FORMERON 2024

brundel said:
Will work great for this. You will get an increase in testosterone beyond what you are presently seeing. IN addition you will get some aromatase inhibition and a SH&%T ton of anabolism.
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Now you've gotten my attention. This just went from a "I'll probably try this at some point." supplement to a "I definitely have to buy this when it's officially released." product.
 
I feel like my order from strong that came in last night is missing something….
 

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Afi140 said:
I feel like my order from strong that came in last night is missing something….
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Are you a big androgin fan? I haven't gotten a change to give it a run since I haven't seen too many reviews about it but it seems like a very interesting product. Could you please talk a little about the effects you get from it?
 
Shadowblaze said:
Are you a big androgin fan? I haven't gotten a change to give it a run since I haven't seen too many reviews about it but it seems like a very interesting product. Could you please talk a little about the effects you get from it?
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Its a good mass builder / made me hungry and great for strength. And you get the best sleep with it as well. I use it in the winter (in Canada) for this very reason.
 
brundel said:
Will work great for this. You will get an increase in testosterone beyond what you are presently seeing. IN addition you will get some aromatase inhibition and a SH&%T ton of anabolism.
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What do you think about pairing this with mk677? I was gonna start taking mk677 and enclo with a budy of mine but if you have formeron releasing and it doesn't come with the side effects that enclo has like lowering igf1 and vision changes, we'll buy your entire stock!
 
Shadowblaze said:
What do you think about pairing this with mk677? I was gonna start taking mk677 and enclo with a budy of mine but if you have formeron releasing and it doesn't come with the side effects that enclo has like lowering igf1 and vision changes, we'll buy your entire stock!
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I think itll be insane with MK677. You will get less water retention because of the AI activity which is great because for most MK677 causes a ton of water retention. So far we havnt seen any negative side effects. 0. You will get I would say similar anabolic potential to a SARM or lighter PH. Its not gonna be like DMZ or SD or something like this as its not an active anabolic steroid but.....We tested each anabolic ingredient for 90 days and each one was good by itself. Meaning there was muscle growth, strength etc from just the single ingredient. And we combined the 3 with 2 AIs. So 5 actives. Also why it takes 8ml....Lots of active ingredients and some are stubborn.
 
This isnt a perfect image as I made it on a computer so not at all to scale.....but this is about what it should look like.
The labels will have our matte black with spot uv gloss like the rest of the line.
this is just a quick render.
Got some 20 gallon drums today for mixing the Formeron in.
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We have been using the airless pump bottles for Exotherm and they work well but the pumps are sometimes inconsistent. I want to make sure that the pumps are perfect. We are using a 1.2ml pump.
I looked at all of the reviews for ours and other brands topicals and one of the primary complaints is the pumps not working well. So these are bulletproof. I tested about 20 pumps before landing on these. They dont look like the above image but similar. They are super smooth and consistent with the pump volume.
 
brundel said:
We have been using the airless pump bottles for Exotherm and they work well but the pumps are sometimes inconsistent. I want to make sure that the pumps are perfect. We are using a 1.2ml pump.
I looked at all of the reviews for ours and other brands topicals and one of the primary complaints is the pumps not working well. So these are bulletproof. I tested about 20 pumps before landing on these. They dont look like the above image but similar. They are super smooth and consistent with the pump volume.
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Thinking ahead; I appreciate the attention to detail here. Gonna save a lot of headaches hopefully down the road.
 
brundel said:
We have been using the airless pump bottles for Exotherm and they work well but the pumps are sometimes inconsistent. I want to make sure that the pumps are perfect. We are using a 1.2ml pump.
I looked at all of the reviews for ours and other brands topicals and one of the primary complaints is the pumps not working well. So these are bulletproof. I tested about 20 pumps before landing on these. They dont look like the above image but similar. They are super smooth and consistent with the pump volume.
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Is Exotherm changing to these new pumps aswell?
 
alvin1 said:
How it will compare to Letrone?
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Letrone is a great AI and increases HGH but this will be MUCH more anabolic. MOre like a PH than an AI.
If your goal is to manage estrogen I would say Letrone.
If your goal is to build muscle and strength I would say Formeron.
 
mase1 said:
Any thoughts on spreading 8mL? Easy to spread that much?
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So far we have had no complaints. It sounds like alot but if you split it into 2 doses its not bad. 3 pumps twice a day. 1.2ml pump. will be 7.2ml. Or you can do an additional pump for 8.3ml
 
Just a quick update.
This is a compilation of the texts from tester A
Keep in mind that increased testosterone is more if a bonus. The primary anabolic effects are not from testosterone.

Hey x̌xxxcc! I was going to reach back out to you today. I just applied the last 4ml. I noticed on day 5 the effects significantly kicked in!
My training in the gym on Thursday and Friday was stellar with heavier weights and more endurance.
I've a noticeable pump in my arms and shoulders also since then, and overall I've had that alpha male, driven attitude. The aching in the testes has been reduced and was barely noticeable yesterday. I can most definitely notice a difference in just 1 week.
The muscle fullness is very pronounced. Reminds me of LGD
many signs of increased testosterone.
havnt supplemented with testosterone since 2014, this feels incredible so far. also recovery has been reduced.
I've noticed is I just feel great, which is hard to quantify.
Hi xxxx! So day 10 update: I've noticed more of a dry/leaning effect and still a pronounced overall muscle fullness.
Well I've felt pretty darn good,
Man, the post workout pump I've had all night is surreal
libido is fire.
This does remind me of the original formula's hardening effects
Definitely no water retention.
LOVE IT!
Hi! Well after 2 weeks now I'm feeling great! Post workout pumps are excellent along with a consistent upper back pump all day long. I've been in a calorie surplus and lifting consistently, so we'll see how everything evolves. No side effects as of yet
Day 17 and going strong! I've definitely noticed a leaning effect and increased test.
Yeah, noticeable recomp/hardening effects with a significant calorie surplus. Last couple of days I've noticed a couple small cold/canker sores, which I've historically seen with hormones. Endurance has been solid
The leaning/hardening effect alone is killer
All day pumps as well. Life is good ;).
 
BBiceps said:
Any news on when this will be released?
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The labels are taking forever to arrive. They come from overseas. This allows us to use super nice labels for less but they sometimes take a while to get here. We are already making the Formeron.
 
brundel said:
The labels are taking forever to arrive. They come from overseas. This allows us to use super nice labels for less but they sometimes take a while to get here. We are already making the Formeron.
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Cool, I’m interested in this one, good luck and keep us updated.
 
I don't know if you guys have read what I posted yet but one of the primary extracts we are using was compared to testosterone and dianabol and was more powerful as an anabolic agent.
Contains 20hydroxyecdy and...some other rare ecdys. And a bunch of other potential anabolic compounds. Even things like apigenin, quercetin, kampferol and their conjugated.

We extracted all of these from the material and have them in solution in the mix. Among other things.
 
brundel said:
I don't know if you guys have read what I posted yet but one of the primary extracts we are using was compared to testosterone and dianabol and was more powerful as an anabolic agent.
Contains 20hydroxyecdy and...some other rare ecdys. And a bunch of other potential anabolic compounds. Even things like apigenin, quercetin, kampferol and their conjugated.

We extracted all of these from the material and have them in solution in the mix. Among other
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How many ingredients are going to be in formeron in total? I think you mentioned it a while ago but I don't recall how many.
 
brundel said:
I don't know if you guys have read what I posted yet but one of the primary extracts we are using was compared to testosterone and dianabol and was more powerful as an anabolic agent.
Contains 20hydroxyecdy and...some other rare ecdys. And a bunch of other potential anabolic compounds. Even things like apigenin, quercetin, kampferol and their conjugated.

We extracted all of these from the material and have them in solution in the mix. Among other things.
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I’m not asking you to make any official claims, because this is simply a topical muscle enhancement product of course, but it sounds like there may be some potential fringe antioxidant and health benefits with this product based on some of those ingredients as well?
 
Shadowblaze said:
How many ingredients are going to be in formeron in total? I think you mentioned it a while ago but I don't recall how many.
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6 but keep in mind that 2 of them are extracted from dried extracts. Meaning the Atriplex for example has dozens of chemicals present. I know for certain that each of the extracts have at least 3 ingredients within the clinical range/dose. For example the ecdysteroids as it was standardized specifically for these.
Atractylodes we standardize for atractylenolides. There are 3 of those among others like atractylodin.
So 6 listed. But much more. This is part of the magic of cosmetic/topicals. We dont have to really tell on the label specifics of extracts so it helps us hide the formula a bit from competitors while still being transparent.
 
Hyde said:
I’m not asking you to make any official claims, because this is simply a topical muscle enhancement product of course, but it sounds like there may be some potential fringe antioxidant and health benefits with this product based on some of those ingredients as well?
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Absolutely, if you look over just the chemicals present in atriplex its pretty awesome. I should also mention that I havnt posted all the ingredients ;)
 
cgreid3 said:
This sounds great! Any concern for possible hairloss or DHT conversion ?
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I dont know of any reason to be concerned aside from increased test levels and some people do experience hair loss with aromatase inhibitors. But I dont see any compounds that are specifically highly androgenic. IN fact in the study we quoted Atriplex and 20hydroxyecdy both had very low androgenic profiles. They dont bind to androgen receptors and cant convert to dht so. Little concern.
 
brundel said:
ATRIPLEX dimorphostegia

is a plant native to areas of Northern Africa, Xinjiang and western Pakistan.
This plant is chock full of interesting compounds including several Phytoecdysteroids and several known and prospective anabolic actives. This is likely the most interesing new anabolic plant Ive seen in decades. The issue is that many of the actives have really low oral bioavailability but topically they really shine.
A recent study compared a specific extract of this plant to Testosterone and Dianabol with interesting results.
In this study the Atriplex extract was referred to as "TEAD"


Weight gain and muscle mass.
Testosterone and Dianabol both increased the rate of muscle growth by 80%
20-HE by 76% and TEAD by 112%!
(This shows that TEAD had a 32% Greater increase in the rate of muscle growth than both test and Dianabol.)
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Muscle Mass Percentage
The muscle mass percentage was calculated using the mean mass of the muscle bundle of both right and left hindlimbs against the mean final body weight of rats in each group at the end of the study . The group receiving TEAD showed the highest percentage among all groups, two-fold compared to the negative control.
(This meaning TEAD was even better than dianabol or testosterone for muscle mass gain.)
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Conclusions
The Atriplex dimorphostegia extract proved anabolic potency. This was represented by the increase in net muscle mass of gastrocnemius and soleus muscle, as well as an increase in the cross-sectional area of muscle fibers. Moreover, both 20-HE and TEAD exhibited a low androgenic effect on sex organs without increasing the weights of prostate and seminal vesicles of rats after administration for ten consecutive days. These findings indicate that A. dimorphostegia is a promising candidate for use as an anabolic agent.

The study showed that Atriplex (TEAD) was safe and showed no toxicity. They ran molecular modeling tests and confirmes that 20HE (20 hydroxyecdysterone) binds to the estrogen and not the androgen receptor. So the anabolic effects of 20HE at least are not related to androgen receptor binding.

20-HE has really low oral bioavailability but topically its amazing. We utilized the same method used to extract atractylodes for Exotherm to extract this for Formeron.
Without disclosing methods we are pulling all of the active compounds from the dry material and holding them in solution. This allows for a not only the 20HE and other phytoecdysteroids but MANY other compounds- Some of these include=

REF: SOURCE- https://www.mdpi.com/2223-7747/12/1/206

Caffeoyl hexose-deoxyhexoside
Chlorogenic acid derivative
Isoorientin
Apigenin dihexoside
Liquiritin Ferulic acid
Kaempferol deoxyhexoside
Dihydroxy benzoic acid Caffeic acid
Caffeoyl hexose-deoxyhexoside isomer
Quercetin pentosyl hexoside
Rosmarinic acid hexoside
Retusin methyl ether
Tetrahydroxyflavan
Kaempferol
Isorhamnetin
Myricetin
Quercetin
Dihydroxybenzoyl hexose
Coumaroyl hydroxy-palmitic acid
Quercetin-galloyl-pentoside
Coumaroyl-hexose
Kaempferol–dideoxyhexoside
(Kaempferitrin)
Dicaffeoyl-spermidine
Syringetin
rutinoside
Acetylated kaempferol deoxyhexosyl hexoside
Kaempferol deoxyhexosyl hexoside
Isorhamnetin hexoside
Quercetin deoxyhexoside
Apigenin-C-hexoside
Daucosterol
(Sitogluside)
Isorhamnetin deoxhexosyl hexoside
Kaempferol glucuronide
Sinapic acid hexoside
Tamerexetin deoxyhexosyl hexoside
Apigenin-C-hexoside
Caffeoyl-coumaroyl spermidine
β-Sitosterol
Caffeoyl pinoresinol
Tetrahydroxyflavan
Portulasoid
butoxyseptanoside Isorhamnetin
Myricetin
Tetrahydroxyflavan
Ursolic acid
β/α-amyrin
20-hydroxyecdysone
Lupeol
Stigmasterol
Oleonolic acid
Septanoecdysone
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Is the atractylodes extract the same as Atradex/Letrone or is there any difference between the extracts?
 
Ziyo said:
Is the atractylodes extract the same as Atradex/Letrone or is there any difference between the extracts?
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Same original extract but then we refine it further. So the compounds are more dense. And you get different absorption as it's topical so you absorb different percentages than orally. I think you'll be surprised at how powerful this stuff is. I don't just mean the atradex but the whole formula. I'm using it now and it's easily better than version 1. Youll see.
 
ATRIPLEX dimorphostegia

is a plant native to areas of Northern Africa, Xinjiang and western Pakistan.

Those areas are full of crazy, aggressive, hairy, pain tolerant, sexually rapacious dudes. So the plant must have some effect!
 
Cheeky Monkey said:
ATRIPLEX dimorphostegia

is a plant native to areas of Northern Africa, Xinjiang and western Pakistan.

Those areas are full of crazy, aggressive, hairy, pain tolerant, sexually rapacious dudes. So the plant must have some effect!
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Now we know why.
 
brundel said:
Same original extract but then we refine it further. So the compounds are more dense. And you get different absorption as it's topical so you absorb different percentages than orally. I think you'll be surprised at how powerful this stuff is. I don't just mean the atradex but the whole formula. I'm using it now and it's easily better than version 1. Youll see.
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I’ve never had the chance to try the OG FORMERON in spite of seeing great reviews but used Letrone and Exotherm and both are great, but definitely felt better anti-estro effects from Letrone.
What’s the other AI in this formula?
 
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