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In a month or two I'm looking to start a new stack.

Currently what I'm looking at:
X-Gels
Ep1c Unleashed
ABE
Inhibit-E/OG Erase
Something for sleep/recovery/nighttime 'HGH' supplement that really doesn't do anything HGH wise but makes you sleep like a child

Should I add Forskolin 95, Amentoflavene, or really anything else? I used Alphamax before and didn't really like the way it affected me, so I'll probably stay away from that.

I'll be taking Ergonine and High Volume with Orange Triad. I'm trying to gain as much mass and strength as possible. Anything I'm forgetting or needing to add?
 
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AnaBeta Elite + X-Gels would be my number 1 recommendations if strength and size are your priorities. You would need to add any additional forskolin or anything else IMO.

As for a sleep aid, melatonin, Growth Factor XT, or DopaDex and/or CholorTest would be solid choices.
 

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Haven't tried it yet but heard some good things about alphamax for the sleep part.
 
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From what ive heard, x-gels would be your best bet for pure strength supplement wise. I didnt notice to much from ABE but people seem to swear by it. For sleep whats been helping me of late is eating like 50% of my daily carb intake before bed and i sleep like a rock. If your wanting to give -Epi a run id say go with Epi-Plex. Most affordable so you could pick up 2 bottles without breaking the bank. Forskolin works great but i think it would be best if you were using it for a cut honestly.
 
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Anabeta + X Gels is a highly recommended stack around here, lots of compliments on it. I'd hesitate on adding too many things as you could simply spend a lot of money for little return after a certain point. Also, you'd lose sight of what was working well for you and what wasn't.

In the end if you want strength and mass, diet is the most important factor.
 
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Haven't tried it yet but heard some good things about alphamax for the sleep part.
It didn't help me sleep at all. I sleep better off it than on. Didn't really help me lean out either. Idk maybe it's just me but I didn't see much from it.

AnaBeta Elite + X-Gels would be my number 1 recommendations if strength and size are your priorities. You would need to add any additional forskolin or anything else IMO.

As for a sleep aid, melatonin, Growth Factor XT, or DopaDex and/or CholorTest would be solid choices.
Melatonin makes me really groggy in the morning.
Isn't chlorotest a test booster? Dopadex was something I was considering but I can't find any AS products lately
 
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Looks like a solid stack and definitely no need to add extra forskolin.
 
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I think X gels should be your base then build from there. Can't go wrong with any of those choices really.

Growth XT is a great GH/Sleep supp
 
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SNS X-gels
PES ABE
BPS laxacrine
Soy lecithin granules (for the PA content)

The SL can act as your emulsifier for the ArA
 
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SNS X-gels
PES ABE
BPS laxacrine
Soy lecithin granules (for the PA content)

The SL can act as your emulsifier for the ArA
Laxacrine over Ep1C unleashed?
Can I ask why

Also, I haven't read much on PA. I see the thread but it's almost endless and kind of overwhelming.
 
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I think X gels should be your base then build from there. Can't go wrong with any of those choices really.

Growth XT is a great GH/Sleep supp
I second this! SNS xgels is probably one of my favorite supps!
 

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At most I'd run two natural anabolics.....I think having that many is just overkill, although Soy Lecithin Granules are so cost effective (7 bucks, 3 tbsp daily lasts 20 days) it may be worth adding them to two anabolics. Something like this:

Soy Lecithin Granules (for PA)
ArA
Anabeta Elite/Ep1c Unleashed
 
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Alphamax didn't help me sleep. Will probably run growth XT for sleep.


Anyway, what about Magnitropin or Myosynergy Elite + X-Gels.

I have 1 bottle of Ep1c Unleashed. And half a bottle of ABE left.

Also, with X-Gels already giving a nice pump, will adding HV or White Rapids be too much?

If I take X-Gels and PA before workout, fasted, doesn't PA have nutritional content that will defeat the whole fasted phase and cause an insulin spike?
 
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Melatonin makes me really groggy in the morning.
Isn't chlorotest a test booster? Dopadex was something I was considering but I can't find any AS products lately[/QUOTE]

We have most of the Analyzed products available as stack options but not Dopadex unfortunately, Chlorotest is a test booster
 
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Myosynergy elite would be you're best option. If you're looking for a sleep aide, look into Evomuse sleephoria.
 

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I'm planning on rotating between MyoElite/BMP and Epic Unleashed.. 2 month rotations I'm thinking.

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Alphamax didn't help me sleep. Will probably run growth XT for sleep.


Anyway, what about Magnitropin or Myosynergy Elite + X-Gels.

I have 1 bottle of Ep1c Unleashed. And half a bottle of ABE left.

Also, with X-Gels already giving a nice pump, will adding HV or White Rapids be too much?

If I take X-Gels and PA before workout, fasted, doesn't PA have nutritional content that will defeat the whole fasted phase and cause an insulin spike?
If you already have the EP1C Unleashed start using that standalone to see how you react to the beast. Covers you in almost every department imo, all day muscle fullness, increased endurance / workload, and strength of course.
 
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If you already have the EP1C Unleashed start using that standalone to see how you react to the beast. Covers you in almost every department imo, all day muscle fullness, increased endurance / workload, and strength of course.
Over stacking it with X-Gels? I already ordered the X-Gels but I guess I could run a separate cycle later. I can run Ep1c Unleashed indefinitely, right?

I'm planning on rotating between MyoElite/BMP and Epic Unleashed.. 2 month rotations I'm thinking.

Matt
I was looking at BMP but can't find much on it.
 

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I should have a couple bottles of BMP later this week if all goes to plan. I don't think anyone has them yet due to some unfortunate circumstances.
 
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Over stacking it with X-Gels? I already ordered the X-Gels but I guess I could run a separate cycle later. I can run Ep1c Unleashed indefinitely, right?



I was looking at BMP but can't find much on it.
You can introduce the two in stages so you know what's doing what, albeit the pump will be ridiculous on both those products.
 
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Alphamax didn't help me sleep. Will probably run growth XT for sleep. Anyway, what about Magnitropin or Myosynergy Elite + X-Gels. I have 1 bottle of Ep1c Unleashed. And half a bottle of ABE left. Also, with X-Gels already giving a nice pump, will adding HV or White Rapids be too much? If I take X-Gels and PA before workout, fasted, doesn't PA have nutritional content that will defeat the whole fasted phase and cause an insulin spike?
Introduce in stages. At some point the pumps will be too much for sure.
 
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I agree. The pump will get too be too much. X gels alone give me a crazy pump. I can't imagine adding a lot more if your taking xgels at optimal dosage.
 
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You can introduce the two in stages so you know what's doing what, albeit the pump will be ridiculous on both those products.
So there is probably no need for High Volume or White Rapids if I'm on X-Gels and/or Ep1C?
 
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So there is probably no need for High Volume or White Rapids if I'm on X-Gels and/or Ep1C?
Not on legs day, depends on each person, some people love the pump, some mind too much of a pump. The epic will give you all day muscle fullness which is nice
 
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So there is probably no need for High Volume or White Rapids if I'm on X-Gels and/or Ep1C?
No. High Volume or White Rapids would still be nice to have for a pre-workout.

People over exaggerate the pumps from X-Gels a little much.
 
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People over exaggerate the pumps from X-Gels a little much.
this x9000

A pre workout is always nice. Or you could pop 200mg caffeine + half a bronkaid if you're looking just for a stim effect (acute strength bennies as well)
 
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Alphamax didn't help me sleep. Will probably run growth XT for sleep.


Anyway, what about Magnitropin or Myosynergy Elite + X-Gels.

I have 1 bottle of Ep1c Unleashed. And half a bottle of ABE left.

Also, with X-Gels already giving a nice pump, will adding HV or White Rapids be too much?

If I take X-Gels and PA before workout, fasted, doesn't PA have nutritional content that will defeat the whole fasted phase and cause an insulin spike?
Hey brother, where you based? We can send you some Growth Factor XT samples if you're keen to give it a go? We would greatly appreciate the feedback on it :)
 
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No. High Volume or White Rapids would still be nice to have for a pre-workout.

People over exaggerate the pumps from X-Gels a little much.
Haha, I agree. I get a small pump but nothing compared to what High Volume can provide. I like Xgels for the strength and body comp but wouldn't buy solely for the pump aspect
 
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So here's what I'm thinking

Week 1-8:
Ep1C Unleashed

Week 3-12 (not really sure how long it will take for 50 workout days, but I'm guessing 10-11)
X-Gels

Week 6-14
ABE
OG Erase/Inhibit-E

Supplements:
High Volume
Ergonine
Orange Triad Multi
Amentomax
Growth XT
PA
 
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So here's what I'm thinking

Week 1-8:
Ep1C Unleashed

Week 3-12 (not really sure how long it will take for 50 workout days, but I'm guessing 10-11)
X-Gels

Week 6-14
ABE
OG Erase/Inhibit-E

Supplements:
High Volume
Ergonine
Orange Triad Multi
Amentomax
Growth XT
PA
A lot going on there, but I like the set up and bridging the EP1C, X-Gels, ABE, and Erase/Inhibit-E.
 
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So here's what I'm thinking

Week 1-8:
Ep1C Unleashed

Week 3-12 (not really sure how long it will take for 50 workout days, but I'm guessing 10-11)
X-Gels

Week 6-14
ABE
OG Erase/Inhibit-E

Supplements:
High Volume
Ergonine
Orange Triad Multi
Amentomax
Growth XT
PA
will you be logging ? iam excited to see ep1c in action
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for help with sleep i rec kava kava
 
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will you be logging ? iam excited to see ep1c in action
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I never thought about it but I wouldn't mind logging. I won't be starting for a month or so, though. I have a lot going on with school before it starts so I'm cutting cals and running Alphamine and Shift to cut some body fat.
 
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A lot going on there, but I like the set up and bridging the EP1C, X-Gels, ABE, and Erase/Inhibit-E.

The credit for bridging goes to Olympus Labs

One question i did have though, could I run something like Exotherm/Eviscerate/Ur-Spray while on this stack to keep body fat down and continue to lean out while I bulk up?
 
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The credit for bridging goes to Olympus Labs

One question i did have though, could I run something like Exotherm/Eviscerate/Ur-Spray while on this stack to keep body fat down and continue to lean out while I bulk up?
No needed IMO. You already have plenty going on.
 
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The credit for bridging goes to Olympus Labs

One question i did have though, could I run something like Exotherm/Eviscerate/Ur-Spray while on this stack to keep body fat down and continue to lean out while I bulk up?
You could throw in the TD unleashed to keep the theme consistent with epicatechin. Too many different compounds and you won't know what's doing what, but there is definite synergy between oral and td ep1c unleashed.
 
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So here's what I'm thinking

Week 1-8:
Ep1C Unleashed

Week 3-12 (not really sure how long it will take for 50 workout days, but I'm guessing 10-11)
X-Gels

Week 6-14
ABE
OG Erase/Inhibit-E

Supplements:
High Volume
Ergonine
Orange Triad Multi
Amentomax
Growth XT
PA
What about bridging weeks 6-14 with Myosynergy Elite? Better than ABE/Erase? That basically keeps me on -Epi the whole run and everything seems to point to MSE > ABE
 
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Not sure where you're reading MSE > ABE.

MyoSynergy Elite was just released so there can't be that much feedback on it yet. But I do know MyoSynergy has great feedback and I enjoy it myself, but I wouldn't put it over AnaBeta Elite as both contain totally different profiles (except forskolin).

You would be well off with either one though. Just remember the Lodhra Extract in ABE goes extremely well with Arachidonic Acid by allowing more ArA to be available by preventing the conversion of ArA to leukotrienes.
 
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I think X gels should be your base then build from there. Can't go wrong with any of those choices really.

Growth XT is a great GH/Sleep supp
I agree. I haven't tried many sleep supplements but GFXT goes beyond that. Recovery, Mood, Sleep, etc.
 

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