Beginning of cycle pics.

You pics looked decent, but you have yet to reach your full growth potential without the cycle. So why juice so early. Don't get me wrong not trying to judge your actions, but IMO, you could have easily went another +2 years with a solid bulk & cutting cycle prior to even touching a cycle.

However, you have started it, and I wish you the best of luck. As you may or may not know, the cycle on works with a solid post-gym plan. Make sure your clean food intake is up, and be you study/ and develop a post cycle plan. Many people come off the cycle and lose everything, due to them not cycling off properly, so they immediately do another cycle (which is bad IMO, unless they are competing)
 
ok I have not been keeping up with this like I should but I do have updated weight and measurements
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I think faceman has a good base, low body fat. All about what you want at that point in the game.
 
tomorrow is my last day of d-bol. :-( So I will be starting into the 5th week tomorrow. I am still looking forward to the bread and butter of this cycle to kick in its strength gains. Although I the strenght gains have been great so far. I am still at 210 pounds. Will get my bf% checked tomorrow.
Last week I traveled back to arkansas to visit for a week. So my diet was not like it normally is. I mean I still ate good but was not able to get as much of my protein from chicken breast and was not able to eat complex carbs all the time.
Was still able to work out.
Although my parents were like, "i think all the weight you lost left your waist on went to your face". ( water retention ) ;-) Ha ha . Oh well
 
faceman35 said:
Ok I figured I would start this with the pics starting my cycle of test cyp and dbol.
I am 6 foot. 188 pounds. Started this cycle at 8.9% bf. I am excited to see the results after my post cycle.
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Are you saying yoru 8.9% BF in these photos? you got a good base but those pics look around 15% to me most people have a clearly defined 6 pack at right around 10% Not trying to knock you and wish you the best of luck just an honest critique
 
mixedup said:
Are you saying yoru 8.9% BF in these photos? you got a good base but those pics look around 15% to me most people have a clearly defined 6 pack at right around 10% Not trying to knock you and wish you the best of luck just an honest critique
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yea def around 15
 
10-11 % is still not bad though at all !!!...Go by the mirror more than anything I have had friends that could get checked with calipers be 9% but they looked like 12%.

BF test are IMO just to make sure your on the right track...To me the mirror is a much better method to follow....Great progress man.
 
Id say about 12% in those first pics{but he could be lower}.Caliper test alot of times are not dependable due to the person doing them....However some people store more fat in there mid section and not so much elsewhere so they very much could be at a lower bofyfat and not look it.

mw525 said:
yea def around 15
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I like to check the bf% just as a physical measurement of progress. I am an engineer by trade and we always have to have a stated path to measure success. So I guess that I am the same way in regards to this. My mid section is the absolute last place to loose fat and first place to put it on.
On another note on this cycle I can tell the most strength gain on my back days. And my back has definitely widened out.
 
M16 said:
Id say about 12% in those first pics{but he could be lower}.Caliper test alot of times are not dependable due to the person doing them....However some people store more fat in there mid section and not so much elsewhere so they very much could be at a lower bofyfat and not look it.
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Yeah, Id say 12-13% no more. Thats bad lighting in those pics, and he looks as though he doesnt have thick abs that "pop" out, so he will have to get down pretty low to see the abs.

Anyone remember the wrestler Buff Bagwell? That guy held his fat equally all over and had abs that just stuck out through his fat. I bet he was 12-13% bf and you could see all his abs. Some people are just lucky.
 
faceman35 said:
I like to check the bf% just as a physical measurement of progress. I am an engineer by trade and we always have to have a stated path to measure success. So I guess that I am the same way in regards to this. My mid section is the absolute last place to loose fat and first place to put it on.
On another note on this cycle I can tell the most strength gain on my back days. And my back has definitely widened out.
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I hear you on that last place to lose fat . Well great progess keep it up.
 
here is a question. If you retain water would that fall under your lean mass or fat mass in a bf% test?
I finally started to take the adex. I wanted to hold off until I thought the bloating was getting significant. Well after 3 days I dropped from 210 to 207.
 
no I do not have any updated pics. I should probably take some. I will be going 12 weeks. Today is the start of week 5.
 
sorry I could not get the same exact pose and position of the camera. I did not have anyone to actually take the picture. So I had to sit on something at run and jump in front of the camera.
 
Its hard to tell from the pics but my back has really widened out. That is really where I have had the most strength gains.
And my triceps gain size pretty well but my biceps always progress pretty slowly. (slower than I would like for them to. )

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And man I dont go to tan for a week and a half and go back and get burnt. WTF?
 
Can you see that white line running across the very bottom of my back and around my side?
This is what that is from. (10 years ago)
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Crazy girlfriend with a whip. Na just kidding. I was knee boarding and got the rope wrapped around my waist and the rest is self explanatory.
 
it was 3rd degree burns all the way around. And actually they just gave me a cream to constantly rub in it. It was to wide of a wound to stich up they said.
 
Today I is the beginning of the 6th week. I did loose 4 pounds after I ended the dbol. Strength is still good. Its not sky rocketing like it was in the first few weeks but still going up. My shoulder presses strenght has kind of tapered off.
 
faceman35 said:
Today I is the beginning of the 6th week. I did loose 4 pounds after I ended the dbol. Strength is still good. Its not sky rocketing like it was in the first few weeks but still going up. My shoulder presses strenght has kind of tapered off.
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Should you Test be running full bore about now?
 
My strength is great and I am lifting a lot. But the rate in which I am jumping up rapidly is not like what it was when I first started and the dbol was kicking my cycle off.
aka its a lot easier to go from 235 bench to 280 than 280 to 325
 
Here is an updated image 6 weeks in.

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Here is the pic from the beginning of the cycle.
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Also last week was the first week that I was off the dbol and I dropped a few pounds of water. But I am back to 208 now.
Strength is good. Recover is good. I feel good. One thing I have changed is I have added a good amount more of carbs in my daily diet. (complex carbs). I have noticed my biceps are finally starting to come in a lot better. So far so good.
 
subd for sure.

How much T you running each week and for how long?
What was your D dosage?
Are you running an AI yet?

I guess PCT is lined out? Any HCG?

I didnt see much about the cycle in the thread.

Gains look solid for sure. Great job thus far.

Get on them wheels bro. Cant see shizzle in the pics.

But, If your legs grow like mine(not at all), NOW is the time to beat them to death.

Good Luck
 
Your nowhere near 8% bodyfat, and probably never have been.

Good luck on the cycle man, I definitely think its too early in the game for you to be cycling, but thats another story...

Pinning is fun stuff ;)
 
bLacKjAck. said:
Your nowhere near 8% bodyfat, and probably never have been.

Good luck on the cycle man, I definitely think its too early in the game for you to be cycling, but thats another story...

Pinning is fun stuff ;)
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exactly what i was thinking. I think you had more time to shape yourself some more and bring, things up some. Shoulders, chest, how are the legs?

Having abs means nothing if thats all you have. I credit you for at least running a reasonable cycle but patience is a great thing.
 
bLacKjAck. said:
Your nowhere near 8% bodyfat, and probably never have been.

Good luck on the cycle man, I definitely think its too early in the game for you to be cycling, but thats another story...

Pinning is fun stuff ;)
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IMO thats a personal choice.

8 percent BF is friggin ripped.

Trip ripped.

Whats the OP's age again?
 
I guess that my strength gains from the test took until yesterday to really kick in. Man I all the sudden was able to bench everything with incredible ease.
Bench press went up 15
Incline press went up 15
decline went up 20
I was able to do dips with 45 pound weight instead of 35.
I cant wait until tomorrow to do my shoulders because on my dumbell overhead press I have been sitting at the same weight for a few weeks.
 
Kristofer68SS said:
IMO thats a personal choice.

8 percent BF is friggin ripped.

Trip ripped.

Whats the OP's age again?
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Personal choice? Yes.

Running a cycle when you basically look like you just started lifting a little weights? Waste. Also learning how to make big gains on gear will cause you to rely on it if you want to make progress, especially getting used to it so early.

But hell, I'm talking about 90% of this site.
 
I think its funny how people think that everyone else should follow exactly how they believe and follow their schedule
 
I know what you mean. It's a controlled drug, just like any other drug out there, there is not written statute to say when you should start using a controlled substance. You should know what the hell your doing thats for sure!
 
bLacKjAck. said:
I think its funny that people with no discipline can't get over 200 lbs without exogenous hormones...and sad.
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i think its funny we are all different in height, muscle mass and genetics.(Aong with many, many, many other personal attributes)

why is 200 pounds the magic number, please do tell.


define discipline, your definition appears to be different then others. So lets hear it.

My only complaint is the young pups doing anything hormonal. After 25, i dont give two shits.

On with my day.

Good day Blackjack, no offense meant.
 
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