ALRI- Elephant Max delay?

jonny21

jonny21

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I just received an e-mail stating that there would be a delay getting this product to market. Is this true?
 
Yes, there will be. We just released E...Max LMG (Ergomax LMG) and feel that it would only serve to confuse customers as to which and why. The actions or each are too siimilar and it seems rather stupid to compete with yourself. (And a huge waste of ad expenses)
 
RAVEN said:
Yes, there will be. We just released E...Max LMG (Ergomax LMG) and feel that it would only serve to confuse customers as to which and why. The actions or each are too siimilar and it seems rather stupid to compete with yourself. (And a huge waste of ad expenses)
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when will the exact date of Elephant max being out then?..I was looking forward to stacking that with the Prostanozol. I prefer the Elephant max cause its not methlyated.
 
RAVEN said:
Yes, there will be. We just released E...Max LMG (Ergomax LMG) and feel that it would only serve to confuse customers as to which and why. The actions or each are too siimilar and it seems rather stupid to compete with yourself. (And a huge waste of ad expenses)
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good biz decision. :thumbsup:
 
well, i gotta call this one out, i mean come on. are you saying you didn't anticipate the confusion (only to the 18 y.o. kids that buy this stuff) that might occur with the two products until recently? ARLI was set to release elph max this month why did they re-release Emax within such a short period of it and not think of this earlier? i dont know how a big company could not see this "problem" a week or two before the release.

something is not right here.
 
:frustrate NNNNNNOOOOOOO!
Wow, this really is short notice. I've been waiting on elephant because it isn't methylated. I have plenty of methyls. Now, I have to start my cycle without it. I'll have to cancel my pre-order, because it'll be a while before I can get back to it.
 
Yeah I was primarily interested in Elephant Max because it is not methylated. I was more keen on that than Ergomax.
 
you could always only release it through your own website or just give it to a few companies so that us loyal folks who have been waiting can get their hands on some. Ill be waiting for the ergo to come out through AX before I buy any again, so I wouldnt mind getting some E MAX in the mean time.

Perhaps a small beta run? Would get some feedback out there, besides, ergo will sell out no prob i would think considering the last run of it still goes for over 100/bottle on ebay
 
Pioneer said:
well, i gotta call this one out, i mean come on. are you saying you didn't anticipate the confusion (only to the 18 y.o. kids that buy this stuff) that might occur with the two products until recently? ARLI was set to release elph max this month why did they re-release Emax within such a short period of it and not think of this earlier? i dont know how a big company could not see this "problem" a week or two before the release.

something is not right here.
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Based on what I have read here and there it appears as though ALRI had an outlet for the methylated product in SA. This would have meant they would have on hand capped stock as well as raws for more. When the SA deal went south (pun intended) I would assume they were left with said stock and a need to sell. This would in turn then lead to an unexpected clash wiht the release of Elephant Max. Of course this is pure speculation on my part but I suspect close if not exact. Add to that the fact they can release what they want when they want as it is their company to run. :hammer:
 
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jcam222 said:
Based on what I have read here and there it appears as though ALRI had an outlet for the methylated product in SA. This would have meant they would have on hand capped stock as well as raws for more. When the SA deal went south (pun intended) I would assume they were left with said stock and a need to sell. This would in turn then lead to an unexpected clash wiht the release of Elephant Max. Of course this is pure speculation on my part but I suspect close if not exact. Add to that the fact they can release what they want when they want as it is their company to run. :hammer:
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Yes all of that is true, and yes we've all heard the Dominator story. The problem is the timing. With the impending release of elephant some retailers started a presale for it.
How long now has the presale of ergomax been on? Since about 6/25. I based my pre-order of elephant on the fact that on 7/4 Raven posted that elephant should still be released on time:
onshow said:
just stumbled onto a site that had pre-orders with release stated on the 8th July 2005. Is this still coming out this day?
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RAVEN said:
So far so good my friend
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Then, right before the release of elephant they realize there is a conflict. Now those retailers with the elephant preorders are hung out to dry. For the most part, I like ALR and his company, but that's just shitty business.
 
UGLY said:
Yes all of that is true, and yes we've all heard the Dominator story. The problem is the timing. With the impending release of elephant some retailers started a presale for it.
How long now has the presale of ergomax been on? Since about 6/25. I based my pre-order of elephant on the fact that on 7/4 Raven posted that elephant should still be released on time:


Then, right before the release of elephant they realize there is a conflict. Now those retailers with the elephant preorders are hung out to dry. For the most part, I like ALR and his company, but that's just shitty business.
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You are crying about ALR for somethign the resellers did?

ALR runs a business. They make business decissions. They dont share their business reasoning with pepole outside the company.

If the resellers are jumping the gun and start preselling a product that its not released then its their fault and if you buy a product thats not released from a presale its your fault. Not the ALR.

I am certain that ALR made its decission based on facts we don't know. They made whats called a *business decission*.

Now, start bitching to your reseller for selling you a product that they did not have or its not even released yet.
 
MorganKane said:
You are crying about ALR for somethign the resellers did?

ALR runs a business. They make business decissions. They dont share their business reasoning with pepole outside the company.

If the resellers are jumping the gun and start preselling a product that its not released then its their fault and if you buy a product thats not released from a presale its your fault. Not the ALR.

I am certain that ALR made its decission based on facts we don't know. They made whats called a *business decission*.

Now, start bitching to your reseller for selling you a product that they did not have or its not even released yet.
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It's my post and I'll cry if I want to. You are also right, but ALRI should have postponed the release of elephant earlier. Anyway, I'm done complaining.
 
Raven

I ordered Prostanozol and Elephant Max through ALRI.
I haven't received the Prostanozol, will it be shipped now
or when Elephant Max is available?
I think it's safe to say most of us would like to see
E Max and Elephant Max released at the same time, as planned.

Thanks
 
UGLY said:
It's my post and I'll cry if I want to.
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LOL

PS. Bobo, why am I not a board supporter yet? I donated my 10 smacks a few days ago, and nothing yet. :( There was no place for comments to put my SN, so I assumed you would just match emails.
 
jcam222 said:
Based on what I have read here and there it appears as though ALRI had an outlet for the methylated product in SA. This would have meant they would have on hand capped stock as well as raws for more. When the SA deal went south (pun intended) I would assume they were left with said stock and a need to sell. This would in turn then lead to an unexpected clash wiht the release of Elephant Max. Of course this is pure speculation on my part but I suspect close if not exact. Add to that the fact they can release what they want when they want as it is their company to run. :hammer:
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Wow, really like it when someone reads a post! Thank you!

I have to comment a little further, so please be patient with me.

We spent 8 months receiving literally thousands of e-mails and phone calls in regard to everyone wanting to either beg, borrow or steel Ergomax LMG. Serveral with weird conspiracy accusations, others just loyal customers asking for something we have control over. We even have couple of other companies trying to fiqure out why their knock-offs did not do what Ergomax LMG does by bribing one of our ex-employees.

So we bring it back...and we get...all the same responses...but most are rather happy as we have had several hundred e-mails and phone calls thanking us. And of course a few with the new Elephant Max conspiracy. Sorry, we cannot always please everyone, but we certainly set new standards for everyone else to compete.

As to Elephant Max LMG...we are not going to release it for some time to come. I apprecite so many anxious for it as it is what keeps me working on such projects. I will simply retire once the day comes that I see no reason to come out with new innovations. Mediocrity sucks!

BTW: Prostanozol is non-methylated as is Max LMG
 
UGLY said:
It's my post and I'll cry if I want to. You are also right, but ALRI should have postponed the release of elephant earlier. Anyway, I'm done complaining.
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Okay, now that was funny!

Good point. We did so as soon as we knew.
 
"As to Elephant Max LMG...we are not going to release it for some time to come."

Within 6 months or so? If not, will Ergomax remain available?

Just want to know if I should double up now. Planning another run in six months.
 
jonny21 said:
"As to Elephant Max LMG...we are not going to release it for some time to come."

Within 6 months or so? If not, will Ergomax remain available?
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Both good questions but in all honesty I cannot say yet.
 
im a little dissaponted too. was planning on some elehant to stack with max lmg. i even posted a mesage about a week ago on this board where raven said the 8th will be release date. this has puched back any plans of my cycle. i may have to go the superdrol route now.
 
Author L. Rea said:
Okay, now that was funny!

Good point. We did so as soon as we knew.
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Mr. Rea,
Thank you for your reply to the thread. I admire your graciousness, and your patience is superhuman (particularly for an androgen enhanced male). I hope you stay in the game for a very long time to come. :cheers:
 
this has puched back any plans of my cycle. i may have to go the superdrol route now.
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Now that's just silly. Why not just buy Ergomax then? Both it and Superdrol are methylated, and if you ordered now you'd probably have the Ergo by next Thursday.
 
basically cause im not in the us so dont want to risk getting in something just for the hell of it. ive found there are only 2 supp stores that i can purchase from without customs issues. none of these stock ergo.

i also have local access to superdrol. so no risk on the importation.

i would have pushed it all back but raven told me it would be out on the 8th, so ordered the extras for it and have actually started preparing for the cycle. oh well. my loss i guess.
 
UGLY said:
Mr. Rea,
Thank you for your reply to the thread. I admire your graciousness, and your patience is superhuman (particularly for an androgen enhanced male). I hope you stay in the game for a very long time to come. :cheers:
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Very kind of you and thank you for your support. I plan to stay in the industry as long as I feel we are able to bring forth products that work and our supporters enjoy them. Once that is gone, we would be pretty bored just being another Me-Too company. There are some great companies out there that are leading the way to setting the bar a little higher for the rest...then there are those that talk and complain about those that do so...and just do cheap knock-offs. The result is those who "create" take their toys and go elsewhere, eventually, and then we would have a re-do of the 80's and first half of the 90's.
 
ok, im eating my words. i see your distributor list expanded recently and most have emax. cycle is back on.

i will start a new thread with some questions i have.
 
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