Anabolics tailor made for older lifters?

How would Fomestane be of value while on Epi as it already has anti-estrogen properties. I know people run this together and I respond very well to formestane.
 
Formestane is an aromatase inhibitor which is different than Epi's estrogen blocking qualities which binds to androgen receptors.

Too little estrogen can also be very bad.

If you find yourself getting all teary eyed watching some emotional movie, time to lower the E and raise some T.
 
Formestane is an aromatase
Too little estrogen can also be very bad.

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That is my thinking exactly if you combine the two there would be a possibility fo Estrogen being too low. Maybe Formestane would not be a good idea when using epistane. I think those who pulse use it on off days so that makes some sense. I can't see where it would be a good idea when on a full cycle.

I am pretty ignorant about these products like I said, very knowledgable about natural training but really not up to speed on steroid use. It just seems that I could use a boost as everything comes harder when your older.
 
I would think Epistane and Nettle or the ORIGINAL Activate would go lovely together! I think Form would be fine if low dosed.....but still may be too dry. Dutchman tried it and loved it!
 
Yes but he was pulsing was he not. Probably too the Form on his off days. That makes sense. A full cycle would be another matter.
 
I think it is to maximize the estrogen control, so on off days you won't miss the estrogen control you would be getting if you were doing a full cycle. Just a guess, as it seems to make some sense. I know they work different ways like you said but seem to get similar results.
 
Pulsing isn't all that it's hyped up to be. I posted in another thread the blood test results of a ~ 40 yr. old using Epi pulsed M-W-F for 8 weeks.

Result : Testosterone was at 145 and 4 weeks later after using Clomid it was at 485. Good lipids, low BP and good liver enzyme test results before and after. He won't be pulsing anymore. His results were not what they were with two previous Epi cycles.

Epi or any exogenous hormone will cause HPTA shutdown. You won't get around it. You may not feel shutdown but I bet my next paycheck you will be. You had better use a SERM after Epi.

Use of SERMS is a great Test booster. Much better than any other OTC supplements.

The only benefit of his shutdown was the doc seeing his low test results and he prescribed TRT, and it was not Androgel. He was happy.


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I completely agree. I don't believe is this new trendy idea of "pulsing"...
 
Everybody has their right to "not believe in this new trendy idea of pulsing." IJMHO but it simply works extremely well with us older lifters. It is the most prostate and system friendly alternative out there. I know it helped me put on over 40 lbs in the BP and then after a RC injury to come back already to almost the same level after another "pulsed" cycle. With all due respect to test results for one person, I'll settle for video proof/results of what it does for me. See my Hammer Strength thread below.
 
just Ordered E-max by Juggernaut...was told by NP same as Epistane....plus ordered Advanced PCT and Life support...
Excited about my 1st cycle!

46 yrs old, lifting 10 yrs, 200 lbs, mostly musle but getting little soft around them middle & hating it.:frustrate
 
just Ordered E-max by Juggernaut...was told by NP same as Epistane....plus ordered Advanced PCT and Life support...
Excited about my 1st cycle!

46 yrs old, lifting 10 yrs, 200 lbs, mostly musle but getting little soft around them middle & hating it.:frustrate

Are you going to do a pulse or straight cycle? Also, do you have a SERM on hand just in case? Also, check into the posts by older lifters about Formestane. Remember that your aromatase activity increases with age.

Have fun fittin' into that Speedo this summer!:icon_lol:
 
I recently completed a 5 week cycle of trenadrol and halo stack. I'm 49 and gained 13 lbs on this stack while considerably losing bodyfat. My libido is already coming back after 2 weeks into my pct. Great stack in my opinion
 
I recently completed a 5 week cycle of trenadrol and halo stack. I'm 49 and gained 13 lbs on this stack while considerably losing bodyfat. My libido is already coming back after 2 weeks into my pct. Great stack in my opinion

That's a good amount of muscle to gain in 5 weeks. Great job!
 
Are you going to do a pulse or straight cycle? Also, do you have a SERM on hand just in case? Also, check into the posts by older lifters about Formestane. Remember that your aromatase activity increases with age.

Have fun fittin' into that Speedo this summer!:icon_lol:


I am going to try the pulse! sounds like a good technique!!

No i did not get a SERM, how do I know if I need one & can i get it from Nutraplanet???:dance:
 
I am going to try the pulse! sounds like a good technique!!

No i did not get a SERM, how do I know if I need one & can i get it from Nutraplanet???:dance:

It's against forum rules to ask about sources for that kind of thing. Here's what I'd do: Google the term "research chemicals" with words like SERM, tamoxifen or toremifene. Bingo! Now you have stuff to experiment with on your lab rats.

The problem with not having a SERM is simply Murphy's Law. You'll only need it if you don't have it. Although pulsing something like Epistane is about as safe a cycle as there is out there, if gyno appears, you'll want to treat it early. Also, SERMs get your natural test production up and running a lot quicker post cycle.

Don't forget support supps like Anabolic Innovations Cycle/Life Support and Post Cycle Support. They've put just about everything you'd need in one neat package.

Best of Luck!
 
I am going to try the pulse! sounds like a good technique!!

No i did not get a SERM, how do I know if I need one & can i get it from Nutraplanet???:dance:

from my understanding Anabolic Innovation's Post Cycle Support was formulated for pulsing havoc/epi & clones, a serm is good to have on hand however

cheers
 
4 days of straight dosing with e-max 10-20-30-30 mgs and noticing definite increase in my strength/lifts are up 10% and definite increase in sense of well-being. no increase in weight or increase in libido yet...very exciting I'll tell U.:good:
 
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