Any non hormonal to recover faster/better?

[roisks]

Are there any supplement/PED that doesnt cause suppression but it would help recover faster/better?

 

[TheMrMuscle]

I have really noticed a increase in my recovery when using Epi-Plex, Anabolic Effect and M-Test. SO i can absolutely vouch for any one of those. But of course the basics has to be there for any of it to make a difference. So make sure to get your protein needs met. EAA's also has a good effect on my recovery, so I would recommend comsuming that intra workout as well.

 

[roisks]

I have really noticed a increase in my recovery when using Epi-Plex, Anabolic Effect and M-Test. SO i can absolutely vouch for any one of those. But of course the basics has to be there for any of it to make a difference. So make sure to get your protein needs met. EAA's also has a good effect on my recovery, so I would recommend comsuming that intra workout as well.

Yea, i use intra carbs+aminos, i have been thinking about Epi-Plex for sometime but never tested.

 

[aaronuconn]

LCLT
ActiGin
Tart Cherry
Mushroom Complex (Peak02, Sacred 7)
KSM-66

 

[Hyde]

Curcumin, kept as far as possible from the training window. Helps lower inflammation and feel less beat up.

 

[tyga tyga]

Agree on the curcumin.

Tart cherry as well (helped in a pilot study with sleep efficiency and duration)

 

[Hyde]

Agree on the curcumin.

Tart cherry as well (helped in a pilot study with sleep efficiency and duration)

On that note, anything that allows you to get more quality sleep. Supplements, blackout curtains, lowering blue light exposure near bed time, getting to bed earlier, CPAP if you need one.

A CPAP could mean big gains over the years if you need one.

 

[De__eB]

Sleep 8 hours a night.
Eat enough protein.

Then check out:

KSM-66 (SNS sells this as a very cost-effective single ingredient)
PEAK O2 (Ditto)
PrimaVie Shilajit (In our CEL Anabolic Effect and M-Test products)
Tart Cherry
Turmeric

 

[Hyde]

Sleep 8 hours a night.
Eat enough protein.

Then check out:

KSM-66 (SNS sells this as a very cost-effective single ingredient)
PEAK O2 (Ditto)
PrimaVie Shilajit (In our CEL Anabolic Effect and M-Test products)
Tart Cherry
Turmeric

Shilajit can also greatly increase Coq10 uptake. Adding a cap of ubiquinol with your shilajit and taking Curcumin later in the day is a great move for longterm heart health as well as recovery.

 

[roisks]

Sleep 8 hours a night.
Eat enough protein.

Then check out:

KSM-66 (SNS sells this as a very cost-effective single ingredient)
PEAK O2 (Ditto)
PrimaVie Shilajit (In our CEL Anabolic Effect and M-Test products)
Tart Cherry
Turmeric

LCLT
ActiGin
Tart Cherry
Mushroom Complex (Peak02, Sacred 7)
KSM-66

Would it be good to take KSM post-workout and before bed? Or does timing matter?

 

[delsolrob]

Iconogenin is a solid option - lot of guys have loved our Laxogenin gel!

 

[De__eB]

Would it be good to take KSM post-workout and before bed? Or does timing matter?

I'd take it before bed if you're taking it on its own.

 

[Hyde]

Iconogenin is a solid option - lot of guys have loved our Laxogenin gel!

I’ve found some joint relief/comfort increase using oral Laxogenin. Pretty neat stuff

 

[aaronuconn]

Would it be good to take KSM post-workout and before bed? Or does timing matter?

Yeah.

I personally take upon waking and before bed. I’ve also just done 600mg pre bed and that seems to really help with sleep depth

 

[TommyTuffGuy]

Sleep 8 hours a night.
Eat enough protein.

Then check out:

KSM-66 (SNS sells this as a very cost-effective single ingredient)
PEAK O2 (Ditto)
PrimaVie Shilajit (In our CEL Anabolic Effect and M-Test products)
Tart Cherry
Turmeric

I used to be sore as hell after working out the next day and it just dawned on me I've taken M-Test tons in the past 2 years or so and haven't been sore at all.

 

[thebigt]

I’ve found some joint relief/comfort increase using oral Laxogenin. Pretty neat stuff

transdermal laxogenin [iconogenin] was far better than oral from my experience.

 

[De__eB]

I used to be sore as hell after working out the next day and it just dawned on me I've taken M-Test tons in the past 2 years or so and haven't been sore at all.

Take some X-Gels and make DOMS great again

 

[jameschoi]

Ginger
Pycnogenol
COQ10

Propolis versus CRP and TNF-alpha

A chronically increased activity of the cytokines CRP and TNF-alpha increases the risk of premature death and unpleasantly many chronic diseases. What helps against that? We wrote about ginger, Pycnogenol or Q10 in the near past. And perhaps supplementation with propolis is not such a bad idea...

www.ergo-log.com

 

[Hyde]

transdermal laxogenin [iconogenin] was far better than oral from my experience.

It would have to be, mg for mg

 

[thebigt]

It would have to be, mg for mg

for stuff like trans res and laxo i would think 2x easily. i found formestane to be at least 5x as potent as td than oral.

 

[Resolve10]

Recovery can mean a ton of things but in general for me:
Tart Cherry
Actigen
LCLT
PeakO2
Ash

For fully inclusive products I really like Morphogen Hexagen (if intra carbs are your thing) and CEL Anabolic Effect. Training results are always a little faster with these for me.

 

[BBiceps]

Recovery can mean a ton of things but in general for me:
Tart Cherry

Tart Cherry is interesting, how much do you take, how often and do you have a product you can recommend?

 

[Resolve10]

Tart Cherry is interesting, how much do you take, how often and do you have a product you can recommend?

Usually 500mg or so of a standardized extract like Vitacherry.

Pre or post. Two of my favorite products that contain it are CEL Super swole and CL Green Might.

You may be able to find it individually or alternatively you could drink actual tart cherry juice (studies have been done with the actual juice as well).

 

[Hyde]

Recovery can mean a ton of things but in general for me:
Tart Cherry
Actigen
LCLT
PeakO2
Ash

For fully inclusive products I really like Morphogen Hexagen (if intra carbs are your thing) and CEL Anabolic Effect. Training results are always a little faster with these for me.

Good dose of LCLT in their Synthagen EAAs too

 

[THEstudent]

Mass Pro Synthagen X2