This discourages him and he quits. So I mentioned
trying a cut on a PH cycle.

 

[kwyckemynd00]

yeah this guy is huge naturally. he shoulder presses
225 for like 15 reps. His problem is that he is too thick no
real definition. Every time he tries to cut he loses his strenght
and endurance. This discourages him and he quits. So I mentioned
trying a cut on a PH cycle.

crazy...hopefully all will work out well for him.

 

[donk]

Run the M4OHN the whole time since it takes 2 weeks to notice it. Save the M1,4AD for another time. I weigh 230 and am around 14%bf and the m4ohn made veins pop out on my bi's and forearms I have never seen even when I was at 10-11%bf.

 

[Longdog]

He should have no problem cutting 15lbs of fat while still adding mass in only 5 weeks. It's so easy to do, why not shoot for 20lbs?

Sorry, but that's just not possible. The cycle sounds good, but I suggest you give the guy some realistic goals. I would also extend the cycle to 6-8 weeks, 5 weeks is not very long for a cutter. Only 3 weeks of M4OHN will probably not do anything.

 

[Josey Wales]

Also, I think if you poke around this site you'll find that many will say that 16mg/day of 4OHN is not very much. At 240lbs your friend may need more 16mg/mg to see some real benefit from it.