FORMERON 2024

Im 3 weeks into my Formeron and Androgin run. Weeks 1 and 2 I was doing 6 pumps of Formeron per day and 2 caps of Androgin per day. Since the start of week 3 I am now doing 7 pumps per day and Im taking both caps of Androgin before bed.

Sleep and recovery has been excellent.

So far I’m up 3 lbs i definitely have a more full look in the gym and the pumps are pretty good. I haven’t noticed any dramatic strength improvements yet. I do seem to have a bit more muscle endurance. My libido is definitely up, this is the most noticeable effect so far for me. I did notice some acne side effect the first 2 weeks. The plan is to run this another 5 weeks. I will update if anything significant happens.
 
Anybody applying Formeron on their abs? I've read that DHEA is potent substrate for 11b-HSD. I may try this soon as I've just been applying to shoulders and inner arms.
 
BigGame84 said:
Anybody applying Formeron on their abs? I've read that DHEA is potent substrate for 11b-HSD. I may try this soon as I've just been applying to shoulders and inner arms.
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I haven’t applied a whole pump but I do wipe whatever leftover from my gloves on my midsection
 
In terms of AI, I haven’t had estrogen issues directly but I do feel a bit puffy on formeron, I was hoping for it to be more dry

Haven’t changed my diet and I do appear fuller but also fluffier as well, I was planning to use this for a cut in the spring again but I’ll probably need to add something to midigate that watery look

As far as the results, other than being fuller but softer looking and I’m getting pretty sore each day which I like but also my fitness tracker seems to indicate that I’m recovery really well each morning without any added sleep…i personally would like to see more AI activity to keep the water down, especially if the fullness remained…it’s still early so like any product things may change/improve with continued use
 
Young Gotti said:
In terms of AI, I haven’t had estrogen issues directly but I do feel a bit puffy on formeron, I was hoping for it to be more dry

Haven’t changed my diet and I do appear fuller but also fluffier as well, I was planning to use this for a cut in the spring again but I’ll probably need to add something to midigate that watery look

As far as the results, other than being fuller but softer looking and I’m getting pretty sore each day which I like but also my fitness tracker seems to indicate that I’m recovery really well each morning without any added sleep…i personally would like to see more AI activity to keep the water down, especially if the fullness remained…it’s still early so like any product things may change/improve with continued use
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I still have a bunch of OG Formeron. Maybe I should stack the two?
 
johnl1800 said:
I was already on enclomiphene when I started my first bottle of Formeron. I hadn't noticed any side effects at that time. After reading the above I stopped using the Formeron until I finished the bottle of enclomiphene that I had been using.

I started up on the Formeron on Friday. By Saturday evening I had broken out in horrific and extremely itchy hives on my chest and arms. My forearms in particular, which I had been using to apply the Formeron, were brutal. I didn't think to take a picture at the time but found this online which looks fairly close to what I experienced. My forearms in particular were probably 3x worse than what you see in this picture:

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Needless to say I immediately stopped the Formeron. By Sunday morning it had improved slightly and by Monday morning it was probably 95% better. My first thought when things flared up was that if it didn't improve, or worsened over the course of the week, that it was coincidental and probably had nothing to do with the Formeron and figured that I would try it again in a few weeks.

However the fact that it appeared so suddenly (particularly on the forearms) when the only thing that changed was the addition of the Formeron and the fact that it subsided just as quickly when I stopped using it makes it likely that I had some kind of allergic reaction.

Now since I experienced none of this when I was using Formeron while on enclomiphene means that it's very possible that the enclomiphene was in fact blocking the edcysteroids and it definitely appears that I'm allergic to something in the product. I was seriously considering trying it while on and then later on while off the enclomiphene to see what happens but I'm not all that enthused to go through another 48 hours of severe itching and hives again just out of curiosity.

This sucks of course because I had been looking forward to this product but unfortunately it appears as if it just doesn't agree with me so I'll probably just give the three remaining bottles that I have to one of my friends.
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Could be a response to one of the solvents. Pretty common to have propylene glycol reactions. Can DM me and we can figure something out. Can return the unused ones etc.
 
keemteam said:
Chiming in on the new product- got a presale bottle- I am coming off of 6-7 years of miserable, life changing medical conditions that saw me at my weakest- nothing I did was helping- I certainly had lost the mind muscle connection- I could hardly flex my bicep muscles -i tried- just almost no contraction, no density- 2 weeks into the formeron and I actual "feel muscular". Haven't felt this way in a long while, its hard to explain the exact feeling but it has been worth every penny just for that lone- when I workout now I actual feel somewhat strong again even though the numbers aren't there the effort has improved dramatically- Thanks BLR
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Love this.
 
BigGame84 said:
Yeah, I have a bunch. Not even sure what is left inside the bottles
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Im sure the overall stuff is ok I just dont know how long Formestane stays stable in the solution. Basically its just hand sanitizer and Formestane.
 
Been on for 7 weeks and bench is up 15lbs after being plateaued for almost two years, and all other lifts going up just as fast. no side effects what so ever. Been eating in a surplus and am up 5lbs. This stuff is great, never saw results as intense as this on my many many androgen runs although i still love that product. I’m not on TRT or anything else. New formeron works for me.
 
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johnl1800 said:
I was already on enclomiphene when I started my first bottle of Formeron. I hadn't noticed any side effects at that time. After reading the above I stopped using the Formeron until I finished the bottle of enclomiphene that I had been using.

I started up on the Formeron on Friday. By Saturday evening I had broken out in horrific and extremely itchy hives on my chest and arms. My forearms in particular, which I had been using to apply the Formeron, were brutal. I didn't think to take a picture at the time but found this online which looks fairly close to what I experienced. My forearms in particular were probably 3x worse than what you see in this picture:

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Needless to say I immediately stopped the Formeron. By Sunday morning it had improved slightly and by Monday morning it was probably 95% better. My first thought when things flared up was that if it didn't improve, or worsened over the course of the week, that it was coincidental and probably had nothing to do with the Formeron and figured that I would try it again in a few weeks.

However the fact that it appeared so suddenly (particularly on the forearms) when the only thing that changed was the addition of the Formeron and the fact that it subsided just as quickly when I stopped using it makes it likely that I had some kind of allergic reaction.

Now since I experienced none of this when I was using Formeron while on enclomiphene means that it's very possible that the enclomiphene was in fact blocking the edcysteroids and it definitely appears that I'm allergic to something in the product. I was seriously considering trying it while on and then later on while off the enclomiphene to see what happens but I'm not all that enthused to go through another 48 hours of severe itching and hives again just out of curiosity.

This sucks of course because I had been looking forward to this product but unfortunately it appears as if it just doesn't agree with me so I'll probably just give the three remaining bottles that I have to one of my friends.
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This happened to me with topical curcumin. My friends used it no problem but when I used it I had a allergic reaction. Hives, rashes massive itching. I tried a couple times each time broke out. Must be something your sensitive to. Im using formeron with no issues
 
raji1980 said:
This happened to me with topical curcumin. My friends used it no problem but when I used it I had a allergic reaction. Hives, rashes massive itching. I tried a couple times each time broke out. Must be something your sensitive to. Im using formeron with no issues
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The odd thing was that I used the first bottle (while I was on enclomiphene) without any issues. I stopped the Formeron for a week until I finished the enclomiphene and literally the first day that I started the Formeron back up again was when I had the severe reaction.
 
Has no one considered putting a review on here under the supplement reviews page or running a log on here? Seems to be a lot of mixed and conflicting feedback.
 
Atlas1970 said:
Has no one considered putting a review on here under the supplement reviews page or running a log on here? Seems to be a lot of mixed and conflicting feedback.
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Other than some people maybe needing more AI it seems pretty consistent to me. If you go back and read the posts youll see.

just a few=
"Been on for 7 weeks and bench is up 15lbs after being plateaued for almost two years, and all other lifts going up just as fast. no side effects what so ever. Been eating in a surplus and am up 5lbs. This stuff is great, never saw results as intense as this on my many many androgen runs although i still love that product. I’m not on TRT or anything else. New formeron works for me."

"So far I’m up 3 lbs i definitely have a more full look in the gym and the pumps are pretty good. I haven’t noticed any dramatic strength improvements yet. I do seem to have a bit more muscle endurance. My libido is definitely up, this is the most noticeable effect so far for me."

"The pumps on this thing are insane lol
About a week in and the shirts don’t fit when I’m working out"

"just finished with first bottle and on to the second. I love this product. Best topical application ever. Almost scary how fast it dries with no residue and no smell. Truly a perfect compliment to TRT. I do have issues with estrogen so I take 1 cap Letrone in PM and feel like i achieved hormonal balance. I haven’t felt this good since Var. The results have been close to Var as well."
 
brundel said:
Anyone else feeling like there could be more ai?
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With TRT and an pharma AI, I reduced from 6 to 4 pumps and it seems to have balanced out the estrogen. 6 pumps left me bloated at about 20 days. Just to re-iterate with Formeron 2.0, I was hoping to drop (or reduce) my TRT AI and use the entire dose of Formeron. With 4 pumps though, I have a mild pump pretty much all the time, feel good from the DHEA, am noticing strength gains, quicker recovery and less DOM's. Good product! Just needs more AI for me anyhow.
 
brundel said:
Other than some people maybe needing more AI it seems pretty consistent to me. If you go back and read the posts youll see.

just a few=
"Been on for 7 weeks and bench is up 15lbs after being plateaued for almost two years, and all other lifts going up just as fast. no side effects what so ever. Been eating in a surplus and am up 5lbs. This stuff is great, never saw results as intense as this on my many many androgen runs although i still love that product. I’m not on TRT or anything else. New formeron works for me."

"So far I’m up 3 lbs i definitely have a more full look in the gym and the pumps are pretty good. I haven’t noticed any dramatic strength improvements yet. I do seem to have a bit more muscle endurance. My libido is definitely up, this is the most noticeable effect so far for me."

"The pumps on this thing are insane lol
About a week in and the shirts don’t fit when I’m working out"

"just finished with first bottle and on to the second. I love this product. Best topical application ever. Almost scary how fast it dries with no residue and no smell. Truly a perfect compliment to TRT. I do have issues with estrogen so I take 1 cap Letrone in PM and feel like i achieved hormonal balance. I haven’t felt this good since Var. The results have been close to Var as well."
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I haven't read through everything so forgive me if im missing something or repeat someone. But, Seeing how it seems to consistently raise estrogen a little, and be anabolic, I wonder how it would fare as a "base" for a dry ph. I don't have a reason to use it that way, but a no pin "base" is always popular on the forums. I'd imagine some ppl would try it
 
Smont said:
I haven't read through everything so forgive me if im missing something or repeat someone. But, Seeing how it seems to consistently raise estrogen a little, and be anabolic, I wonder how it would fare as a "base" for a dry ph. I don't have a reason to use it that way, but a no pin "base" is always popular on the forums. I'd imagine some ppl would try it
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I think it work. I had to reduce the dose cause I was getting bloated and smooth.
 
Smont said:
I haven't read through everything so forgive me if im missing something or repeat someone. But, Seeing how it seems to consistently raise estrogen a little, and be anabolic, I wonder how it would fare as a "base" for a dry ph. I don't have a reason to use it that way, but a no pin "base" is always popular on the forums. I'd imagine some ppl would try it
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Was thinking of Epiandro with Formeron
 
I will say week 2/3 I felt puffy, nips didn’t hurt but felt itchy just a bit…end of week 3 into 4, the puffiness in my midsection seems to have resolved, mostly, and no more itchiness

Overall look bigger still but haven’t weighed myself as I had a frozen pipe in my house so I had to go to my parents to shower the last few days…a week or so ago, I was up 4-5lbs
 
Added this in at 6 pumps 2 days ago. Obviously far too early for changes, but a huge boost in libido/erectile function.

The topical solution is very impressive. Dries within 15 seconds, so its great if you need to quickly apply then put clothes on a couple of minutes later. Using latex gloves for application

Are most of you dosing at 6 pumps or 7 pumps daily?
 
Smont said:
I haven't read through everything so forgive me if im missing something or repeat someone. But, Seeing how it seems to consistently raise estrogen a little, and be anabolic, I wonder how it would fare as a "base" for a dry ph. I don't have a reason to use it that way, but a no pin "base" is always popular on the forums. I'd imagine some ppl would try it
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Yah I would always suggest using test along with literally any cycle. That being said, if for some reason you cant or wont this would be a great alternative because its really good at kicking up test levels, its highly anabolic in its own right and its got some AI activity. I may increase the dose of AI.
This would be ideal for this purpose though.
 
botk1161 said:
I think it work. I had to reduce the dose cause I was getting bloated and smooth.
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INstead just add a cap of Letrone or some other AI. Otherwise your not getting the full benefits. Or accept being a bit smooth for a while and enjoy the gains. Youll lose the water after and the water weight will give you cushion for the joints and allow for more power output.
 
Young Gotti said:
I will say week 2/3 I felt puffy, nips didn’t hurt but felt itchy just a bit…end of week 3 into 4, the puffiness in my midsection seems to have resolved, mostly, and no more itchiness

Overall look bigger still but haven’t weighed myself as I had a frozen pipe in my house so I had to go to my parents to shower the last few days…a week or so ago, I was up 4-5lbs
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Yah I think we might need a bit more AI. The gains are there. Just have to decide if we want more AI or if some people can add Letrone etc
 
brundel said:
Yah I think we might need a bit more AI. The gains are there. Just have to decide if we want more AI or if some people can add Letrone etc
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I think a bit more AI would be a good idea, as I’m viewing it now, this product is more of a bulker than cutter, a bit of an ai could lend it beneficial for both

However, maybe offer a stack on your site of formeron and letron as an option?
 
brundel said:
Yah I think we might need a bit more AI. The gains are there. Just have to decide if we want more AI or if some people can add Letrone etc
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I know the people who need more ai are probably thinking put it in the product. My thinking is if you can leave the product as is and people can take there ai separate it makes more sense for versatility of the product and so that it doesn't go the opposite way for some and be too dry. I also wonder if taking the estrogen away is gonna take some of the size and strength gains away. Like....... if I took dbol and used a ai to keep estrogen low, most of the size gains from dbol don't exist anymore, Mine as well take tbol. So if we get rid of the excess of estrogen on this product it might change the end result. Am I way off?

I by no means think I got this all figured out. It's just some random thoughts/ideas that I think make sense, at least by that comparison. Which could be way off
 
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Smont said:
I know the people who need more ai are probably thinking put it in the product. My thinking is if you can leave the product as is and people can take there ai separate it makes more sense for versatility of the product and so that it doesn't go the opposite way for some and be too dry. I also wonder if taking the estrogen away is gonna take some of the size and strength gains away. Like....... if I took dbol and used a ai to keep estrogen low, most of the size gains from dbol don't exist anymore, Mine as well take tbol. So if we get rid of the excess of estrogen on this product it might change the end result. Am I way off?

I by no means think I got this all figured out. It's just some random thoughts/ideas that I think make sense, at least by that comparison. Which could be way off
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Agreed 100%.
Initially I was under impression that product is a bit of ai ( maybe because of the name ). I think some people bought it in order to lower an ai that they currently running. I will give it a go soon , planning to run it with epianro ( looking for a mild but still noticeable boost) . As you said it seams that it has a potential to act as a bit of the base.
 
brundel said:
INstead just add a cap of Letrone or some other AI. Otherwise your not getting the full benefits. Or accept being a bit smooth for a while and enjoy the gains. Youll lose the water after and the water weight will give you cushion for the joints and allow for more power output.
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If I wanted to be smoother and enjoy the gains, I would up my TRT dose very cheaply at that. I bought Formeron 2 cause I thought it was marketed to rival Formeron 1 (a very powerful AI which I used many bottles of) which could not be further from the case imo. The suggestion of me having to buy another AI for my AI just pisses me off. I will get over it lol. The product is simply different than I anticipated and for my needs. For now I will stick with 3-4 pumps and ride out the three bottles I have. FYI I have supported BLR from the very beginning and spent thousands. All the best!
 
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What do you think would be preferable for people who have noticed an increase in estrogen from formeron, a tablet, letron or alpha gel?
 
Matrixxx1984 said:
What do you think would be preferable for people who have noticed an increase in estrogen from formeron, a tablet, letron or alpha gel?
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He's probably not gonna suggest a product from a different company. Both are great products, but its an apples and oranges kind of comparison. Alpha gel is a tongkat ali test boosting type product with a few aromatase inhibiting ingredients but letrone is more based around controlling estrogen, so if that's your goal go with letrone.
 
Smont said:
I know the people who need more ai are probably thinking put it in the product. My thinking is if you can leave the product as is and people can take there ai separate it makes more sense for versatility of the product and so that it doesn't go the opposite way for some and be too dry. I also wonder if taking the estrogen away is gonna take some of the size and strength gains away. Like....... if I took dbol and used a ai to keep estrogen low, most of the size gains from dbol don't exist anymore, Mine as well take tbol. So if we get rid of the excess of estrogen on this product it might change the end result. Am I way off?

I by no means think I got this all figured out. It's just some random thoughts/ideas that I think make sense, at least by that comparison. Which could be way off
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I tend to agree. People dont realize how beneficial estrogen is.
 
botk1161 said:
If I wanted to be smoother and enjoy the gains, I would up my TRT dose very cheaply at that. I bought Formeron 2 cause I thought it was marketed to rival Formeron 1 (a very powerful AI which I used many bottles of) which could not be further from the case imo. The suggestion of me having to buy another AI for my AI just pisses me off. I will get over it lol. The product is simply different than I anticipated and for my needs. For now I will stick with 3-4 pumps and ride out the three bottles I have. FYI I have supported BLR from the very beginning and spent thousands. All the best!
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Yah its definitely wetter than expected but the difference is if you add this to testosterone vs just testosterone the effects would be different. Also not everyone has bottles of testosterone laying around.
This is the debate though, do we leave it as is because its working very well, and, let people add more AI if needed. Many dont need it at all. OR add it and potentially reduce some of the benefits.
To me it seems like we dont want to do anything to reduce effects.
 
Matrixxx1984 said:
What do you think would be preferable for people who have noticed an increase in estrogen from formeron, a tablet, letron or alpha gel?
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Letrone. Just because its primarily an AI but has some anabolic properties. Works really well as a reliable AI though. Even 1 cap is enough for many.
 
brundel said:
Yah its definitely wetter than expected but the difference is if you add this to testosterone vs just testosterone the effects would be different. Also not everyone has bottles of testosterone laying around.
This is the debate though, do we leave it as is because its working very well, and, let people add more AI if needed. Many dont need it at all. OR add it and potentially reduce some of the benefits.
To me it seems like we dont want to do anything to reduce effects.
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Haven't tried it yet. but from keeping my eye on what people are saying. I wouldn't reduce the effectiveness. if needed they can add in some Letrone. This is the first run and still needs more data / Feedback, and some will respond a little different, plus you cant control what else they are running along side of it.
 
Week 6, up 8lbs as of this morning

daily readiness on Fitbit has been low this week due to increased resting heart rate, unsure why

Strength seems to be up but I don’t focus on strength all that much in general but figured I’d put it for those who do

Stomach is a smoother and face is more round but I’m not uncomfortably bloated…thinking water will dissipate once I come off but I did adjust my diet a bit this week to see if it helps…reduced total carb intake by a bit and shifted some carbs more around my workout

Haven’t noticed any increase in libido or increase in well being or natural energy which I find odd but workouts are still good
 
Young Gotti said:
Week 6, up 8lbs as of this morning

daily readiness on Fitbit has been low this week due to increased resting heart rate, unsure why

Strength seems to be up but I don’t focus on strength all that much in general but figured I’d put it for those who do

Stomach is a smoother and face is more round but I’m not uncomfortably bloated…thinking water will dissipate once I come off but I did adjust my diet a bit this week to see if it helps…reduced total carb intake by a bit and shifted some carbs more around my workout

Haven’t noticed any increase in libido or increase in well being or natural energy which I find odd but workouts are still good
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What muscle groups have increased the most do you feel, thanks.
 
Atlas1970 said:
What muscle groups have increased the most do you feel, thanks.
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Shoulders look more round and arms are what i'm noticing most....reckless speculation: clearly these are places that receive the product the most, maybe some type of localized improvement..probably not but it's crossed my mind

smaller but noticeable improvements in calves, i genetically have smaller calves and they look a bit more juicy when they aren't being flexed
 
Young Gotti said:
Shoulders look more round and arms are what i'm noticing most....reckless speculation: clearly these are places that receive the product the most, maybe some type of localized improvement..probably not but it's crossed my mind

smaller but noticeable improvements in calves, i genetically have smaller calves and they look a bit more juicy when they aren't being flexed
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Thanks, shoulders I believe have the most androgen receptors so that's interesting
 
I didn't log, but I have been on 3 pumps two times a day for the 1st bottle. Week into my 2nd bottle where i went to 4 pumps two times per day.

I went from 250 to 258. Very watery looking. However I feel great and strong. Libido up, feeling aggressive. I honestly really like this product, and want to purchase a third bottle.

However I am concerned about what is going on with me hormonal. I feel too good for this to be natural plus with the water retention I'm not sure if it's estrogen. I didn't get bloodwork before so I am wondering if I got bloodwork now would I notice anything. Biggest concern is this shutting me down or suppression. Meaning this product is not natural and is affecting my hpta negatively.
 
Got some on the way. Glad to finally give it a go
 
I've been taking 50mg of oral formestane (can get from UK/EU retailers) for 3 days now and all the water weight has come off me, so might be worth you guys adding an AI if you're finding yourself looking smooth. Picked it up for $30 for a 90 day supply at 1 tab a day, so very affordable.
 
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