Epistane stacks??

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Have a couple bottles of epistane was hoping to stack it with non methylated PH like 19 nordial?? or some form of SARM. I have ran epi solo before and had some great gains.

Looking for advice on potential stacks

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Test, 4-Andro or Dermacrine. Wouldn't bother with sarms with Epistane.
 
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Were pretty popular.. halo would lean you out.
 
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If you want a 19-nor ph (which are actually designer steroids) you want dienolone or diendione I believe there called. Those were the popular "tren" prohormones back in the day.

What you really should be stacking it with is something that converts to estrogen so that you feel good and make better progress, and your junk still works
 
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If you want a sarm that's similar to the 19nor designers you want s23. I'm currently using the injectable version of it. It's no joke. It's also much more likely to cause side effects then other sarms. Like most things anabolic, the higher the risk the higher the reward or vice versa
 

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Test or epi Andro. Lethergy and joint pain is pretty bad with epistane
 
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Test or epi Andro. Lethergy and joint pain is pretty bad with epistane
Epi Andro is a terrible idea with epistane. You're taking something extremely dry and adding something to make it dryer, they also both lower your estrogen to a degree and you're going to end up with dry achy joints and a dick that doesn't work
 

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Epi Andro is a terrible idea with epistane. You're taking something extremely dry and adding something to make it dryer, they also both lower your estrogen to a degree and you're going to end up with dry achy joints and a dick that doesn't work
Agreed Very bad idea
 

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Thanks for the help,

Might try and source some 4,AD and see how I go. Thoughts on ostarine alongside to assist with joints? 🤔
 
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That's for the help,

Might try and source some 4,AD and see how I go. Thoughts on ostarine alongside to assist with joints? 🤔
I know we hear people talking about joints healing with that but I've not met a single person in real life who had success with It. Osta is trash pretty much all around the board. And even if it did work. The type of joint pain from epistane wouldn't be fixed my it.

Also something I want to throw out there about joint pain from anabolics. For the majority of people you're only getting joint pain when you're already super lean your dietary fats and calories are fairly low and you add a dry dht in.

If your average bodyfat and not lifting super heavy and other contributing factors you shouldn't really have any issues with the joints.

Average Joe blow at 15% body fat with a 225lb bench and a 300 lb squad isn't getting joint pain from epistane or winstrol and stuff like that.

But a bodybuilder or athlete who's single digit body fat benching 405 and squating 600 is way more likely to have issues with the joints if you get what I'm saying
 

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Yeah that's very true, and from what I've seen ostarine looks abit hit or miss from different people.

When I ran epistane solo 8 or so years ago I didn't have any joint aches just high BP
 
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Yeah that's very true, and from what I've seen ostarine looks abit hit or miss from different people.

When I ran epistane solo 8 or so years ago I didn't have any joint aches just high BP
Epistane is a great product for a lot of people, when all the designer steroids got less popular and only superdrol went mainstream I'm surprised epistane didn't too. I know a lot of guys that were using epistane over Winny pre contest for quite a while
 

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Yeah 100%

And epi is so underestimated, can add on some serious bulk or used for that recomp.

I haven't run anything in over a year. So pretty keen to tuck on this winter 😁😁
 
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Yeah 100%

And epi is so underestimated, can add on some serious bulk or used for that recomp.

I haven't run anything in over a year. So pretty keen to tuck on this winter 😁😁
There was 3 ways ppl seemed to respond to epistane.

Most said it was a great leaning out steroid and good for strength.

Some guys said it was a great mass builder

Some claimed they were non responders.

I usually think non responders=you have no clue how to eat or work out properly and you thought taking a steroid would automatically make you jacked.

There are non responders to anabolics but it's like 0.000001%
 
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Anyways, if I were you.

Grab some 4 Andro and run 300-400mg a day
Epistane 30-40mg
And if you wanna throw a sarm in I'd pick s23 20-40mg

6-8 weeks total

I'm also a rep for maresearchchems so if you need pct products or s23 or anything else like that use my discount code

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For 15% off

 

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Thanks mate, I'll see how I go sourcing the 4 andro and give it a crack.

I'll check out the site! How does it go shipping to oz 👀
 
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Thanks mate, I'll see how I go sourcing the 4 andro and give it a crack.

I'll check out the site! How does it go shipping to oz 👀
Ahhh, I always forget to check where ppl are from. They only ship us and canada
 

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I had terrible joint pain with epistane. At high doses I gained 10lbs over 6 weeks but towards the end I was lifting a lot less weight with joint pain. Definitely not a strength drug
 

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Anyways, if I were you.

Grab some 4 Andro and run 300-400mg a day
Epistane 30-40mg
And if you wanna throw a sarm in I'd pick s23 20-40mg

6-8 weeks total

I'm also a rep for maresearchchems so if you need pct products or s23 or anything else like that use my discount code

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Thoughts on 1 andro?? What would be the difference between 4 and 1 for this cycle?
 
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Thoughts on 1 andro?? What would be the difference between 4 and 1 for this cycle?
I hated 1 Andro, lots of guys do, some guys love it still.

4 Andro is a base hormone, it's your testosterone alternative. It provides you with testosterone and estrogen so that you maintain energy and libido on cycle. 1 Andro is your anabolic, it builds muscle better then 4 Andro, but for many guys it makes you feel tired and crappy and possibly erectile dysfunction. Even on real testosterone I felt like sluggish on 1 andro and it slightly lowered sex drive too.

So you wanna run them together and honestly it's probably a good idea to use epiandro with it as a further line of defense against the lathergy and loss of libido
 
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The good thing is if you run 1 Andro and about 2 weeks in you start feeling the side effects you can drop it and the sides should go away in a few days.

If your lathergic and feel crappy it's hard to eat and work out accordingly to make gainz
 

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Cheers smont, really insightful. I'll pick up the 4 andro!
 
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