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Did you happen to find any particular bias on the specific story reported?
i wasn't able to read the entire story...but i did find it odd that a sri lanka 'shaman' would have the sirname of 'WHITE'...of course i don't personally know any sri lanka shamen, for all i know WHITE could be a common sirname for sri lanka shamen...

is that right...is plural form of shaman, shamen?
 
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i wasn't able to read the entire story...but i did find it odd that a sri lanka 'shaman' would have the sirname of 'WHITE'...of course i don't personally know any sri lanka shamen, for all i know WHITE could be a common sirname for sri lanka shamen...

is that right...is plural form of shaman, shamen?
I know it should be shamneutralz,

I just posted that because for a long time, Ive had a pet peeve with alternative medicine as a whole including traditional chinese medicine. So it got my attention.

I looked up the healer and although he is Sri Lankan, he is of British heritage.

 
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I know it should be shamneutralz,

I just posted that because for a long time, Ive had a pet peeve with alternative medicine as a whole including traditional chinese medicine. So it got my attention.

I looked up the healer and although he is Sri Lankan, he is of British heritage.

so, you asked ME if i found any bias in the story, when all along it was YOU who had bias for posting the story, lol.:love:
 
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so, you asked ME if i found any bias in the story, when all along it was YOU who had bias for posting the story, lol.:love:
LOL, Im biased but I was right again about voodoo medicine :)
 
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I know it should be shamneutralz,

I just posted that because for a long time, Ive had a pet peeve with alternative medicine as a whole including traditional chinese medicine. So it got my attention.

I looked up the healer and although he is Sri Lankan, he is of British heritage.

I mean, Wikipedia isn't exactly foolproof. The citation they used to say he was of British heritage can't be found, and nowhere else makes mention of it .
 
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I mean, Wikipedia isn't exactly foolproof. The citation they used to say he was of British heritage can't be found, and nowhere else makes mention of it .
I briefly tried finding more info last night but didnt put much energy into it nor did I care that much.

I assumed he had family influences with British Imperialism as his home country was in part British Colony (Ceylon, not sure if anything else) so that wouldnt be so far a bad guess.

Ceylon Tea is one of my favorite teas btw, especially if you get good fresh quality.
 
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border patrol outraged by biden's scapegoating: 'he just started a war'


article @ yahoo news.
 
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i am curious to know how @Jiigzz feels about this--would he be in favor of this in new zealand?
I'm willing to wager you have no idea what this actually is. The ban are being asked to provide high-level data to catch out tax avoiders. I mean sure, it's just another privacy grab but it's nothing on what the private data collectors do to you every second you are connected to the internet.

At the end of the day if I'm paying a higher effective tax rate than Jeff Bezos, I would want to know why and what is being done to prevent that.

Aren't you guys mad that you give away such a huge chunk of your money to tax while the high earners are effectively paying 1% or less? Maybe not, but a lot of people are mad that the bottom % of earners have barely earned more money than have since the 1970s, while soon we will have Trillionaires in our midst. Of trickledown economics worked, then this wouldn't be happening.

If you actually cared about your privacy, then you wouldn't use the internet at all. Advertising meta-data knows everything about you.

That rewards cards you swipe at every shop are linked to an email which is sold to advertisers. Your phone knows who you spend time with, and creates ads based on what they like or are searching for.

This is nothing compared to that
 
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I'm willing to wager you have no idea what this actually is. The ban are being asked to provide high-level data to catch out tax avoiders. I mean sure, it's just another privacy grab but it's nothing on what the private data collectors do to you every second you are connected to the internet.

At the end of the day if I'm paying a higher effective tax rate than Jeff Bezos, I would want to know why and what is being done to prevent that.

Aren't you guys mad that you give away such a huge chunk of your money to tax while the high earners are effectively paying 1% or less? Maybe not, but a lot of people are mad that the bottom % of earners have barely earned more money than have since the 1970s, while soon we will have Trillionaires in our midst. Of trickledown economics worked, then this wouldn't be happening.

If you actually cared about your privacy, then you wouldn't use the internet at all. Advertising meta-data knows everything about you.

That rewards cards you swipe at every shop are linked to an email which is sold to advertisers. Your phone knows who you spend time with, and creates ads based on what they like or are searching for.

This is nothing compared to that
Rich people do pay the greater majority of taxes here in America, but if Im mad that the basic concept of punishing people for productive behavior. Personally, I think thats just a distraction people get caught up on so they compromise their own human rights.

Unfortunately most Americans will continue to vote either Republicrat or Demican and all of us are going to get the long end of the stick up the behind no matter what they corrupt parties preach and pretend to be.
 
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most of his approval drop comes from independents who voted for him...but recently been seeing BLM speaking out against vaccine mandates--curious to see how this plays out.
Alot of these "approval" drops are from people compromising their vote because they thought Dump was a Russian terrorist, and after the fact that they arent in the same position any more, they dont want to admit that they got what they voted for so they blame the guy they elected.
 
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Did anyone happen to catch this?


TYRANNY:’Biden’s’ IRS and U.S. Treasury Seeks To Monitor Every Bank Account With Over $600 And Report It To The IRS

The scariest part is that both Republicrat and Demican establishment support unconstitutional "Civil Asset Forfeiture" policies and they can freeze your account without any proper due process just for suspecting anything.

When government is dead broke they "trickle down" to the poor to steal whatever they can as a last desperate attempt to save their oligarchy.
 
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The scariest part is that both Republicrat and Demican establishment support unconstitutional "Civil Asset Forfeiture" policies and they can freeze your account without any proper due process just for suspecting anything.

When government is dead broke they "trickle down" to the poor to steal whatever they can as a last desperate attempt to save their oligarchy.
Them sons a bitches!
 
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Rich people do pay the greater majority of taxes here in America, but if Im mad that the basic concept of punishing people for productive behavior. Personally, I think thats just a distraction people get caught up on so they compromise their own human rights.

Unfortunately most Americans will continue to vote either Republicrat or Demican and all of us are going to get the long end of the stick up the behind no matter what they corrupt parties preach and pretend to be.
They might pay the majority, but they still pay the lowest effective tax rate which is messed up. It doesn't matter that they pay the highest total amount, because even 1% of a Billion is still a whopping 10 Million. What matters is that Billionaires pay THE lowest effective tax rate, which means the lower classes have to compensate to make up the difference. That's BS.
 
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The scariest part is that both Republicrat and Demican establishment support unconstitutional "Civil Asset Forfeiture" policies and they can freeze your account without any proper due process just for suspecting anything.

When government is dead broke they "trickle down" to the poor to steal whatever they can as a last desperate attempt to save their oligarchy.
I mean, most everyday citizens don't have to worry about their assets being frozen.

It is a bit sneaky given the evidence required is on the balance of probability vs. Beyond a reasonable doubt and that the person needs to prove innocence rather than for the prosecutors to prove guilt.
 
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Let's be clear though, Govt overreach is a real problem. But it is weird that we are so adamant to stop them here, when we don't care enough to stop data aggregation.

Google reminds me when bills are due and when/ where my flights/ holidays are. How does it know this? By scanning my emails and reading app data. It does make my life easier, but the fact it can easily get that info is pretty insane.
 
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Why do Dem-Libs get so obsessed with "effective tax rates". Money is money.

At the end of the day, say Bezos pays 10 million to the government in taxes, and his secretary pays 10,000. They both use the same government services, same roads, same military defense. But one guy is giving the government 1000 times more money for the same services.

So what if its a lower percent of the total earned?? HOW they come up with the amount of money means nothing, just word games, compared to how much total money is given in the end.

The top 1% pay 40% of the total of all taxes received. While almost half of the country pays nothing at all. Fair is disgustingly relative.

How about we spend less and tax everyone less? How about EVERYONE pays a little something into the pot each year, never zero.. and yeah, that should apply to corporations too.
 
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I mean, most everyday citizens don't have to worry about their assets being frozen.

It is a bit sneaky given the evidence required is on the balance of probability vs. Beyond a reasonable doubt and that the person needs to prove innocence rather than for the prosecutors to prove guilt.
Odds are it will probably not happen to most for sure, but this shouldnt happen to anybody, ever. And it does happen. Once society allows government to infringe on the liberties of one regardless of what you think of them, it usually continues from there rather than government having the fear of facing accountability when violating their Constitutional oaths. This is whats happening in America, and more intrusions of poor people will only lead to more problems.

My point is, it doesnt matter what how much of a reasonable doubt government has on an individual, seizure of money and private property prior to proper due prossess needs to always, and always be completely forbidden....not that a car shouldnt be taken away from a DUI driver, or a gun at a crime scene, I dont mean it like that.

But yes of course you are right, most not need worry, but my personal standards are at the level that absolutely nobody should ever have to worry about that.
 
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Let's be clear though, Govt overreach is a real problem. But it is weird that we are so adamant to stop them here, when we don't care enough to stop data aggregation.

Google reminds me when bills are due and when/ where my flights/ holidays are. How does it know this? By scanning my emails and reading app data. It does make my life easier, but the fact it can easily get that info is pretty insane.
Yeah the world is getting creepier as I get older. Sometimes I wish I was born in 1866, well, not really but you know what I mean.
 
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They might pay the majority, but they still pay the lowest effective tax rate which is messed up. It doesn't matter that they pay the highest total amount, because even 1% of a Billion is still a whopping 10 Million. What matters is that Billionaires pay THE lowest effective tax rate, which means the lower classes have to compensate to make up the difference. That's BS.
My compromise, not that its my end goal but it would be to have a "flat tax" rate. Everybody flat blanket pays 20% for example, NO deductions, no BS, no charity write offs, no business deductions, no nothing. 20% flat, the more you make the more you pay. No loopholes, zero. Then we can help poor people by making the first 15-20k or so exempt from paying taxes.

Its really simple, its very fair and it would make the tax code so simplified that you would only need to write out your annual tax forms on a single piece of postcard.....btw on another note: the taxes on a signle piece of postcard is something Dump campaign promised 5 years ago to help him lie his way to office.
 
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Odds are it will probably not happen to most for sure, but this shouldnt happen to anybody, ever. And it does happen. Once society allows government to infringe on the liberties of one regardless of what you think of them, it usually continues from there rather than government having the fear of facing accountability when violating their Constitutional oaths. This is whats happening in America, and more intrusions of poor people will only lead to more problems.

My point is, it doesnt matter what how much of a reasonable doubt government has on an individual, seizure of money and private property prior to proper due prossess needs to always, and always be completely forbidden....not that a car shouldnt be taken away from a DUI driver, or a gun at a crime scene, I dont mean it like that.

But yes of course you are right, most not need worry, but my personal standards are at the level that absolutely nobody should ever have to worry about that.
That's fair and I get that for sure.
 
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My compromise, not that its my end goal but it would be to have a "flat tax" rate. Everybody flat blanket pays 20% for example, NO deductions, no BS, no charity write offs, no business deductions, no nothing. 20% flat, the more you make the more you pay. No loopholes, zero. Then we can help poor people by making the first 15-20k or so exempt from paying taxes.

Its really simple, its very fair and it would make the tax code so simplified that you would only need to write out your annual tax forms on a single piece of postcard.....btw on another note: the taxes on a signle piece of postcard is something Dump campaign promised 5 years ago to help him lie his way to office.
Yeah progressive tax is complex. I like the idea of a flat tax with no loopholes.
 
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Why do Dem-Libs get so obsessed with "effective tax rates". Money is money.

At the end of the day, say Bezos pays 10 million to the government in taxes, and his secretary pays 10,000. They both use the same government services, same roads, same military defense. But one guy is giving the government 1000 times more money for the same services.

So what if its a lower percent of the total earned?? HOW they come up with the amount of money means nothing, just word games, compared to how much total money is given in the end.

The top 1% pay 40% of the total of all taxes received. While almost half of the country pays nothing at all. Fair is disgustingly relative.

How about we spend less and tax everyone less? How about EVERYONE pays a little something into the pot each year, never zero.. and yeah, that should apply to corporations too.
they tax gasoline to maintain roads...in indiana it's 30 cents a gallon for regular and 41 cents for diesel + 18 cents per gallon federal tax on regular and 24 cents per gal of diesel...

i find it hard to believe that all this money is going to maintain streets and roads...

and then we have excise tax on booze and cigarettes---in 2019 states collected 7% of their total tax revenue from excise taxes on cigarettes, booze and gas....but after a time limited attempt i found it very difficult to find info on just how much excise tax is collected every year, but judging by gas, cigarette and booze sales it must be very considerable.
 
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and then we have excise tax on booze and cigarettes---in 2019 states collected 7% of their total tax revenue from excise taxes on cigarettes, booze and gas.
Ciggarette smoking is down thats probably why some state governments who terrorized pot head for years are all the sudden wanting to increase their "legal" drug product lines so they can keep their own money fix. Oh, but if you grow and sell your own crap without "permission" and surrender your income on it, your still a terrorist.
 
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I'm willing to wager you have no idea what this actually is. The ban are being asked to provide high-level data to catch out tax avoiders. I mean sure, it's just another privacy grab but it's nothing on what the private data collectors do to you every second you are connected to the internet.

At the end of the day if I'm paying a higher effective tax rate than Jeff Bezos, I would want to know why and what is being done to prevent that.

Aren't you guys mad that you give away such a huge chunk of your money to tax while the high earners are effectively paying 1% or less? Maybe not, but a lot of people are mad that the bottom % of earners have barely earned more money than have since the 1970s, while soon we will have Trillionaires in our midst. Of trickledown economics worked, then this wouldn't be happening.

If you actually cared about your privacy, then you wouldn't use the internet at all. Advertising meta-data knows everything about you.

That rewards cards you swipe at every shop are linked to an email which is sold to advertisers. Your phone knows who you spend time with, and creates ads based on what they like or are searching for.

This is nothing compared to that
you skipped over the part that concerns me---everyone with over $600 in savings account will be subject to all transactions being turned over to the government---i don't think the government could claim searching for illegally gained money dipping that low.

$600 is just about all Americans who will at some point every month have this amount in bank account...this is over reach, imo.
 
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I mean, most everyday citizens don't have to worry about their assets being frozen.

It is a bit sneaky given the evidence required is on the balance of probability vs. Beyond a reasonable doubt and that the person needs to prove innocence rather than for the prosecutors to prove guilt.
you got it right--if they freeze someone's assets then it's up to that someone to prove innocence--but this becomes very difficult to defend yourself if all of your assets are frozen.
 
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Yeah progressive tax is complex. I like the idea of a flat tax with no loopholes.
The whole idea of having poor people needing file taxes is absolutely retarded, on one hand they want to "help" poor people, on the other hand the government takes all this money before hand from the poor out of their paychecks and then give some of it back, assuming you "overpaid" at a later time. Its such wasted tax dollars on bureaucracy. They shouldnt even require employers to even issue documents on employees that only make a certain amount.
 
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The whole idea of having poor people needing file taxes is absolutely retarded, on one hand they want to "help" poor people, on the other hand the government takes all this money before hand from the poor out of their paychecks and then give some of it back, assuming you "overpaid" at a later time. Its such wasted tax dollars on bureaucracy. They shouldnt even require employers to even issue documents on employees that only make a certain amount.
i disagree on not requiring employers to file documents for ANY employee...SS benefits, unemployment benefits, disabilty and many other things the government bases off employers filing of employee earnings, and employers contribute to several of those things-unemployment in particular...

also many poor people look forward to getting that little bit back because many of them have children, and included in that little bit is earned income credit which for many poor is very substantial.
 
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biden gets ripped as 'economically illiterate' for claim that 'build back better costs zero dollars'.

even some of the LIBERAL media call him out on this.
 
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you skipped over the part that concerns me---everyone with over $600 in savings account will be subject to all transactions being turned over to the government---i don't think the government could claim searching for illegally gained money dipping that low.

$600 is just about all Americans who will at some point every month have this amount in bank account...this is over reach, imo.
Yeah I get that as well. Right idea, wrong approach.
 
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they tax gasoline to maintain roads...in indiana it's 30 cents a gallon for regular and 41 cents for diesel + 18 cents per gallon federal tax on regular and 24 cents per gal of diesel...

i find it hard to believe that all this money is going to maintain streets and roads...

and then we have excise tax on booze and cigarettes---in 2019 states collected 7% of their total tax revenue from excise taxes on cigarettes, booze and gas....but after a time limited attempt i found it very difficult to find info on just how much excise tax is collected every year, but judging by gas, cigarette and booze sales it must be very considerable.
In NZ they tax petrol which goes towards infrastructure, and we do see the benefit in our major hubs. Kind of lol.

Taxing petrol also gives more incentive to taking public transport or car pooling. Congestion is a huge time waster, and long ago I started using public transport and found it a huge benefit. Not only do we have bus specific roads that bypass congestion, I found I can make use of my time sitting on the bus by listening to podcasts or reading.

NZs public transport is pretty poor, so there's still HUGE improvements to be made but if im taxed more on petrol and see a direct benefit in improved public transportation AND reading then I'm happy all things considered. I mean, I'd rather not be taxed, but it's even worse being taxed and seeing nothing for it.

Our cigarette tax is insane. I don't smoke, but lordy it is extremely expensive to smoke these days.
 
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they tax gasoline to maintain roads...in indiana it's 30 cents a gallon for regular and 41 cents for diesel + 18 cents per gallon federal tax on regular and 24 cents per gal of diesel...

i find it hard to believe that all this money is going to maintain streets and roads...

and then we have excise tax on booze and cigarettes---in 2019 states collected 7% of their total tax revenue from excise taxes on cigarettes, booze and gas....but after a time limited attempt i found it very difficult to find info on just how much excise tax is collected every year, but judging by gas, cigarette and booze sales it must be very considerable.
Be thankful you do not have to buy gas in California. But remember, what occurs first in California usually winds up infecting the rest of the US.

Gas Taxes: Here’s the tax side of the ledger:
  • The federal government charges an excise tax of 18.4 cents per gallon.
  • California’s excise taxes on gasoline come to 50.5 cents per gallon. That includes 12.7 cents per gallon from a Senate Bill to improve infrastructure and develop transportation programs across the state.
  • Plus, there’s a state sales tax. It can vary by area but analysts estimate the sales tax averages 10.7 cents per gallon.
Put together, Californians pay 79.6 cents per gallon in gas taxes.

But hold on – because that’s not all – we have to add “fees”:
  • Underground Storage Tank fee of 2 cents per gallon – these fees are allegedly to clean up underground petroleum storage tanks across the state.
  • Fuels Under the Cap fee, which is part of the state’s cap and trade program that requires suppliers of polluting fuels to purchase allowances to offset the emissions that result from burning those fuels. The fee varies depending on the price of the cap and trade allowances and currently comes to 14.3 cents per gallon.
  • Low Carbon Fuel Standard, which requires suppliers of fuels with high carbon intensity to purchase credits from makers of fuels with lower carbon, such as ethanol and biodiesel. This fee also varies but using recent prices, Stillwater estimated it at 22.6 cents a gallon.
All told, the fees come to 38.9 cents per gallon.

Add that to the 79.6 cents in taxes, and California drivers pay $1.185 — or rounded to $1.19 — per gallon in taxes and fees.

Everyone loses. Well ... not everyone ..., right Gavin?
 
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Be thankful you do not have to buy gas in California. But remember, what occurs first in California usually winds up infecting the rest of the US.

Gas Taxes: Here’s the tax side of the ledger:
  • The federal government charges an excise tax of 18.4 cents per gallon.
  • California’s excise taxes on gasoline come to 50.5 cents per gallon. That includes 12.7 cents per gallon from a Senate Bill to improve infrastructure and develop transportation programs across the state.
  • Plus, there’s a state sales tax. It can vary by area but analysts estimate the sales tax averages 10.7 cents per gallon.
Put together, Californians pay 79.6 cents per gallon in gas taxes.

But hold on – because that’s not all – we have to add “fees”:
  • Underground Storage Tank fee of 2 cents per gallon – these fees are allegedly to clean up underground petroleum storage tanks across the state.
  • Fuels Under the Cap fee, which is part of the state’s cap and trade program that requires suppliers of polluting fuels to purchase allowances to offset the emissions that result from burning those fuels. The fee varies depending on the price of the cap and trade allowances and currently comes to 14.3 cents per gallon.
  • Low Carbon Fuel Standard, which requires suppliers of fuels with high carbon intensity to purchase credits from makers of fuels with lower carbon, such as ethanol and biodiesel. This fee also varies but using recent prices, Stillwater estimated it at 22.6 cents a gallon.
All told, the fees come to 38.9 cents per gallon.

Add that to the 79.6 cents in taxes, and California drivers pay $1.185 — or rounded to $1.19 — per gallon in taxes and fees.

Everyone loses. Well ... not everyone ..., right Gavin?
california and NY are liberal states...unfortunately now that that liberals have ruined those states they are fleeing in large numbers, and still voting for liberals---if liberals are so smart why do they keep repeating same mistakes?
 
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i disagree on not requiring employers to file documents for ANY employee...SS benefits, unemployment benefits, disabilty and many other things the government bases off employers filing of employee earnings, and employers contribute to several of those things-unemployment in particular...

also many poor people look forward to getting that little bit back because many of them have children, and included in that little bit is earned income credit which for many poor is very substantial.
Actually I forgot about those extras, I assume if they are going to claim it at some point they need to buy into it, so yeah I see how it would need to be all documented and paid for.

I dont get the needing money back though, isnt that whats taken from them? Outside of the social benefits whats the point of poor paying taxes only to get it back? If they need money exempt them other than the benefits everyone buys in on and doesnt get back.
 
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Actually I forgot about those extras, I assume if they are going to claim it at some point they need to buy into it, so yeah I see how it would need to be all documented and paid for.

I dont get the needing money back though, isnt that whats taken from them? Outside of the social benefits whats the point of poor paying taxes only to get it back? If they need money exempt them other than the benefits everyone buys in on and doesnt get back.
i think the amount of EIC they get back far exceeds the amount they would have coming, particularly for the poor. i also think it is done this way because they get more EIC money for each eligible child.
 
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Wow this is fascinating. Haven’t finished this but posting as it’s getting taken down very quickly apparently
 
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i think the amount of EIC they get back far exceeds the amount they would have coming, particularly for the poor. i also think it is done this way because they get more EIC money for each eligible child.
Is that why so many poor people who cant afford children prefer the life of being baby factories?
 
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Wow this is fascinating. Haven’t finished this but posting as it’s getting taken down very quickly apparently
great article...i got the vast majority but got a little lost on some of the medical terminology at the end...

maybe @Ricky10 could translate?
 
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Is that why so many poor people who cant afford children prefer the life of being baby factories?
maybe, but since EIC is only once a year i suspect welfare, section 9 housing and food stamps play a larger role with the amount of children poor women have....
 
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maybe, but since EIC is only once a year i suspect welfare, section 9 housing and food stamps play a larger role with the amount of children poor women have....
Not too far where Im from there is a Jewish village called Kiryas Joel consisting of pretty much all Hasidic Jews. These people are baby machines, they pop out babies out of everywhere. Baby strollers appear to be a fashionable piece. Every time we drive back from the city at nigh we look for beat up mini-vans, messed up bumpers, scraped up dented sides, and stuff....98 out of 100 times its the Hasidic Jews behind the wheel.

Anyways, whats interesting is and you will understand by baby machines, the youngest population in all of the USA, and it is also the most impoverished nation in all of the USA. This is how crazy it is, "the youngest, at 13.2 years old, of any population center of over 5,000 residents in the United States."

Being that they are the most impoverished people in our entire country, why dont we see them lighting police stations on fire and looting Targets?
 
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Not too far where Im from there is a Jewish village called Kiryas Joel consisting of pretty much all Hasidic Jews. These people are baby machines, they pop out babies out of everywhere. Baby strollers appear to be a fashionable piece. Every time we drive back from the city at nigh we look for beat up mini-vans, messed up bumpers, scraped up dented sides, and stuff....98 out of 100 times its the Hasidic Jews behind the wheel.

Anyways, whats interesting is and you will understand by baby machines, the youngest population in all of the USA, and it is also the most impoverished nation in all of the USA. This is how crazy it is, "the youngest, at 13.2 years old, of any population center of over 5,000 residents in the United States."

Being that they are the most impoverished people in our entire country, why dont we see them lighting police stations on fire and looting Targets?
that is fascinating....this village gives new meaning to 'all politics are local'.
 
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that is fascinating....this village gives new meaning to 'all politics are local'.
And even with all that being the most impoverished area in the country, there are no homeless people, no ghetto area, not junkies hanging on the sidewalk and crime is almost non-existent.
 
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Not too far where Im from there is a Jewish village called Kiryas Joel consisting of pretty much all Hasidic Jews. These people are baby machines, they pop out babies out of everywhere. Baby strollers appear to be a fashionable piece. Every time we drive back from the city at nigh we look for beat up mini-vans, messed up bumpers, scraped up dented sides, and stuff....98 out of 100 times its the Hasidic Jews behind the wheel.
I guess I can see the hasidics having tons of kids due to some religious belief. But why the damaged cars??? I thought the stereotype was that Asians were the bad drivers..... 😃 😀 😄 😁

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