Creatine and epicatenchin both are lowering down myostatin , maybe together have better results .anyone tried this combination?
I’d wager a bet most people taking epicatechin also take creatine (at least they should be).Creatine and epicatenchin both are lowering down myostatin , maybe together have better results .anyone tried this combination?
yes, I'm currently logging EpiChaos , A epicatechin TD and I do supplement with creatine mono.Creatine and epicatenchin both are lowering down myostatin , maybe together have better results .anyone tried this combination?
Agreed with this. Benefits of taking both together will definitely be present but I don't know if you can compare and say it has similar effects as myostatin inhibitor.I’d wager a bet most people taking epicatechin also take creatine (at least they should be).
You should pretty obviously get better benefits of creatine + epicatechin than epicatechin on its own, but it would be pretty tough to equate that to myostatin benefits.
According to what? What exists that conclusively says it cannot inhibit myostatin enough to aid in lean mass gain?Epicatechin cannot be said to be an actual inhibitor of myostatin at least to any degree that muscle gain will occur as a result.
What exists that says it can?According to what? What exists that conclusively says it cannot inhibit myostatin enough to aid in lean mass gain?
This references two studies mainly, one mice and one human.Effects of (−)-epicatechin on molecular modulators of skeletal muscle growth and differentiation
Sarcopenia is a notable and debilitating age-associated condition. Flavonoids are known for their healthy effects and limited toxicity. The flavanol (−)-epicatechin (Epi) enhances exercise capacity in mice and Epi-rich cocoa improves skeletal ...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
You didn’t actually read the study I posted then.Another rat study, but interesting.
I don't believe there is enough evidence to make a blanket statement saying it has absolutely no effect on myostayin/follistatin ratios.
the fact that they not even able to do it with drugs for duchenne muscular dystrophy. but tea and chocolate can! (or fertilized velociraptor eggs or something) - if only those poor parents knew! epicatechin have one horrible bad study on old men squeezing, by nestle' chocolate as far as muscle go - that it - despite all the promises of more study to prove, none appear that i see (in people, pref athletes). like above, it healthy to take, but supps targeted at myostatin are joke. carl lenore talk about this occasional - he talk to guy who found myostatin - listen what he say.According to what? What exists that conclusively says it cannot inhibit myostatin enough to aid in lean mass gain?
Haha this.the fact that they not even able to do it with drugs for duchenne muscular dystrophy. but tea and chocolate can! (or fertilized velociraptor eggs or something) - if only those poor parents knew! epicatechin have one horrible bad study on old men squeezing, by nestle' chocolate as far as muscle go - that it - despite all the promises of more study to prove, none appear that i see (in people, pref athletes). like above, it healthy to take, but supps targeted at myostatin are joke. carl lenore talk about this occasional - he talk to guy who found myostatin - listen what he say.
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