Dienolone log

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Going to log a dienolone cycle here. I just started it 2 days ago. Here's the cycle:

6 weeks
Dienolone acetate injectable 50mg per day
Testosterone enanthate 150mg per week
Masteron blend of propionate and enanthate 100mg per week

Last 3 weeks halotestin 20mg per day

Goal of the cycle is a lean bulk, starting weight 188lbs. I have used dienolone once before. I can't remember the exact dose but I think it was the same. Loved it EXCEPT, it made my old gyno like triple in size. When I ended the cycle though the gyno immediately went back down to its old normal size, that's been there for years. So it caused the gyno to swell but no permanent increase in size, which was good. Still I'm scared going in to this. Which is why I added the masteron. I hope it can somehow protect against gyno. I also have AI on hand. Halosltestin I have never used before. I know it's more for strength and not looks. Certainly not for bulking. But I still want to give it a shot because I have it on hand and want to try it.

So that's pretty much it, if anyone has any input they want to give, go for it. Not much out there at all on this dienolone, so this should add some info for all experimental types out there.
 
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Not sure if the dose will warrant it with the addition of mast, but I’d maybe have some ralox on hand just in case the gyno takes off. Don’t know your feelings on ralox use but I definitely needed it when I ran dien. Caber or prami on hand is also a good idea, but I personally didn’t need it with P5P onboard. That said, I absolutely loved training on dien and have plenty for future blasts. You’re right though, not a ton of info out there and even fewer logs. Have a good run man, and hope it treats you well 🤘🤘
 
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Not sure if the dose will warrant it with the addition of mast, but I’d maybe have some ralox on hand just in case the gyno takes off. Don’t know your feelings on ralox use but I definitely needed it when I ran dien. Caber or prami on hand is also a good idea, but I personally didn’t need it with P5P onboard. That said, I absolutely loved training on dien and have plenty for future blasts. You’re right though, not a ton of info out there and even fewer logs. Have a good run man, and hope it treats you well 🤘🤘
Thanks, yea I want to get some p5p. How much you recommend per day?

Also what did you mean as far as the Masteron? I didn't quite get what your saying. Are you saying the masteron dose is too low to do anything?
 
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Thanks, yea I want to get some p5p. How much you recommend per day?

Also what did you mean as far as the Masteron? I didn't quite get what your saying. Are you saying the masteron dose is too low to do anything?
I took double the “recommended” amount of SNS Inhibit-P. Maybe overkill, maybe not, but I didn’t feel that I needed to hit the big guns for prolactin control. I think you could forego that specific route and just grab some regular P5P, but I like SNS. I don’t recall off hand what their dosing is.

No I think the mast could certainly help with E control to a degree, so you might not necessarily need to hit ralox. Especially if it keeps your gyno under control. I didn’t run the two together so it’ll be interesting to see how the mast helps with E in this scenario. I think it was you who ran a short, low dose cycle a while ago (?) so I won’t say you need to up the mast since you had good results, although it is commonly recommended to run it equal to your test dose. Low doses for the win if you’re getting results.
 
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I used dienelone enanthate last winter. Awesome run; absolutely loved the feel on it. Got harder to sleep, need gyno control, terrible for my lipids, but felt great and awesome strength and metabolic effects. I recomped/cut very well. Bodyweight & fat came down and added a lot of muscle & some strength.

I used 210 test e, 400-500 dien e, & added some TLB150 at the end with S23 preWO.

I felt like going up from 400 to 500mg only increased sides and I was getting great results at 400mg the first half of the run so I would not recommend going up with it further - 350 acetate is going to do a ton of work. You would be better off driving up masteron & testosterone if you need more gear later on.

I cannot see a good reason for you to be using halotestin at all, unless you just hate your liver. It adds zero muscle; it is a competition drug for strength contest or grainy conditioning on stage, or the aggression to plow through a brutal deficit diet. Sell it and get probably any other oral and you’ll be better off for your goals. Not exaggerating.
 
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I took double the “recommended” amount of SNS Inhibit-P. Maybe overkill, maybe not, but I didn’t feel that I needed to hit the big guns for prolactin control. I think you could forego that specific route and just grab some regular P5P, but I like SNS. I don’t recall off hand what their dosing is.

No I think the mast could certainly help with E control to a degree, so you might not necessarily need to hit ralox. Especially if it keeps your gyno under control. I didn’t run the two together so it’ll be interesting to see how the mast helps with E in this scenario. I think it was you who ran a short, low dose cycle a while ago (?) so I won’t say you need to up the mast since you had good results, although it is commonly recommended to run it equal to your test dose. Low doses for the win if you’re getting results.
Yea I have a deca only log of 600mg a week, so wouldn't call it low dose. But I used no test. I just got some p5p even though it's in a b complex. I rather if I could have it by itself but it's all the store had, oh well.
 
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I cannot see a good reason for you to be using halotestin at all, unless you just hate your liver. It adds zero muscle; it is a competition drug for strength contest or grainy conditioning on stage, or the aggression to plow through a brutal deficit diet. Sell it and get probably any other oral and you’ll be better off for your goals. Not exaggerating.
I hear you. I'm not really expecting much from it. I haven't started it yet. I'll keep in mind what you are saying and maybe finish with another oral we will see. Thing is, not saying this is smart, but for me I kind it have this thing about experimenting. I want to try like most anabolic just to see how I react to them. But I know halo is harsh and not really fitting my cycle goals.
 
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I hear you. I'm not really expecting much from it. I haven't started it yet. I'll keep in mind what you are saying and maybe finish with another oral we will see. Thing is, not saying this is smart, but for me I kind it have this thing about experimenting. I want to try like most anabolic just to see how I react to them. But I know halo is harsh and not really fitting my cycle goals.
So spend $40 on some M1A or something?

Ooh, better yet, you wanna experiment grab some injectable YK11. Perfect oral for the end of a cycle to push some further size, and you will already be using prolactin control. Win-win.
 
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Yea I have a deca only log of 600mg a week, so wouldn't call it low dose. But I used no test. I just got some p5p even though it's in a b complex. I rather if I could have it by itself but it's all the store had, oh well.
Oh, must have confused you with someone else or got the details wrong in my head. Good move with the P5P, I will personally use it with all future 19nors.
 

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I see people are running 400-500 injectable dienolone a week here. How woukd that compare to transdermal dienolone? Would 400 injectable be equivalent to about 700 transdermal dienogen?
 
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I see people are running 400-500 injectable dienolone a week here. How woukd that compare to transdermal dienolone? Would 400 injectable be equivalent to about 700 transdermal dienogen?
I'm not really sure. I think it's somewhat of a decent guess the number you gave. In general I haven't gotten on well with transdermals. They are messy, seem not to absorb well with me. I don't know if that could be genetic on my part? Thick skin? Or small pores or something idk.

I actually do have trandermal dien on hand as well as oral. So I could use all 3 versions together if I wanted lol.
 
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I'm not really sure. I think it's somewhat of a decent guess the number you gave. In general I haven't gotten on well with transdermals. They are messy, seem not to absorb well with me. I don't know if that could be genetic on my part? Thick skin? Or small pores or something idk.

I actually do have trandermal dien on hand as well as oral. So I could use all 3 versions together if I wanted lol.
You could do eod pinning and t/d on the off days if you wanted to cut down on shots.

I hate committing to t/d. I just don’t get it on clean skin consistently like it should.
 
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Day 6

Not much to report but I've been feeling very positive while training. I'm enjoying my workouts. However I did also start this new training plan with the cycle, so starting something new could have something to do with that. I also went into this cycle with a bum shoulder. So hard training I can't really do.

Last night horrid insomnia. Could not sleep at all. Had to take a benzo in order to sleep. Those always work for me. However I put in my cycle notes, that I'm keeping. That just before the cycle started I had not been sleeping well. Last night it was the worst though.

So in summary, it's early but insomnia possibly made worse from dien. Good vibes in the gym. And also pumps seem better. That's all guys. Hope you had a good weekend.
 
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Day 16

Not sure if people are still following along. But I'll give updates.

I'm now 190lbs. That's only up 2lbs in 16 days lol. For years now I've fallen into the trap of just wanting to stay lean at the cost of gains. I tell myself I'll eat way more next cycle. That cycle comes and I'm still a timid eater.

Anyways though i feel really good in the gym. Can train long without feeling gassed doing many sets. It's really nice
The pumps are really full. Increase I'm veins. Even though naturally I'm probably on the higher veiny side as well. Not crazy but higher than average.

No signs of gyno, which is great because last time dien gave me gyno. I think the masteron is doing its job. I increased the test to 200mg though. Think I was showing signs of low e2.
Sleep is still good awful, need drugs to sleep for the most part. Thats the only side.. This was starting right before cycle though...but definitely got worse on cycle.

Really positive and happy while training and looking good.
 
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If you are trying to grow, eat a little more. Ideally clean food, but realistically just pick out something you can stick to that’s 4-500 calories and eat that every day on top of what you are doing. I mean this can be a PBJ sandwich, a cliff bar & an RTD protein drink, a bag of beef jerky, anything you can consistently easily access and get through that is a simple, manageable addition for you.
 
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If you are trying to grow, eat a little more. Ideally clean food, but realistically just pick out something you can stick to that’s 4-500 calories and eat that every day on top of what you are doing. I mean this can be a PBJ sandwich, a cliff bar & an RTD protein drink, a bag of beef jerky, anything you can consistently easily access and get through that is a simple, manageable addition for you.
Yea I know I need to. I'm thinking at the 3 week mark or soon adding an oral. Initially was going to be halotestin. With everyone saying it's a poor choice though, it may be superdrol. I have options.
 
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Yea I know I need to. I'm thinking at the 3 week mark or soon adding an oral. Initially was going to be halotestin. With everyone saying it's a poor choice though, it may be superdrol. I have options.
You need to add some Caloribol or Fooditropin before you add any more drugs, dog.

You add Superdrol right now and you will straight up be on a cut.
 

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Im glad you updated. Ill be following this one closely. Im going to be running dienolone here soon
 
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I've been wanting to try inj dien. I never know where to find it!!
 
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