Building Rome In 2 Month-a B/log on my program with BoBo

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I understand the general consencous(including that of BoBo's) is that you cannot build Rome in a day or 2 month. However, many of the cleints reported 20 pound muscle gains in the 2 month program. For me, 20 pounds of muscle will be the equivelence of Rome, or even China. Hence the name of the B/Log.

Before I am kicked in the butt by BoBo, let me just say this. I have no expectations, I will OBEY. OK, now i should be fine.

The reason for naming this a B/log is that this will not be a exclusive logbook on all things related to the diet and exsercise. Everyday, (if i manage to do it everyday) it will feature a section on the technical information needed for BoBo to determine where I am and then a section of random tibits maybe included. This will feature nutritional comments, recipes, my rant and raves, PMS comments etc. For all intensive purposes, BoBo need not read the second section.

Having said I have no expectation and I will do the best that I can to stick to everything BoBo says, I am still both excited and apprehensive about this program. I have never come close to eating this amount of food everyday in my life. What more at stake is a small but rather lucrative modeling contract. If I really gain a whole lot of weight(fat not muscle) I will probably lose my semi annual contract and become a free agent again. My livelyhood is in your hands BOBO!!!!!!

I am inexperinced in the world of fitness and nutrition, I lifted weights casually throughout college although i have no idea how to do it right. Now I am here with bobo, doing it right.
 

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Sunday March 18th

March 18th marks the first day of the official start of the program.

Due to the fact that I live in NYC and does not drive, the collection of foodstaff took longer then it was suppose to take. I missed 3 meals of 6. I only ate the pre workout, post workout, and dinner according to the plan.

Weight after the first day is @ 172 comparing to what it was 1 week ago @ around 165. I drank a lot of water/milk etc, thats probabaly why.

Due to the number of things to do and exhaustion, I didnt take any measurements. I will try to take them on Monday evening after the second workout. I know this might not be a good idea but life is a *****.

I performed all excercises to the specifications except the assisted Dips. the Dips machine wasnt any good, and i didnt do them well. I found the new excersize method to be very difficult.

I ended up not feeling tired or exhausted, didnt even break a sweat. I am concerned about this. Am I not working hard enough? If so all the carlories is going directly to the fat cells.

Note: Its monday and neither chest nor tris are sore even though I worked myself to the degree of failure. considering this is only the second week back in the gym and after last weeks chest workout I was really sore, I feel concerned. Maybe BoBo can give some advise about this situation.
 

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WARNING: this section contains highly personalized information that contributes nothing to the program, it is intended for author's personal catharsis and entertainment purposes only. It may also contain information offensive or inapproperaite to some individuals. Adult situation/information will arise. Please be advised before start reading this section that the author is not responsible for any consequences caused by his freedom of speech.

Sunday March 18th marks the first day of my weight gainng journey with BoBo. On Saturday I picked up a majority of the things i needed from BJ's wholesell Club. Most of the meat, eggs, fish, Vitamins, and bread I needed was bought for 110 dollars. I was suprised that the cost was low.

On sunday, I purchased cheese, whole wheat tortias, brocoli, etc. Couldnt find any whole wheat bagels anywhere. There are no wholewheat bagels in NYC? there is every other variety, onion, bagels, sea salt, egg, cinamon raisin. just not whole wheat.

Sunday afternoon, i began cooking the food for the week. Started by boiling 4 dozen eggs. I have never seen so many eggs boiled in my life. I broke about 4 trying to get them into the pot. but bought 5 dozen so I had some extra ones.

On the BoBo fitness menu is pan roasted Garlic chilli chicken breast and seared ginger miso mahi mahi fillets.
couldnt find gordons fish fillets either at BJ's wild Mahi Mahi fillets are 100 calories per 4 oz serving, with 1.5 fat calories and 21 grams of protein. It was a good buy at 10 for a 2 pound individually wrapped bags.I also included some dover sole fillets for next week, they are the same nutritional profile. There was also wild yellow fin tuna, altho it is slightly higher in calories, both higher in fat and proteins. perhaps for next time.
Pan roasted garlic chilli chicken starts by marinating chicken breast pieces with soy, minced garlic and minced fresh chili with lemon or lime juice. I added fresh ground black and white pepper to it. you may add additional salt to it if you wish but too much sodium is not good.
Prepare a nonstick skillet by spraying with a cooking stray or wiping the bottom with a piece of oiled paper, this insures minimum fat added. preheat until wisps smoke can be seen, then put in the chicken. cook on both sides until its throughly cooked.
Ginger miso Mahi Mahi is prepared by marinating the fish with soy, Miso paste, lime juice and zest, ground fresh ginger, and white pepper. washing the marinade clean before searing the fish leaves a clean, beautiful surface. Mahi Mahi has a very mild flavor and boast delicious big flakes. Because it is a low fat fish, avoid over cooking.
 
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March 18th marks the first day of the official start of the program.

Due to the fact that I live in NYC and does not drive, the collection of foodstaff took longer then it was suppose to take. I missed 3 meals of 6. I only ate the pre workout, post workout, and dinner according to the plan.

Weight after the first day is @ 172 comparing to what it was 1 week ago @ around 165. I drank a lot of water/milk etc, thats probabaly why.

Due to the number of things to do and exhaustion, I didnt take any measurements. I will try to take them on Monday evening after the second workout. I know this might not be a good idea but life is a *****.

I performed all excercises to the specifications except the assisted Dips. the Dips machine wasnt any good, and i didnt do them well. I found the new excersize method to be very difficult.

I ended up not feeling tired or exhausted, didnt even break a sweat. I am concerned about this. Am I not working hard enough? If so all the carlories is going directly to the fat cells.

Note: Its monday and neither chest nor tris are sore even though I worked myself to the degree of failure. considering this is only the second week back in the gym and after last weeks chest workout I was really sore, I feel concerned. Maybe BoBo can give some advise about this situation.

Make sure you are following the ratios. If you are and completing the number of reps and sets, then its fine. DOMS doens't really tell you much. If you arne't sore, then you're lucky. It means nothing in terms of growth.

Missing 3 meals of 6 isn't going to cut it. You need to eat them ALL.
 
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On sunday, I purchased cheese, whole wheat tortias, brocoli, etc. Couldnt find any whole wheat bagels anywhere. There are no wholewheat bagels in NYC? there is every other variety, onion, bagels, sea salt, egg, cinamon raisin. just not whole wheat.
Try sourdough.
 

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Mondays measurements

Since i have only been on the program for 2 days, I don't expect significant change. Here are the "start" measurements.

Chest: 40 inches
Waist: 33 inches
thighs: 21 inches
Arm/biceps: 13.5 inches
calves: 15.5 inches

As you can see, I am quite skinny. Hoping to put a little more flesh onto the frame and really understand how everything works.
 

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Performance on Monday

I was a good boy on monday. Ate all of my meals. Was Actually Hungry between 3rd and 4th meal. there was a 5 hours gap.
The workout was again only so so. I dont feel pumped or the burn or sore. Keep on worrying I am not doing something right as others report phenomonal workouts. Could not performed the listed Front pull ups as per requested, so I kind of did my half ass versions of them.
Food wise, Since i can be a big eater sometimes, I have no problem getting it all down. Still concerned about the workout, Hoping it will get better soon.
Monday night: had the Flax Seed oil for the first time because i forgot to take it on Sunday night. boy does it taste bad. I had to double check the bottle to make sure it doesnt say cod liver oil.
Sleepless/hard falling asleep for the second night since Sunday. I wonder if this has anything to do with eating so late and the recent change in diet and excersize, or just me not sleeping well.
 

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Tuseday

Tuseday was a rest day for me.

Ate all my meals and on Time.

Took all vitamins and other pills and stuff

Once again had a hard time falling asleep, losing at least half of my sleeping hours. Just got to the office today and feeling drowsey. I wonder what could be causing all this loss of sleep.
 
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"I understand the general consencous(including that of BoBo's) is that you cannot build Rome in a day or 2 month. However, many of the cleints reported 20 pound muscle gains in the 2 month program. For me, 20 pounds of muscle will be the equivelence of Rome, or even China. Hence the name of the B/Log."



If you even remotely expect to get anything close, you will be disappointed. Nobody gains 20lbs of muscle in 2 months....20lbs of WEIGHT is a completely different story and even that is extremely rare.
 
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you HAVE to keep eating. for me the first 2 weeks was no problem then I felt like i was 'full'. I can count on one hand how many times I've been hungry since. But i keep eating even if I think I'm as full as can be.

As far as the workout. if your not 'feeling it' do 1 of 2 things. just increase the weight you are using OR drop the weight and really focus on the timing. I've noticed depending on the counts i need to keep I'll adjust the weight accordingly. for example today I was doing low pulley rows. When i do them with a 2-2 count i can use the whole stack
(22 or something). today i had to do a 3-2. to feel the weights i had to drop to 16/17. Log the weights you are using for at least a month to get the feel of what you do for each count. After about a month you'll be able to feel your way through the weights and timing.

B/c you said your not much of a lifter i imagine your problem is with form and knowing how to use it to your advantage. put your ego aside and stress form and maintaing the counts. Differing the time under pressure for your muscles will make them grow at the speed of bobo.

suggestion: for pull-ups try to use the weight-assisted machine if your gym has one or get someone who works there or a friend to hold your feet and give you a little help. i have bad shoulders and the pull ups hurt the joints sometimes so I'll use the assisted machine for the first 2 sets and then use my own body weight is everything stays in working order. GL and keep eating!
 

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Thanks everyone for the replies

On wendsday I ate all my meals again and did all my workouts except for the barbell overhead tri extensions. I could barely lift the bar over my head. substituted for a dumbell.

As for bobo, I really have no expectations except that I wont get too fat. Any good decent gains are appreciated, I havent experinced difficulty gaining, but have a hard time doing it in a controled, less fattening way.

I really am not being impatient or anything if I am coming off that way. Its just I am in such a bad state of feeling, I dont know whats going on. for the fourth night now, I had very little sleep. waking up at least 5 times during the night. Stomach aches, feeling very weak and cold. head hurts/numb no doubt from the sleep deprivation. mood is very very low. At this point, I dont even think about the gains, I just wish i felt better. If this has anything to do with anything that i am doing, I fear i might not beable to continue.

maybe this is just not for me. I am decided to hold on until the weeks end(saturday) to make a decision.
 
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take a sleep aide like melatonin or something. Or get a prescription from your doc. OR go crazy and pick up some powerfull from nutraplanet or even REM if they still have it. i was on powerfull for a month or so. really good supp for muscle building and sleep. Just a suggestion, would hate to see you bail!
 
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Thanks everyone for the replies

On wendsday I ate all my meals again and did all my workouts except for the barbell overhead tri extensions. I could barely lift the bar over my head. substituted for a dumbell.

As for bobo, I really have no expectations except that I wont get too fat. Any good decent gains are appreciated, I havent experinced difficulty gaining, but have a hard time doing it in a controled, less fattening way.

I really am not being impatient or anything if I am coming off that way. Its just I am in such a bad state of feeling, I dont know whats going on. for the fourth night now, I had very little sleep. waking up at least 5 times during the night. Stomach aches, feeling very weak and cold. head hurts/numb no doubt from the sleep deprivation. mood is very very low. At this point, I dont even think about the gains, I just wish i felt better. If this has anything to do with anything that i am doing, I fear i might not beable to continue.

maybe this is just not for me. I am decided to hold on until the weeks end(saturday) to make a decision.
Well I would skip the bedtime meal and just use the post workout meal as you bedtime meal. There really isn't anything that eating before bed is going to do to you that makes you feel THIS way. Maybe you have to move your workouts up in the day because I"ve never had anyone have this problem before. You could just have some sort of bug or something.

You might just need a fews days away from training. If you aren't feeling well then certainly take some days off. You could have just overworked yourself at first...
 

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Well I would skip the bedtime meal and just use the post workout meal as you bedtime meal. There really isn't anything that eating before bed is going to do to you that makes you feel THIS way. Maybe you have to move your workouts up in the day because I"ve never had anyone have this problem before. You could just have some sort of bug or something.

You might just need a fews days away from training. If you aren't feeling well then certainly take some days off. You could have just overworked yourself at first...
I physically cannot move the gym session up. I wake up at 7 am to prepare to go to work, take the subway, get to work at around 9. and get home at 7 30. there is no gym near enough to work that I can go and workout in 1 hour during lunch(some of the days require around 1 hour of rest time alone). I really trust you, and if you say that this is not caused by the new routine, I will just tough it out for a bit and see what happens.
 

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Thursday, Once again ate all my food vitamins all on time(I really am not gonna have a problem with the diet. I follow orders like a soldier :) )
Thursday was legs day, I have to say its been the best workout I have had since on this program. I actually feel my muscles were getting fatigued. However, still not sore on Friday morning. Still not enough weight? as this is only my second week in the gym, any amount of weight should result in some kind of soreness after a 10 month break from the gym.
I was able to sleep a little more on thursday night also. Feeling a lot better because of the additional sleep. I think if i can sleep a full night, it will help me a lot.
 
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Thursday, Once again ate all my food vitamins all on time(I really am not gonna have a problem with the diet. I follow orders like a soldier :) )
Thursday was legs day, I have to say its been the best workout I have had since on this program. I actually feel my muscles were getting fatigued. However, still not sore on Friday morning. Still not enough weight? as this is only my second week in the gym, any amount of weight should result in some kind of soreness after a 10 month break from the gym.
I was able to sleep a little more on thursday night also. Feeling a lot better because of the additional sleep. I think if i can sleep a full night, it will help me a lot.
Donny,

How can I tell you how much weight it is? This is something YOU figure out. If you are getting through the reps, using the ratios and not failing, up the weight.

It sound to me like you arent even doing the ratios at all which some of the questions/comments you ask. IF you have a 2:2 ratio that means 2 seconds down, 2 seconds up...that's one full rep.

And once again, as I have ALREADY said, soreness means NOTHING.
 

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Donny,

How can I tell you how much weight it is? This is something YOU figure out. If you are getting through the reps, using the ratios and not failing, up the weight.

It sound to me like you arent even doing the ratios at all which some of the questions/comments you ask. IF you have a 2:2 ratio that means 2 seconds down, 2 seconds up...that's one full rep.

And once again, as I have ALREADY said, soreness means NOTHING.
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I am doing the ratios I Swear !!!!!:aargh: :aargh:
(if I am correct squats didnt have a ratio, and lunges where 1:1 which is a normal movement, the leg press I used the ratio, and so did I with the calves raises. I am still in the process of figuring out how much weight, where I would do a set, and then up the weight, but then not beable to maintain the ratio or the number, and then down it again. So the sets are a little messed up sometimes. but with time, I trust this will get much better)
I am trying my best.

On Friday, I ate all my meals on time, did all my exercises. and slept until 10 am on saturday, this is a luxury i usual do not have, hopefully this will help me recover some of the lost sleep.

Up on examining my excersize schedule, I realize that only 1 shoulder excersize is included, the arnold press. Is this the only one that I will need since a lot of compound exercises are used like dips and stuff?
 
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I am doing the ratios I Swear !!!!!:aargh: :aargh:
(if I am correct squats didnt have a ratio, and lunges where 1:1 which is a normal movement, the leg press I used the ratio, and so did I with the calves raises. I am still in the process of figuring out how much weight, where I would do a set, and then up the weight, but then not beable to maintain the ratio or the number, and then down it again. So the sets are a little messed up sometimes. but with time, I trust this will get much better)
I am trying my best.

On Friday, I ate all my meals on time, did all my exercises. and slept until 10 am on saturday, this is a luxury i usual do not have, hopefully this will help me recover some of the lost sleep.

Up on examining my excersize schedule, I realize that only 1 shoulder excersize is included, the arnold press. Is this the only one that I will need since a lot of compound exercises are used like dips and stuff?
Yes, the only one you need. IT sounds like you are starting to adjust a bit...

It takes time...weeks, not days.
 

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If you even remotely expect to get anything close, you will be disappointed. Nobody gains 20lbs of muscle in 2 months....20lbs of WEIGHT is a completely different story and even that is extremely rare.
However, if you follow the program to the letter you won't disappointed. I was also skeptical when I did this program and wanted to second guess a lot of it. The best advice is go with the program, as prescribed, for the duration. Bobo will make adjustments as required based on your progress (or lack thereof.)
 

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Up on examining my excersize schedule, I realize that only 1 shoulder excersize is included, the arnold press. Is this the only one that I will need since a lot of compound exercises are used like dips and stuff?
Yeah, I had a similar reaction. My delts suck so I wanted to put in an extra effort there. Don't worry about it now. Build Rome first, then sculpt it.
 
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Shoulders are probably the most over trained muscle group. You hit them directly and indirectly with chest and back so the need for many sets of direct work isn't warranted. It simply isn't that large a muscle group.
 

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Shoulders are probably the most over trained muscle group. You hit them directly and indirectly with chest and back so the need for many sets of direct work isn't warranted. It simply isn't that large a muscle group.
I think this is very true, my delts are way more pronounced then my chest is. there is that deep ridge between them. I have total faith in BOBO's methods, what i am doubting is my ability to do everything the way its intended to be done. my food scale just arrived so now i will be measuring all my chicken and fish to make sure i take in just the right amount.
 

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On saturday and Sunday, I skipped one meal because on Saturday I have to cook all that food and on Sunday I have to buy more food for next week.

But other then that, I ate all the rest of the meals, and did my workout on Sunday.

What I am noticing is some recovery in strength. I wouldn't say its gained yet, but my strength is getting a bit better on the lifts.

I weighted myself on sunday first thing and the scale shows 173. I simplely dont know if I have gained any weight. The scale would show in the high 160s and sometimes in the low 170s depends on the day i measure.

I took all the tape measurements again and none of them has changed significantly enough to be different

I am not sure at this point how to evaluate the process and determine my progress. Is it too early to revaluate the plan at this point bobo?
 
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Uhhh...6 days?!?!?!? Yeah, I would say so. Try 6 weeks for any significant muscle growth.
 
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I heard an average solid net gain of lean tissue is around 12lbs per year - natural.

Stick with it donny, ive been up and down in lifting more times than an elevator.
 

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Just take measurements once a week or you'll go nuts. My tape and scales don't see the light of day until saturday morning.
 
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I heard an average solid net gain of lean tissue is around 12lbs per year - natural.

Stick with it donny, ive been up and down in lifting more times than an elevator.
I've gained about 25 in about 14 months. 10 were from a PH cycle I did last april however, so that may be cheating a bit. Take that away and your right on.
 

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so then how do we determine if the program is working for me or not if there is no visible change within 6 weeks. I thought there is suppose to be quantifable progress so that we can fine tune the program to fit our individual needs...

anyways, i havent posted in a while. I am doing everything that i am supposed to. havent missed a meal or a workout in the past few days. The general feeling is kind of blah. I come out of the gym fatigued. Still missing the feeling of pump. muscles feel limp rather then full.

some notable changes is there is somewhat of a increase in strength i guess. Not sure about this yet, its just a feeling, like the exercises are feeling better.

Sleeplessness is still a HUGE problem, I talked to a buddy who works out with me, he says he cant fall asleep either when he works out at night. but there are 3 dozen poeple in the gym working out in the evening. How are they all falling asleep i wonder.

I am also not sure if I am gaining weight. the Scale really isnt gonna tell me that. yesterday I got a job for shooting a promo card for a club, the photographer said my face is losing angularity just a little bit comparing to he last saw me(4 month ago). I wonder if this is true, because the photos looks really good. maybe its the makeup....
 
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so then how do we determine if the program is working for me or not if there is no visible change within 6 weeks. I thought there is suppose to be quantifable progress so that we can fine tune the program to fit our individual needs...
Small weight changes, strength, etc....Quantifiable progress? Donny, I tihnk we need a reality check first as to what you are going to gain. If you get 1lb/week...thats good. Measure arms, legs, chest, etc....? Before and after pics?

anyways, i havent posted in a while. I am doing everything that i am supposed to. havent missed a meal or a workout in the past few days. The general feeling is kind of blah. I come out of the gym fatigued. Still missing the feeling of pump. muscles feel limp rather then full.
You are supposed to be tired.

some notable changes is there is somewhat of a increase in strength i guess. Not sure about this yet, its just a feeling, like the exercises are feeling better.
Strenght means growth in this program.

Sleeplessness is still a HUGE problem, I talked to a buddy who works out with me, he says he cant fall asleep either when he works out at night. but there are 3 dozen poeple in the gym working out in the evening. How are they all falling asleep i wonder.
This is something that you have to figure out for yourself. Only you can change your schedule to fit your own needs. I can tell you too, but its up to you to change it.

I am also not sure if I am gaining weight. the Scale really isnt gonna tell me that. yesterday I got a job for shooting a promo card for a club, the photographer said my face is losing angularity just a little bit comparing to he last saw me(4 month ago). I wonder if this is true, because the photos looks really good. maybe its the makeup....
How can the scale not tell you if you aren't gaining weight? Thats what they do.





Donny, if I am going to make changes then I am actually going to need some numbers here. Weight, measurements, etc.....How am I supposed to know whats going on with you when you're not even weighing yourself and giving me "I'm not sure" type answers. Of course you arent sure, you aren't doing anything to find out!


You will grow. Thats an order!!!!! :D
 

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You will grow. Thats an order!!!!! :D
But don't forget, it's a marathon, not a sprint. You'll make progress, but you have to put in your time. Also, what I've noticed for both cutting andr bulking is that it happens in spurts. The rule of thumb is 1-1.5/lbs per week, but it is just a rule of thumb. I've experienced (in both directions) where I wouldn't modify anything week after week. Some weeks it seemed like no change, then, BAM, busting through major plateaus.

Give Bobo what he needs, otherwise he's only guessing. And you end up wasting both your time and money.
 

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I havent updated in a while, but everything is going better. except the sleep that is. but that is something for another post.
stats actually changed a little tiny weeny bit after week 2

Chest: 40 inches
Waist: 33 inches
thighs: 21 inches
Arm/biceps: 13.75 inches
calves: 16 inches

that makes a .25 inch gain in arms I an not even sure it should be consider gains or the margin of error.

The reason why I am telling everyone I am not sure about how much I weigh is because the scale is sending me very mixed signals. within a single week, I can weigh from 164 to 174. On Sunday(the beggining of week 3, I measured myself to be 164 pounds, but yesterday, i measured before gym, and it was 174... how much do i realy weigh? I dont have an single clue.
I firmly believe I am gaining weight, if not muscle. My face defenetly started to lose defenition(we notice these things first because a lot of us look into the mirrior way too much). while there still isnt very visible signs of this on my body yet.

Secondly, I am becoming a lot stronger. I can perform all sets of 8 dips now, still working on the full set of pull ups altho not yet there. This is been a huge improvement if you consider this is only the third week. Weights that I am lifting goes up every week. which can be a problem at determining how much to lift. But the strength gain is very very welcome.

sleep is such a huge things still. cant fall asleep. peroid. very shallow sleep that is kind of like a haze. I am not sure what i should do. should I take some sleeping aids? I physically cannot move up my gym time. and I really want to and will go to the gym. So i guess my options are extremely limited.

I am scarcely missing a meal on the weekends sometimes. I usually eat everything and on time. My over all mood has also gotten better.

I guess what I am asking is different then what I am saying. and I should make it more clear. At this point, what i want is not to change the program. but to find out how I can access my progress and see if the program needs changing. I am weighing myself. a different number comes out everyday. and it can go up and down 5 10 pounds. I am measuring, but very little is different.

I guess thats all for this update. still having faith in the program and bobo drives me forward even tho i have no social life or time to have fun any more.
 
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You need to do a weight check the same time each week...if you are up, you are growing. Its that simple. Take measurements the same time each week. If they are up, you're growing. Until I have that, I have nothing to work with.


Stop weighing yourself everyday. From what I hear so far, weight is up, measurements are up, you're growing. Its that simple.
 
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forget the measurements and the scale...I weighed myself once every few days and took no measurements until the end. just eat and lift and have faith. Its the only way to do this.
 

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Best bet is to weigh yourself early morning pre first meal / post toilet once per week on the SAME SCALE, at least it will accurately measure any weight increase even if its not calibrated correctly.

If you want to check your scale though grab various weights and put them on and see how accurate it is.

Also take more measurements, Ive found increases in calves and forearms so you may be gaining elsE where.

Good luck!
 

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It’s that simple.
Lots of folks have a tendency to overcomplicate this process. Follow the directions and don’t second guess UNTIL you know what you are doing. When I bulk, my weight also fluctuates dramatically during the week. This is to be expected. That's why it's paramount to weight yourself ONLY once a week - on the SAME day, at the SAME time, on the SAME scale.
 

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measurement are up

chest 40.5
Waist 32.5
thigh 22
bis 14
calves 15.75

weight is at 168 not sure if its up or not

waist size actually decreased.

had a really good work out today but i took some wax maize starch with brown rice because i didnt have any more bagels left and its easter so the place where i get the bagels isnt open. I wonder if the energy/pump has to do with the carb intake.
Actually feel like i am looking better as well. if i can solve the sleep issue, It will be great.

but other then that one thing. everything is going great.
 

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one word Tamazepam. Works great for me when i need it. Don't take it but once or twice a month though. talk to your doc about it.
Once a month isnt exactly going to help me if i cant fall asleep every work-out night is it? i will look it up nonetheless, thanks.
 
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I think you missed the point there. its a prescription sleep aid. I take it minimally b/c I don't need it. it is essentially valium however and subject to a certain level of addiction
 

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I think you missed the point there. its a prescription sleep aid. I take it minimally b/c I don't need it. it is essentially valium however and subject to a certain level of addiction
yeah, thats never a good thing, I think i have an addictive personality. I am addicted to sex, organ meats, looking into the mirrior and all of that. I tried to limit my water intake in the evening. the sleep thing is gradually improving, but not by much. Last night was my day off and I slept very well. We will see about tonight.
 

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whats an organ meat? is that a cow penis?
Organ meat is a unified name for the internal organs of animals. I have a nic for weird foods(I am asian) I like things like stomachs, intestines, fish heads, duck feet, and the like. although i have been organ meat free(for the most part) since the start of this diet. I cant wait to hit up all my favorite resturants when I take a break. Hmmm.... Red Meattttttttttttt......... and this place that makes kick ass Zuppa de Pesces fra Diablo........ I will take a picture when I am chowing down in a 32 ounce porter house hehe
 
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I roomed with a korean and taiwaneese (sp) from Jackson, MS. Nothing like hanging with a Bruce Lee clone with a thick southern accent!
 

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