Cutting Log

[Dustin07]

Next time around hit me up for some ideas. Im trying to work on making some moves to do more online training and i need some test monkeys willing to log stuff.

I might be interested in hitting you up for a short 6-12 week cut, I don't want to do a contest prep like Kleen but I'm interested in see what I could do with the accountability of a coach in the new year for a short cut.

 

[Resolve10]

You have to ask yourself what you want, do you want a friend or a coach?

Now a friend can be your coach and a coach can down the road become a friend, but honestly do you need constant responses?

I don't mean this in like a negative do you need it (and implying you don't), but in a you need to think about what you want out of the scenario kind of thing.

I come from this looking at both sides, but honestly the psychology of coaching is one of the bigger aspects people neglect. You should seek out an individual who not only can provide the X+Y of programming, but who you can connect on a philosophical level about how they arrive at choices, how they communicate, and who can fulfill the specific needs you have (and remember everyone is different your needs are your needs don't feel dissuaded or like you need to be like anyone else).

I say this because I am very close with the individual who writes my training. It is probably more of a collaborative effort, but at the same time the way we work there may be times when we are just in a groove and he is just making weekly updates as needed and I may literally not even talk to him about my training for a couple months. Other times we are tweaking and have lots of back and forth, so it can vary.

Sorry for the long post, just basically saying if you change be real about the expectations you have and try to find someone that fits the mold you personally need. There are lots of coaches out there, too many are absolute garbage, but when a fit doesn't work that doesn't mean they are bad either. Good luck!

 

[Smont]

He's lying, there is a mandatory 1 time order of a prime cut tomohawk steak to be sent to his, or MY house should he not want it.

45 day dry aged!

 

[Smont]

I’d be down to be a Guinea pig! You clearly know your stuff, i prepaid through the next couple months with him but when that’s up I am a free agent so to speak lol

I can change the log and start a new one to pick up where we begin if we do end up doing that. I can do email/text/call/FaceTime whatever!

Thats perfect. That will put you close to spring anyways. Shoot me a dm in a few months.

I might be interested in hitting you up for a short 6-12 week cut, I don't want to do a contest prep like Kleen but I'm interested in see what I could do with the accountability of a coach in the new year for a short cut.

I was gonna bring it up in the spring and see if anyone was interested. Even if its just bouncing ideas and check ins. Il talk about it more in one of my logs so im not clogging this up.

 

[rascal14]

Silly me for thinking that I was going to get away with no back pumps


11/20/23
Pulls ups (warmup) 2xfailure
Body weight-10,7.5

1 arm pull down 1 max set 8 reps (60 sec rest same weight to failure then 3 drop set)
40-12 55-8 85-8
85-8 70-5 55-5 40-6 no straps

Pull ups 2xfailure
Body weight-3,3

Chest supported row machine MTS 1 max set 12 reps (60 sec rest same weight to failure then 3 drop set) (straps)
115-8 130-12 had to use machine
130-16 115-12 100-10 85-12 then partials

Warmup lying (seated only) hamstring curls 2x15-20
40-20,20

Smith machine bent over row work to 1 max set 8-10 reps
25-12 70-8 110-8 160-6 (form fell off) straps last set 110-8 good form with straps

Smith machine RDLs or deadlift (alternate) 1 max set of 10 reps
110-8 160-6 220-2 feeler reps 220-6 back pumps 200-2 back pumps too bad - straps RDLs

20 minutes 9 incline 3.2mph

 

[rascal14]

You have to ask yourself what you want, do you want a friend or a coach?

Now a friend can be your coach and a coach can down the road become a friend, but honestly do you need constant responses?

I don't mean this in like a negative do you need it (and implying you don't), but in a you need to think about what you want out of the scenario kind of thing.

I come from this looking at both sides, but honestly the psychology of coaching is one of the bigger aspects people neglect. You should seek out an individual who not only can provide the X+Y of programming, but who you can connect on a philosophical level about how they arrive at choices, how they communicate, and who can fulfill the specific needs you have (and remember everyone is different your needs are your needs don't feel dissuaded or like you need to be like anyone else).

I say this because I am very close with the individual who writes my training. It is probably more of a collaborative effort, but at the same time the way we work there may be times when we are just in a groove and he is just making weekly updates as needed and I may literally not even talk to him about my training for a couple months. Other times we are tweaking and have lots of back and forth, so it can vary.

Sorry for the long post, just basically saying if you change be real about the expectations you have and try to find someone that fits the mold you personally need. There are lots of coaches out there, too many are absolute garbage, but when a fit doesn't work that doesn't mean they are bad either. Good luck!

I absolutely appreciate the post! I agree with you - I do think he’s an awesome coach and personally have no issues with the way he communicates or works with me, I just felt like the one response from him I share made him look a bit bad or unprofessional and that’s not what I was intending at all so I wanted to clarify.
I was thinking of switching out of pure curiosity mostly.

 

[akboom87]

Silly me for thinking that I was going to get away with no back pumps


11/20/23
Pulls ups (warmup) 2xfailure
Body weight-10,7.5

1 arm pull down 1 max set 8 reps (60 sec rest same weight to failure then 3 drop set)
40-12 55-8 85-8
85-8 70-5 55-5 40-6 no straps

Pull ups 2xfailure
Body weight-3,3

Chest supported row machine MTS 1 max set 12 reps (60 sec rest same weight to failure then 3 drop set) (straps)
115-8 130-12 had to use machine
130-16 115-12 100-10 85-12 then partials

Warmup lying (seated only) hamstring curls 2x15-20
40-20,20

Smith machine bent over row work to 1 max set 8-10 reps
25-12 70-8 110-8 160-6 (form fell off) straps last set 110-8 good form with straps

Smith machine RDLs or deadlift (alternate) 1 max set of 10 reps
110-8 160-6 220-2 feeler reps 220-6 back pumps 200-2 back pumps too bad - straps RDLs

20 minutes 9 incline 3.2mph

Pretty good looking session!

 

[rascal14]

Went ahead and ordered some taurine caps, will see if it actually helps any this go around. Hoping being leaner and staying plenty hydrated and keeping on top of electrolytes will help as well.

 

[rascal14]

Did chest tonight - same numbers as I hit 5 days ago, but I was feeling a bit off. Pinched nerve in my back acting up and my joints have been rough lately for the first time in a very long time. A couple days off here this week will be good for me for sure.

 

[Dustin07]

A couple days off here this week will be good for me for sure.

it's gonna serve us all well, it's hard to do though...

 

[rascal14]

it's gonna serve us all well, it's hard to do though...

Certainly makes me feel worse knowing I’ll be eating like **** (relative to current diet) but then I’m also going on vacation so I’m going to continue the chaos a few more days, still hitting the gym though and will get plenty of cardio in.

Got my Glycophase packed up and ready to pop em like tic tacs over the next week!

 

[MrKleen73]

Enjoy your holiday and vacation.

 

[Hyde]

Certainly makes me feel worse knowing I’ll be eating like **** (relative to current diet) but then I’m also going on vacation so I’m going to continue the chaos a few more days, still hitting the gym though and will get plenty of cardio in.

Got my Glycophase packed up and ready to pop em like tic tacs over the next week!

Portion control is key for me. I like to set some rules ahead of time. For myself, I will avoid eating snacks like crackers/dips or anything until the meal begins (that stuff isn’t special), unless there’s a veggie tray or something. Then when we eat, I get what I want and I don’t get seconds. When I have dessert, I decide ahead of time what looks best and stick with that. I don’t try everything. And I don’t drink any calories.

Then the rest of the day, aside from periWO, I stick to lean protein only if I eat any more. Shakes, chicken breast, leftover turkey, canned tuna, thawed shrimp, Greek yogurt, etc. Obviously veggies are game.

This lets me eat everything I love with my family, not missing out on anything, without absolutely blowing the day out of the water.

Beyond trying to curb the damage, I don’t worry about it. You never know how many days you get, so enjoy your holiday!

 

[rascal14]

Enjoy your holiday and vacation.

thank you sir!

Portion control is key for me. I like to set some rules ahead of time. For myself, I will avoid eating snacks like crackers/dips or anything until the meal begins (that stuff isn’t special), unless there’s a veggie tray or something. Then when we eat, I get what I want and I don’t get seconds. When I have dessert, I decide ahead of time what looks best and stick with that. I don’t try everything. And I don’t drink any calories.

Then the rest of the day, aside from periWO, I stick to lean protein only if I eat any more. Shakes, chicken breast, leftover turkey, canned tuna, thawed shrimp, Greek yogurt, etc. Obviously veggies are game.

This lets me eat everything I love with my family, not missing out on anything, without absolutely blowing the day out of the water.

Beyond trying to curb the damage, I don’t worry about it. You never know how many days you get, so enjoy your holiday!

luckily (I think) I’m not big on thanksgiving, the sweets is what will get me but my plan is to stick to Turkey/ham in the beginning since those will be the main things I enjoy and then try and be mindful of the sweets after I’m full of meat.

in Chicago, my wife and I love to try various foods and restaurants when we go it’s our “tradition” and kind of our anniversary trip because that’s where we got engaged, so I’m not going to go overboard but I know I can always reverse any damage. I’m in a better spot than I’ve ever been so I have motivation to stay that way, but I also see it as a way to still sneak in some extra hard workouts and eat to grow. We plan to share meals everywhere so we aren’t buying 2 entrees and finishing unnecessary amounts of food, this still lets us try everything we want but keeps portion under control like you said.

 

[MrKleen73]

thank you sir!



luckily (I think) I’m not big on thanksgiving, the sweets is what will get me but my plan is to stick to Turkey/ham in the beginning since those will be the main things I enjoy and then try and be mindful of the sweets after I’m full of meat.

in Chicago, my wife and I love to try various foods and restaurants when we go it’s our “tradition” and kind of our anniversary trip because that’s where we got engaged, so I’m not going to go overboard but I know I can always reverse any damage. I’m in a better spot than I’ve ever been so I have motivation to stay that way, but I also see it as a way to still sneak in some extra hard workouts and eat to grow. We plan to share meals everywhere so we aren’t buying 2 entrees and finishing unnecessary amounts of food, this still lets us try everything we want but keeps portion under control like you said.

Good, this sounds like a better plan than I am going to eat like sh*t then extend the chaos more days. I just wasn't going to chime in and tell you not to go overboard and mess up your hard earned progress. Hyde found a way to do it without calling you out personally which was awesome! Definitely enjoy yourself but know you can only get away with a couple days without doing some damage that will take a week or two to correct. Unfortunately we can gain fat WAY FASTER than you can burn it or gain muscle. Fat is attracted to fat, you don't even need insulin to get fat into a fat cell they just have to touch while the fat cell thinks it needs filled back up. Like right now it does. So be careful since it is an extended period of possible surplus.

 

[Hyde]

thank you sir!



luckily (I think) I’m not big on thanksgiving, the sweets is what will get me but my plan is to stick to Turkey/ham in the beginning since those will be the main things I enjoy and then try and be mindful of the sweets after I’m full of meat.

in Chicago, my wife and I love to try various foods and restaurants when we go it’s our “tradition” and kind of our anniversary trip because that’s where we got engaged, so I’m not going to go overboard but I know I can always reverse any damage. I’m in a better spot than I’ve ever been so I have motivation to stay that way, but I also see it as a way to still sneak in some extra hard workouts and eat to grow. We plan to share meals everywhere so we aren’t buying 2 entrees and finishing unnecessary amounts of food, this still lets us try everything we want but keeps portion under control like you said.

Something to consider in Chicago too, if downtown there are plenty of homeless. So if you get a deep dish but don’t want to house that entire monster, give your leftovers to someone on the street.

 

[MrKleen73]

Something to consider in Chicago too, if downtown there are plenty of homeless. So if you get a deep dish but don’t want to house that entire monster, give your leftovers to someone on the street.

Last time I got a pizza in Austin I was accosted as i left the parlor by a homeless woman how told me I was heartless and mean because I didn't give her my last 2 pieces of pizza I had saved for my dinner that evening. They shouldn't be hard to find in a place like Chicago.

 

[Hyde]

Last time I got a pizza in Austin I was accosted as i left the parlor by a homeless woman how told me I was heartless and mean because I didn't give her my last 2 pieces of pizza I had saved for my dinner that evening. They shouldn't be hard to find in a place like Chicago.

I kind of hate Chicagoland

 

[MrKleen73]

I kind of hate Chicagoland

I only liked that fact I could get edibles legally while there. LMAO!

 

[rascal14]

You guys are crazy! Or maybe I am lol I don’t like big cities but I love Chicago.

 

[rascal14]

Something to consider in Chicago too, if downtown there are plenty of homeless. So if you get a deep dish but don’t want to house that entire monster, give your leftovers to someone on the street.

Yeah we are staying downtown the entire time. We’ve had our countless homeless encounters but I always just ignored them, got used to it working in Dallas.
But while I love to give when I can, when it comes to pizza, I’m saving that for when I am about to lay down at midnight and remember “oh yeah there’s 2 slices of pizza left”.

absolutely love me some cold leftover pizza. BUT, I am being mindful, I’m not afraid to put on some fat now that we are starting to “bulk” obviously extra fat is going to make the next cut worse, but as long as I don’t get to the point I was before (which I literally will not let happen) I am okay with a 12-15 week cut. 20-25 weeks is where I hit my limit this last time.

That is not an excuse to binge this week, though. I’m still learning to manage I don’t have to eat until I’m full. I will feel full a few minutes later.