Anyone interested in Symplocos Racemosa/Lodhra?

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I'm in the other thread and like the potential name that was mentioned. I put my vote on it

The only other think I can think of that I think goes great with it is forskolin. Problem is, some people do not respond well, so if it was used then Forslean would be the route I would take. 25mg per serving.

The flip side is that Forslean is so readily available that leaving it out would not only keep the cost down, but allow users to tailor their own forskolin dose.

*200 mg Cocoabuterol? I don't think i've seen a dose higher than 50mg per serving
I’d respectfully pass on the forsk
 

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I have a feeling all these Usp labs products had sarms in them before we knew what sarms were. For awhile all there products where ridiculous for “natural “ products.
Never felt any negative side effects that would suggest sarms. But compound 20 was so good, one of my favorite supps. Along with the original anabeta, another one people have suggested was adulterated.
 
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I'm in the other thread and like the potential name that was mentioned. I put my vote on it

The only other think I can think of that I think goes great with it is forskolin. Problem is, some people do not respond well, so if it was used then Forslean would be the route I would take. 25mg per serving.

The flip side is that Forslean is so readily available that leaving it out would not only keep the cost down, but allow users to tailor their own forskolin dose.
I remembered that you were in that thread as well and I really appreciate you taking the time to carry over and discuss it in different threads. I think we are in agreement with the name.

And I think we are in agreement about Coleus. We're going to do Coleus as a single ingredient product so that people can stack it with whatever they want but leave it out of most formulas so that people that can't take it can still enjoy them.

I'm trying to decide between a Coleus 20% and 95%. The active dose would be the same. Some people tend to tolerate one better, and other people the other.
 
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I remembered that you were in that thread as well and I really appreciate you taking the time to carry over and discuss it in different threads. I think we are in agreement with the name.

And I think we are in agreement about Coleus. We're going to do Coleus as a single ingredient product so that people can stack it with whatever they want but leave it out of most formulas so that people that can't take it can still enjoy them.

I'm trying to decide between a Coleus 20% and 95%. The active dose would be the same. Some people tend to tolerate one better, and other people the other.
I have the WEAKEST and most IRRITABLE stomach imaginable.....the 95% is the only one that doesn't jack my stomach up
 
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I have the WEAKEST and most IRRITABLE stomach imaginable.....the 95% is the only one that doesn't jack my stomach up
Thank you for sharing. That's the way I'm leaning. The reverse side battle that companies fight is the marketing side where then company XYZ offers 500 mg. @ 10% and people say 'oh, that one has 500 mg. and theirs only has 50 mg.'.

But I'm pretty sure we're going to do a 95%.
 
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Thank you. This conversation on this ingredient is going on in a couple different threads and that's one that a lot of people seem interested in. I'd agreed to do it if anyone can help think of a name and I think we have one haha.

Compound 20 was a prop blend per 2 capsules of 1520 mg. of: Symplocos (Lodhra), N-Coumaroyldopamine, and N-Caffeoyldopamine. With a dosage of 2 servings per day.

My thought was something like:
Symplocos/Lodhra - 2800 mg.
Cocoabuterol - 200 mg., maybe 300 mg. (contains N-Coumaroyldopamine, and N-Caffeoyldopamine)
Bioperine & or AstraGin (I need to check and see if one or both would be beneficial)
Personally I would like to see Bioperine used LESS as it starts to add up when in multiple formulas/products one is taking.........of course I am a supp junkie and this maybe is less of an issue for most "normal users" lol.
 
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Thank you for sharing. That's the way I'm leaning. The reverse side battle that companies fight is the marketing side where then company XYZ offers 500 mg. @ 10% and people say 'oh, that one has 500 mg. and theirs only has 50 mg.'.

But I'm pretty sure we're going to do a 95%.
I am cool with either but personally think the more informed users are going to want the 95% even if it does not make a difference in the end. Just emphasize MAXIMUM PURITY AND POTENCY in the adds lol.
 
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Personally I would like to see Bioperine used LESS as it starts to add up when in multiple formulas/products one is taking.........of course I am a supp junkie and this maybe is less of an issue for most "normal users" lol.
The average person though only uses 2 to 3 products maximum. I know some companies just put it in products bc it looks good on the label to say they have an absorption enhancer; we only use it when we feel like it really helps. But if it really does help, we definitely want to have it in there.
 
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Thank you. This conversation on this ingredient is going on in a couple different threads and that's one that a lot of people seem interested in. I'd agreed to do it if anyone can help think of a name and I think we have one haha.

Compound 20 was a prop blend per 2 capsules of 1520 mg. of: Symplocos (Lodhra), N-Coumaroyldopamine, and N-Caffeoyldopamine. With a dosage of 2 servings per day.

My thought was something like:
Symplocos/Lodhra - 2800 mg.
Cocoabuterol - 200 mg., maybe 300 mg. (contains N-Coumaroyldopamine, and N-Caffeoyldopamine)
Bioperine & or AstraGin (I need to check and see if one or both would be beneficial)
Will you be able to disclose to the amount of n-coumaryl and n-caffe within the formula? :) if not I totally get it
 
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Will you be able to disclose to the amount of n-coumaryl and n-caffe within the formula? :) if not I totally get it
If we use branded Cocoabuterol, then we could disclose it only if they let us disclose it. So that would kind of be their decision; but I don't care from my end.

Some people may make an argument to use those two and not Cocoabuteral, but the thing is we're getting asked for Cocoabuterol too so I was thinking that might be the legit way to go about this.
 

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@sns8778 Hey Steve, are you still planning on releasing a highly standardized Symplocos/Lodhra extract? I ask because I have 4 bottles each of Anacyclus XT, Furosap XT and Spilanthes XT and I’m 8 weeks in stacking all three and man! I’m loving the results!
I want to add in Symplocos/Lodhra for the next 8 weeks hoping to add to the amazing results I’m seeing this far.
 
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@sns8778 Hey Steve, are you still planning on releasing a highly standardized Symplocos/Lodhra extract? I ask because I have 4 bottles each of Anacyclus XT, Furosap XT and Spilanthes XT and I’m 8 weeks in stacking all three and man! I’m loving the results!
I want to add in Symplocos/Lodhra for the next 8 weeks hoping to add to the amazing results I’m seeing this far.
Thank you for the interest and for asking.

And that's awesome to hear, I'm glad you're enjoying them. That sounds like a great stack.

And yes, we will be offering a highly standardized Symplocos/Lodhra in several different products coming up within the next few months :)
 

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Thank you for the interest and for asking.

And that's awesome to hear, I'm glad you're enjoying them. That sounds like a great stack.

And yes, we will be offering a highly standardized Symplocos/Lodhra in several different products coming up within the next few months :)
Awesome! Will you also be offering it in a stand alone supplement?
 
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Awesome! Will you also be offering it in a stand alone supplement?
I'm not sure.

We've already been asked to do and are doing a product comparable to the original Compound20 which was Symplocos and 2 other ingredients that are no longer available individually, but are found in Cocoabuterol. There was a lot of talk in a thread about this, I don't remember which one, and Duke3577 suggested a great name for it- Recomp20. So that will be Symplocos + Cocoabuterol.

Then we will be using it in at least one more SNS product and one new CEL product.

So I think we may cover this category super well between those options and for anyone wanting it as a single ingredient could really just view the Cocoabuterol as an added bonus and use Recomp20.
 
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I'm not sure.

We've already been asked to do and are doing a product comparable to the original Compound20 which was Symplocos and 2 other ingredients that are no longer available individually, but are found in Cocoabuterol. There was a lot of talk in a thread about this, I don't remember which one, and I think it was Zoo that suggested a great name for it- Recomp20. So that will be Symplocos + Cocoabuterol.

Then we will be using it in at least one more SNS product and one new CEL product.

So I think we may cover this category super well between those options and for anyone wanting it as a single ingredient could really just view the Cocoabuterol as an added bonus and use Recomp20.
Makes sense. I loved the original Compound20 (before they reformulated it) so I’m excited for SNS’ version. Will definitely be picking up a few bottles when it is released.
 
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Tried to quote you here and it formatted weirdly so I deleted it
 
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Makes sense. I loved the original Compound20 (before they reformulated it) so I’m excited for SNS’ version. Will definitely be picking up a few bottles when it is released.
Thank you. I hope that you'll enjoy it.

We will have one product coming out before it that will have Symplocos in it too :)
 
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Sorry, but I’m gonna have to state my claim here for “Recomp20” for that free bottle 😉
Was it you that came up with the name? I honestly couldn't remember haha.
 

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Yes, no worries. Funny thing is yesterday after seeing it mentioned again, I was trying to figure out where I posted it.
 
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Yes, no worries. Funny thing is yesterday after seeing it mentioned again, I was trying to figure out where I posted it.
I couldn't find the thread either. But I did just change my post to give you proper acknowledgement for the name; which I really do appreciate it. There are so many products that we have that we want to do that are being held up just by not being able to think of a good name for them.
 
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I thought I did!! Free bottles for all of us!
I officially have no idea lol. I couldn't find the thread we were discussing it in haha
 
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I'll take a free bottle, gladly run a log with anacyclus and epi-plex
The free bottle thing is I promised whoever came up with the name a free bottle but can't find the thread haha.

But it would definitely make a great stack with Anacyclus XT and Epi-Plex.
 
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Haven't read who thread but saw this pop up. Looks like something good to stack with a thermogenic fat burner. Would this be better than forskolin? Or different mechanisms. Either way sounds interesting.
 
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How do y’all feel about my worry about the confusion part? Think people would be able to understand & not let the female study stuff confuse them?

I want to do one. I just don’t want to deal w the BS of it getting attacked out of context if that makes sense.
I wouldn't worry. The "bros" pop clomid like candy and no one worries about its mechanisms.
 
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Haven't read who thread but saw this pop up. Looks like something good to stack with a thermogenic fat burner. Would this be better than forskolin? Or different mechanisms. Either way sounds interesting.
Anabeta Elite, multiple versions of it, included both ingredients and folks enjoyed every version. FWIW to you, going full anecdote/no science.
 

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🤔 error when I click the link. Post #644 in “Tell us what you would like to see from SNS.
 
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🤔 error when I click the link. Post #644 in “Tell us what you would like to see from SNS.
Ha. The smiley face you put at the end became part of the hyperlink and that's what causes the error ;)
 
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Haven't read who thread but saw this pop up. Looks like something good to stack with a thermogenic fat burner. Would this be better than forskolin? Or different mechanisms. Either way sounds interesting.
I believe slightly different but I need to brush up on that before I can give you a definite answer.
 

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