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Bröthers, Looking for advice about getting absolutely shredded. Diet is clean like woah. Eating real good. Meat and fish, vegetables, oats, quinoa, rice, fruit, yogurt/keefir, bee pollen, pussy. I eat almost no cheat meals, unless it's some sugar in a bar or yogurt. Lift 5-6x a week, plus some...

@Iwilleattuna I chopped it up with some Bros who are wise in the ways of science. Apparently here's the biz... Laxogenin is in smilax, but its difficult to extract and not bioavailable orally. 5-a-OH-laxogenin is a metabolite of laxogenin (what they found in about half of supplements that...

I wouldn't pretend to know how they do it. To be honest with you, I doubt most '5-a-laxogenin' supplements have ever seen a smilax. It could well just be a code word that connotes 'contains PEDs'. "On the [USADA's] Supplement 411 High Risk List, for example, eight products list laxogenin on the...

Likewise. I ran Massacr3 and got much more strength and size than seemed reasonable, especially in hindsight. Epi did basically nothing at all except drain my gucci purse. It is entirely plausible that some labs can produce a bunch of synthetics and analogs (basically the supplement industry's...

Found it! Don't get me wrong, laxogenin supplements will give size and strength, but I somehow doubt that its laxogenin what's doing it. https://www.ergo-log.com/what-you-should-know-about-supplements-with-5-alpha-hydroxy-laxogenin.html

Laxogenin is found in smilax sieboldii, but 5-α-laxogenin is not. Its a synthetic form. I'm trying to locate a chart of all the different off-label ingredients they found in laxogenin supplements, but AM is giving me a hard time. Suffice to say, 5/12 (41%) of the tested supplements didn't even...

Read and grow smart... https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0731708518322635?via%3Dihub When you say 'pure' I don't even know what you mean. 5-a-OH-laxogenin doesn't occur in nature. It's totally synthetic to begin with. And most 5-a-OH-laxogenin supplements, when tested, were...

Epi, at best, is a pump enhancer (whatever that means). For every positive epi review there's another that says it doesn't work. Definitely didn't do anything for me and I ran Ep1logue and Follidrone. Obviously if you were just a little more smarter you would understand. Keep eating epi looser...

Basically no one has ever gotten gains from follidrone 1.0 or 2.0. I thought you were smart, but i guess I was wrong. Nice appeal to numbers (moron)

Two things... Epi doesn't work. Anyone telling you otherwise it's just trying to sell you their worthless trash supplements, like Follidrone 2.0 OL Massacr3 5-a-laxogenin is pretty good for strength and size. However, laxogenin supplements are kind of a crap shoot. Lots of off-label...