Excelsior pre workout

[Justjoe7989]

On another note today is a sad day for me......bused the last bit of my cherished 6/24 tub....took at 4 am it's 12:30 now and still going strong!!! Whatever they put in this batch I wish they would bring back

 

[Bernardhopkin]

On another note today is a sad day for me......bused the last bit of my cherished 6/24 tub....took at 4 am it's 12:30 now and still going strong!!! Whatever they put in this batch I wish they would bring back

Be certainly interesting to find what the secret ingredient is. Nightmare trying to sleep on that mind you .

 

[SpicedCider]

What's the consensus on the new Doomsday Hardcore sample? Any new opinions from people who have had a chance to try it?

 

[Maximiliaan]

Think you’re the only guy on here who bought it. Seen some good reviews on it on Reddit and seems so far I’m the only guy who didn’t like it cos it was too strong. The review on their site all pretty much matched my experience just they liked it and I don’t like that kinda vibe, too much at my age maybe.

 

[Plenny12]

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   Or pink hue

   has anyone tried crack undead king ? I've been researching this hard . And yes I had OG excelsior in the past to compare this to

 

[Justjoe7989]

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   has anyone tried crack undead king ? I've been researching this hard . And yes I had OG excelsior in the past to compare this to

Crack undead king is strong as fauk!! Kinda similar to the power by Russian labs imo

 

[muscleman]

My latest tub of Excelsior was delivered yesterday. The exp. date is 10/25 and it's a mix of white and pink flakes. Should I prepare to be disappointed?

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Have you tried it yet and how was it?

 

[muscleman]

Haha that’s where the cyclo rumour came from. He’s not tested ****, that guys gonna come out with his own pwo featuring that so trying to get sales. Lol he’s got a fake tub of a product that doesn’t exist on his profile (doomsday hardcore, looks like he’s taken the label off and applied it to some random ass silver tub). It’s amazing the ppl on his profile think he’s legit, he’s the one whose been robbing people on Reddit for years.

I have tried straight cyclazodone and besides a focus element it doesn't really feel like any Excelsior to me.

Have anybody here tried n-methyl-cyclazodone ? That is what he said was in older batches. I have never tried that though so can't comment based upon my experience.

When it comes to Smash though I do believe the rumor it contains 4fmph because I also tried that pure and Smash felt a lot like it. Pure 4fmph would be great as a standalone for focus for me but the yohimbe sides, sweats and chills I don't like

 

[zufir]

I have tried straight cyclazodone and besides a focus element it doesn't really feel like any Excelsior to me.

Have anybody here tried n-methyl-cyclazodone ? That is what he said was in older batches. I have never tried that though so can't comment based upon my experience.

When it comes to Smash though I do believe the rumor it contains 4fmph because I also tried that pure and Smash felt a lot like it. Pure 4fmph would be great as a standalone for focus for me but the yohimbe sides, sweats and chills I don't like

I can't get my hands on any of the research chemicals or else I would've tried hehe

 

[Frode Falch]

I am drinking a sample of the new more powerful doomsday as i type this.

To be continued.

 

[CATdiesel76]

I have tried straight cyclazodone and besides a focus element it doesn't really feel like any Excelsior to me.

Have anybody here tried n-methyl-cyclazodone ? That is what he said was in older batches. I have never tried that though so can't comment based upon my experience.

When it comes to Smash though I do believe the rumor it contains 4fmph because I also tried that pure and Smash felt a lot like it. Pure 4fmph would be great as a standalone for focus for me but the yohimbe sides, sweats and chills I don't like

I have both. They can be like a weaker addy with a higher increase in heart rate. They last maybe 4 hours max. Usually followed by pretty high brain fog. Not how I see og excelsior described

 

[Frode Falch]

Its getting late here in Norway. So here is a semi short review, and i will write a more in depth one tomorrow:

So i took the sample kinda late in the day. 18:00. With the plan to do 20 rounds on the heavybag at 19:00.

I didnt take this on a empty stomach. And also please note that i am 6 days into a 8 day long treatment of two different antibiotika because of a bad tooth infection. This allready make me feel weak and tired.

Anyway, so i started my bag work. And i felt sharp and fine the first three rounds or so. Did i notice anything big from the PWO? Not really. Except my punches being more sharp and on point, compared to my sessions the other days.

Halfway into the session i wanted to quit because i felt like ****. No motivation to keep going.

But i am not a bitch. So i would rather finish a horrible session, then quit halfway into it.

So this is where doomsday is so fucking good. It rewards you with more juice/power, the more you push yourself.

Just like the original mix. I thing that if you just take this, and wait for it to "kick inn", you will be very very disappointed. But of you take it, and try to push yourself in the gym.. thats where this is better and "more" then any other pwo i have tried.

It wont give you rocketfuel if you a lazy person. But it will indeed give you serious tuneup if you are allready a Ferrari.

 

[Maximiliaan]

Its getting late here in Norway. So here is a semi short review, and i will write a more in depth one tomorrow:

So i took the sample kinda late in the day. 18:00. With the plan to do 20 rounds on the heavybag at 19:00.

I didnt take this on a empty stomach. And also please note that i am 6 days into a 8 day long treatment of two different antibiotika because of a bad tooth infection. This allready make me feel weak and tired.

Anyway, so i started my bag work. And i felt sharp and fine the first three rounds or so. Did i notice anything big from the PWO? Not really. Except my punches being more sharp and on point, compared to my sessions the other days.

Halfway into the session i wanted to quit because i felt like ****. No motivation to keep going.

But i am not a bitch. So i would rather finish a horrible session, then quit halfway into it.

So this is where doomsday is so fucking good. It rewards you with more juice/power, the more you push yourself.

Just like the original mix. I thing that if you just take this, and wait for it to "kick inn", you will be very very disappointed. But of you take it, and try to push yourself in the gym.. thats where this is better and "more" then any other pwo i have tried.

It wont give you rocketfuel if you a lazy person. But it will indeed give you serious tuneup if you are allready a Ferrari.

That last paragraph is best description of doomsday I’d give. If you put the work in it won’t let you down. Be interested to see how you sleep, I found it v hard to sleep on taken at late afternoon and you’re taking it even later.

 

[Drakee]

So they just increased the serving lol doesnt seem like they added anything.

 

[Frode Falch]

So they just increased the serving lol doesnt seem like they added anything.

I was afraid they was gonna ruin it by making it stronger then good. Its the same but longer lasting.

 

[SpicedCider]

Have you tried it yet and how was it?

I finally got around to trying both the Doomsday "hardcore" sample and the new tub of Excelsior.

On the night I tried the Doomsday sample, I had planned on only taking that and going running.... however, when I still didn't really feel anything 40-50 minutes after taking it on an empty stomach (and also not noticing any sort of energy or stamina boost when doing my warm-up runs), I decided to go ahead and try ~1.3 scoops of the new Excelsior.

I just didn't want to waste that run by not getting any sort of energy boost at all.

As far as my opinion on the new Excelsior tub is concerned -- I'd say it's basically on par with the previous tub I'd purchased -- so a decent energy boost and an inclination to want to sit in my car and listen to music and clench my jaws for 30 minutes, LOL.

Like the previous tub, it's not on par with the OG Excelsior of 2020, but at least it beats Doomsday.

 

[CATdiesel76]

Doomsday for me doesn’t really “kick in” especially since it takes awhile. But I suddenly have lots of super focused energy. Never overwhelming or anxious or elevated heart rate. Just super clean productive energy that lasts. I get so many tasks done

also, unlike other stims is can workout on it without feeling terrible or my heart pounding

 

[SpicedCider]

Doomsday for me doesn’t really “kick in” especially since it takes awhile. But I suddenly have lots of super focused energy. Never overwhelming or anxious or elevated heart rate. Just super clean productive energy that lasts. I get so many tasks done

also, unlike other stims is can workout on it without feeling terrible or my heart pounding

I think it just comes down to whether someone's personal preference for PWOs is stim-based vs. non-stim. At this point, if I don't take a stim-based product, I basically don't feel anything (and even if I do take something with stims, the product has to offer something more than just the usual panel of caffeine, synephrine, etc.).

 

[CATdiesel76]

I think it just comes down to whether someone's personal preference for PWOs is stim-based vs. non-stim. At this point, if I don't take a stim-based product, I basically don't feel anything (and even if I do take something with stims, the product has to offer something more than just the usual panel of caffeine, synephrine, etc.).

I prefer stim based don’t get me wrong. And I love DMHA, DMAA, etc. just not 500mg of caffeine or some of these weird unlisted stims that feel extremely cardiotoxic and dirty. I don’t think those are healthy especially during an intense workout. And for me Doomsday is definitely stimmed. It’s strong and lost lasting but it comes on very slow and smooth and doesn’t Jack my heart rate to unsafe levels like some. The smooth and long time for it to work is why I was saying it doesn’t kick in like 15 minute after ingestion you feel like you were hit by lightning. Just different

 

[CATdiesel76]

So I purchased a tub of doomsday off a member here that it didn’t work for. It still worked for me. It seemed weaker but I’ve taken doomsday about 5 days in a row and after 3-4 days straight it gets weaker and it hits full force after two days or so off. Which if weird but it’s how it works for me. So I’m guessing some people just must not be responders and other people like me it works for very well

 

[Justjoe7989]

So I purchased a tub of doomsday off a member here that it didn’t work for. It still worked for me. It seemed weaker but I’ve taken doomsday about 5 days in a row and after 3-4 days straight it gets weaker and it hits full force after two days or so off. Which if weird but it’s how it works for me. So I’m guessing some people just must not be responders and other people like me it works for very well

Well bud it's really not that it didn't work for me in my opinion there's much better options for me!!! I like high stim stuff even when I go off the exotics I still take in good amounts of caffeine and really it would have just sat around and got clumpy..... then soupy.... then I would have thrown it away after spending 100+ on it which Is entirely too much for that I saw your post and decided if someone else like it and I could get a little back for it why not.. I'm also glad you are happy with it

 

[zufir]

I finally got around to trying both the Doomsday "hardcore" sample and the new tub of Excelsior.

On the night I tried the Doomsday sample, I had planned on only taking that and going running.... however, when I still didn't really feel anything 40-50 minutes after taking it on an empty stomach (and also not noticing any sort of energy or stamina boost when doing my warm-up runs), I decided to go ahead and try ~1.3 scoops of the new Excelsior.

I just didn't want to waste that run by not getting any sort of energy boost at all.

As far as my opinion on the new Excelsior tub is concerned -- I'd say it's basically on par with the previous tub I'd purchased -- so a decent energy boost and an inclination to want to sit in my car and listen to music and clench my jaws for 30 minutes, LOL.

Like the previous tub, it's not on par with the OG Excelsior of 2020, but at least it beats Doomsday.

So doomsday hardcore is disappointing afterall ? Aw man I really wanted the little buddy to succeed this time . Anyways I gave my doomsday tub to my girlfriend to replace her old preworkout and she said, and I quote: ''I really like it! It feels similar to my strawberry lemonade from alani nu''

At least my money wasn't wasted I guess...

 

[Justjoe7989]

So doomsday hardcore is disappointing afterall ? Aw man I really wanted the little buddy to succeed this time . Anyways I gave my doomsday tub to my girlfriend to replace her old preworkout and she said, and I quote: ''I really like it! It feels similar to my strawberry lemonade from alani nu''

At least my money wasn't wasted I guess...

Haha

 

[CATdiesel76]

Well bud it's really not that it didn't work for me in my opinion there's much better options for me!!! I like high stim stuff even when I go off the exotics I still take in good amounts of caffeine and really it would have just sat around and got clumpy..... then soupy.... then I would have thrown it away after spending 100+ on it which Is entirely too much for that I saw your post and decided if someone else like it and I could get a little back for it why not.. I'm also glad you are happy with it

My mistake I thought that it didn’t work at all vs just not being worth it. And I totally get it. I guess for me having a lost lasting really focused stim is just what I need for long work days where I have to be super focused but not cracked out. But thanks for being a great seller and I’d recommend you to anyone in the future.

 

[SpicedCider]

Actually, now that I've had the chance to try my latest tub of Excelsior on a couple different occasions, I honestly think this one is weaker than the previous tub I had. I want to be wrong, but I don't think I am.

 

[muscleman]

Actually, now that I've had the chance to try my latest tub of Excelsior on a couple different occasions, I honestly think this one is weaker than the previous tub I had. I want to be wrong, but I don't think I am.

Thanks for commenting.

I would be a bit worried getting some weak Doomsday with an Excelsior label at this stage ordering from PN right now lol

I have been following this thread for some years now lol and I dunno always when new batch is coming out some people say amazing.
Don't believe the hype and I dunno with all variance in production lately
I would be a bit worried that occasionally they might be selling some tubs being a bit stronger to get some good reports and reviews out but then if too many people got too strong tubs they would risk too many side effects and a second wave of too much hype which they don't want because then too much attention to keep it going... but maybe at this price and this rate they make extremely good business anyhow. And I don't think they have had access to the same ingredient that was in older batch or maybe it was just so hard to synthesize it good? And the good ol chef got another job cooking for somebody else or cooking something else lol Or the climate change just didn't make the exotic fruits and herbs used produce same amount of as active ingredient? Lol

There has obviously been a fair bit of tinkering and experimenting too get the different batches together and hats off and respect mostly to those old 10/22 and some 8/23 that had same if not more power even but the also too much power and risk of side effects and ER as we have read here.

Honestly on fresh receptors the new tubs at first try feels pretty good but then even just using barel a scoop daily for a few days in a row I start to feel a bit off as opposed to the older more long lasting tubs that would work pretty well for me for a couple of days in a row.

I finished up a whole 11/25 tub in about 6 weeks and it was good on fresh receptors but it wasn't that great I will save to compare to see if future batches are as good lol.

I have also started to develop a greater sensitivity to all artificially sweetened and flavored PWOs , it started with me feeling a bit sick and especially taking half of each of 2 different PWOs... Not recommended! Although as once having felt glory from some PWOs some punters like myself take the risk of mixing to try and feel something new. A few times it might have worked decent but many times it really mostly led to funny tummy lol.

I have been without Excelsior for some time now! Lol I did dip into my last O.G tub and it is strong and focusenhancing but also jaw clenching and sleep screwing and hmm I might be a happy human without it one day lol I wish there was something with same go and focus but that was less long lasting.... Maybe I should have studied chemistry after all Lol

I even took top coffee again. A nice organic arabica on sale at the local super and cold press it over night to avoid the acidity of coffee.. but then if I have it I end up drinking too much and having too much sugar too! Yerba mate is a better more balanced long lasting boost but it takes a bit more effort of loading up my traditional mate gourd and boil the water and fill it up lol....

And drinking my coffee and comparing to my amino acid enhanced nootropic PWO I think the extra focus my PWO is mostly placebo but the puny feeling from PWO is not lol

Being without Excelsior a bit longer gives me a better perspective and as @zufir also commented even though the 11/25 tubs that he and I think I have got are pretty strong, he commented on acid reflux and I feel that as well as my stomach actually felt a bit more screwed after using it. But maybe it is good thing as well Excelsior being a though teacher on tummy as well Lol

I am on a rant and maybe it would have been an over the top ego mania rant if I had some more O.G left but now it is screwed stomach no O.G me no want no more puke inducing candy powder.
Just give me the real purple shaped flower and let me regain the power of the Black Panther!

Take care and don't believe the hype

 

[Carolina Kid]

Are you still taking SMASH?

Nope, I never had a good experience after the first go I posted about. But I know that’s due to the yohimbe that I don’t do well with.

On another note, I just got 2 tubs of excelsior from PN in today. I specifically requested exp 11/25 this time if they had, and they confirmed they had a few left and sent 2 exp 11/25.

Cracked open that bad boy at 1pm and it’s still fam…..

 

[Carolina Kid]

Nope, I never had a good experience after the first go I posted about. But I know that’s due to the yohimbe that I don’t do well with.

On another note, I just got 2 tubs of excelsior from PN in today. I specifically requested exp 11/25 this time if they had, and they confirmed they had a few left and sent 2 exp 11/25.

Cracked open that bad boy at 1pm and it’s still fam…..

I’ll also add that I took a half scoop at 5pm as a top off (I only did 0.75 scoop at 1pm) because I was in my doomsday mode (which this works well for, for me, IMO) and that was a mistake.

Sleep was minimal to not even had.

That being said, I crushed a 6am workout this morning. This 11/25 exp I got from Predator yesterday is still legit good. Same lot # as before for me, just in a reddish tub and top has ridges. Previous 11/25 was all Black tub and top had ridges, so only difference was the tub color.

Glad Imperial Nutrition is stepping up to the plate again and putting out good batches recently, I still think with a break from using and then putting back in the rotation that excelsior is hands down the best pre on the market and it’s not even close……

@muscleman and @ELROCK , go grab one boys…..

 

[cfisher52986]

So is Predator shipping 11/25 again? Someone on Reddit just ordered and received 2 tubs

 

[Carolina Kid]

So is Predator shipping 11/25 again? Someone on Reddit just ordered and received 2 tubs

I had inquired about 11/25 and also doomsday hardcore sample. They said sold out of doomsday hardcore samples for now, but if I emailed them my order#, they could tell their warehouse people to put in 11/25 batch because they still had some left.

I emailed them and that’s what they did, have never had a problem with PN customs (in US) and always had fast shipping and good experience with them…..if anyone has a doomsday hardcore sample, would love to try but can’t imagine its better than this 11/25 batch that is still