Dermacrine and TRT

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I would assume the 1-Andro to be responsible for most of the effects you described. Mood probably from the DHEA and preg. But I'd be pretty surprised, if you have low E2, when you're on trt + the DHEA in Derma + the DHEA in I1.
Yeah, I also doubt it, I was just spitballing at ideas. I've been taking preg for about 8 years now, but never TD and while I can't single it out in a stack, I feel that it is used more efficiently than sublingual because I am not getting the ups and downs in energy, it is just smooth feel good.
 

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Sounds like it's kicked in good mate nice one. How many pumps you running? Gonna hit the Icon One/4-Andro in a few weeks then onto Nano 1-T and 4-AD as a finisher. I better grab me some Taurine then.
5 pumps, but honestly it could be more because depending on how you use the dispenser will vary on how much you get. A slow push will dispense about half as much as a normal push like you would for lotion or whatever. So I am tracking on the side measure guide as best possible and it looks like I may get about 23-24 days out of it instead of 28.
 

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5 pumps, but honestly it could be more because depending on how you use the dispenser will vary on how much you get. A slow push will dispense about half as much as a normal push like you would for lotion or whatever. So I am tracking on the side measure guide as best possible and it looks like I may get about 23-24 days out of it instead of 28.
Great feed back cheers. Yes it's always going to be tough to gauge but having used Dermacrine numerous times I found the gauge pretty much spot on and even had a little left over previously. Looking forward to seeing how the rest of your cycle goes.
 
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Subbed. For comparison, how many mg of sublingual preg were you using previously, and did you break the daily dose up any or just once a day?
 

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Got the taurine mixed in and already feeling better.

It has been years since running any PH or andro and I forgot how quickly the strength gains kick in. I am literally blasting by previous volume ranges with 10-15% increases in weight. Had to up calories because I've been starving the last 4 days. Looking and feeling solid. Veins are popping everywhere and for me, there is nothing more ego boosting than seeing veins in your calves, thighs, and obviously forearms. I bought 2 tanks of propane and farmer walked them to my truck at the end of the lot and forearms, traps, and delts were all swollen. I never gain a ton of size or get shredded on PH, but I now remember the absolute monster feel of the muscle swelling. Mood is fantastic and water weight is gone, I attribute this to the Dermacrine.

Right now, I couldn't be happier with what I am experiencing in 2 weeks. Everything is just starting up and I believe if I get my diet dialed in more and add in necessary macros, I will be banging at the end and ready for Mexico. I'm a realist and know that this is how my runs go, I start really fast and then level out around week 4-5, so let's see if this holds true this time.
 
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Got the taurine mixed in and already feeling better.

It has been years since running any PH or andro and I forgot how quickly the strength gains kick in. I am literally blasting by previous volume ranges with 10-15% increases in weight. Had to up calories because I've been starving the last 4 days. Looking and feeling solid. Veins are popping everywhere and for me, there is nothing more ego boosting than seeing veins in your calves, thighs, and obviously forearms. I bought 2 tanks of propane and farmer walked them to my truck at the end of the lot and forearms, traps, and delts were all swollen. I never gain a ton of size or get shredded on PH, but I now remember the absolute monster feel of the muscle swelling. Mood is fantastic and water weight is gone, I attribute this to the Dermacrine.

Right now, I couldn't be happier with what I am experiencing in 2 weeks. Everything is just starting up and I believe if I get my diet dialed in more and add in necessary macros, I will be banging at the end and ready for Mexico. I'm a realist and know that this is how my runs go, I start really fast and then level out around week 4-5, so let's see if this holds true this time.
Glad this is working out so well
For you.
 

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How is the run going @kisaj ?
I knew I meant to come in for a follow up. So I ended up staying with the Dermacrine and like it as it provides a subtle mood boost that last longer than the sublingual and I don't see e2 sides if I go a little high. Sleep has remained improved so it's been good.

I ended up dropping the Icon One because I started to feel agitated easily and my libido was shot. I played with the dosage and lowered it, but then I lost the nice strength improvement after 4-5 days so I saw no point. It took me about 7-8 days to get libido back so I can only attribute it to the PH. It had some nice benefits but it wasn't worth the sides for me.

I have 3 bottles available if someone that does well with Andro wanted to buy.
 
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I knew I meant to come in for a follow up. So I ended up staying with the Dermacrine and like it as it provides a subtle mood boost that last longer than the sublingual and I don't see e2 sides if I go a little high. Sleep has remained improved so it's been good.

I ended up dropping the Icon One because I started to feel agitated easily and my libido was shot. I played with the dosage and lowered it, but then I lost the nice strength improvement after 4-5 days so I saw no point. It took me about 7-8 days to get libido back so I can only attribute it to the PH. It had some nice benefits but it wasn't worth the sides for me.

I have 3 bottles available if someone that does well with Andro wanted to buy.
How Many pumps of dermacrine? Can't remember. I felt 3 was a nice little trt boost without screwing things up
 

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I'm 215 so using 4 soft pushes. I found that the amount varies a lot depending on how you push the applicator. A quick depress expelled a bit more. I tried what would have been the equivalent of about 5-6 and was buzzing hard for a few hours, it was too much for me.
 

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