Straight up Kratom Red Vein Bali log

[John Smeton]

Hello and welcome to my Kratom log. This is my first time using Kratom. I do have sometimes pain while training, like I just got through physical therapy for my knee and I have to make sure im warmed up and not push it. Anpther thing I have to watch is my left bicep. My elbows I cant push either.

Thank you to macedog24 for making this happen.

Red Vein Bali is known for it’s more relaxing properties and is used to manage temporary discomfort. Great evening strain available in convenient to use capsules.

Today I was off my job as a delivery driver so I went to the city my girlfriend lives in 45 minutes away and we trained back together. I dosed four capsules immediately after a back workout, 2-2.4 grams, then cooked a meal. Of course I felt spending great time with her. Its been 8-9 hours since I last dosed and didn't seem to notice anything until recently where im feeling more relaxed. A mellow chilled out feeling is how I would describe it. Im still feeling it this long after i dosed , maybe because its my first time. I definitely feel it now though, earlier like four hours after i dosed I didnt feel much, although maybe it was bc I was with my girl and was already feeling good.

This is nice because I am in contest prep, dieting, training, and something nice to have to chill out. Ive heard stories of addiction and opiate like effects and Ive heard agmatine to be good for the days in between so ill be using agmatine tomorrow before my chest training. Ill update when i dose next

 

[LeanEngineer]

Sweet. In on this!

 

[kisaj]

Straight up is straight up one of the best qualities out there. I've tried multiple brands and strains and keep coming back. I have stocks of red, green, and white maeng da.

Never had their red bali since they moved to Straight up from Mile Hi. May need to check this out as well.

 

[John Smeton]

Straight up is straight up one of the best qualities out there. I've tried multiple brands and strains and keep coming back. I have stocks of red, green, and white maeng da.

Never had their red bali since they moved to Straight up from Mile Hi. May need to check this out as well.

Good to hear. I felt it today up to about 5-6 o clock where it weened off. I very very mildly still feel it, its mostly gone. It was noticeable when I woke up at 3:30 when I went into work. Maybe because its my first time

 

[kisaj]

Red Bali hits me quite hard and it is very sedating. Too much and I get foggy and the eye wobbles, so I tend to like it before bed and in low-moderate quantities. I can be a little more carefree with Maeng Da because I don't get the wobbles or any sides other than some difficulty sleeping if I take it after 5pm.

 

[John Smeton]

Last night I took six capsules and didnt notice much at all. I spent the five six hours with y girlfriend, and maybe I didnt notice it because I was feeling wonderful with her. When i got home I just felt good, and I sleep very nice. I woke up and ate and went back to bed. This seems to help feeling hungry maybe. Its a nice relaxer

 

[John Smeton]

Today I dosed the first time going into work, four capsules. I definitely felt it about an hour in, a smooth, mellow, relaxed feeling. I didn't feel this quite like this, the two previous times I used it , more than likely because I was with my girlfriend being intimate, those love chemicals may have masked it lol. It'd be interesting to try to more daytime strains .

This strain is relaxing and the way I would describe the feeling is like a good meditation feeling. It is a really nice tool and I can see how this beats alcohol for going out socially. I trained back thickness after I got off work , back width before, twice a day training, and had a great training session.

 

[macedog24]

Straight up is straight up one of the best qualities out there. I've tried multiple brands and strains and keep coming back. I have stocks of red, green, and white maeng da.

Never had their red bali since they moved to Straight up from Mile Hi. May need to check this out as well.

Yes sir. Kisaj knows his kratom! Thank you
For the kind words. Pm me if you need any info or questions. Thx mace

 

[macedog24]

Today I dosed the first time going into work, four capsules. I definitely felt it about an hour in, a smooth, mellow, relaxed feeling. I didn't feel this quite like this, the two previous times I used it , more than likely because I was with my girlfriend being intimate, those love chemicals may have masked it lol. It'd be interesting to try to more daytime strains .

This strain is relaxing and the way I would describe the feeling is like a good meditation feeling. It is a really nice tool and I can see how this beats alcohol for going out socially. I trained back thickness after I got off work , back width before, twice a day training, and had a great training session.

First i apologize for just getting here. Was out with pneumonia. If youbhave any questions feel free to ask me or pm me. Thank you john for taking the time to log .
Glad to see your enjoying the caps.
If you eat or take them with food it will diminish the effects. Empty stomach is best. You could try taking them with oj or grapefruit juice. These are potentiators. These will help increase the desired affects.
Your still on the lower end of taking 4-6 caps. Which is good. If your getting results and the effects your looking for at those lower doses that is awesome.. But if your looking for more, i would suggest upping your dose a little. Maybe by 2 caps. Then stay there a few days. Or as long as you like. Nothing wrong with tinkering around with your dose to find out what works best for you.
Keep up the great work. Looking forward to more of your log.

 

[kisaj]

Sweet, usual swift shipping, I ordered my red bali caps on Tuesday night and they arrived today. Gonna run these and compare notes.

Also, got some enhanced white and holeee crap, this stuff is some herbal go fast. Only 2.5gr and I'm flying.

 

[macedog24]

Sweet, usual swift shipping, I ordered my red bali caps on Tuesday night and they arrived today. Gonna run these and compare notes.

Also, got some enhanced white and holeee crap, this stuff is some herbal go fast. Only 2.5gr and I'm flying.

Nice.. Glad your liking the effects!!
Thanks for keeping us updated kisaj.

 

[John Smeton]

Dosed six capsules after a workout before heading into work. After an hour it crept up on me and noticed it. relaxed, melting type feeling, clear headed. This lasted a few hours.

 

[John Smeton]

Dosed six capsules after a workout, after training legs, three hours before bed. Noticed feeling more relaxed, calming feeling. I did legs and everything feels good and relaxed. Mental relaxation as well. Its a nice calorie free relaxer for sure, six capsules today worked well.

 

[macedog24]

Dosed six capsules after a workout, after training legs, three hours before bed. Noticed feeling more relaxed, calming feeling. I did legs and everything feels good and relaxed. Mental relaxation as well. Its a nice calorie free relaxer for sure, six capsules today worked well.

Thanks for the feedback. And keep enjoying yourself.

 

[kisaj]

I was going to start an unsponsored log, but I will just comment here since you are also running the red bali caps.

So I am on day 5- doing 2 on, 1 off. I also take agmatine, and this helps tremendously with any withdrawal or tolerance build up. I took 4 caps the first day and have been taking 5 since then. I am no novice to kratom and have taken plenty of bali and reds, and love my greens, so I know what to expect.

So far: I am finding that this red bali is more euphoric than others I have taken in the past. I also am finding that it is not as sedating (which is a good thing), but very relaxing physically, yet energetic mentally. The combination is great because even after a 10hr work day, I can play with the kids, help with homework and dinner, and then crank out another 20 emails after they are in bed. My mind is going and sharp, but I am relaxed and zero stress. I am finding these to be of high quality and the sourcing is on point with other Mile High/Straight Up products I take. I see no reason to go above 5-6 right now as I do tend to be sensitive to red bali.

Overall I think that this is a very fine option for after work or stressful times that you need to unload, but can't be debilitated or foggy. I have no trouble sleeping and the next morning is no problem. Again, the euphoria needs to be called out. This is by far my favorite part of kratom in general and it is not lacking here. The only downside is that I feel so good that I need to stay off Amazon because I want to buy everything I see.

 

[John Smeton]

I was going to start an unsponsored log, but I will just comment here since you are also running the red bali caps.

So I am on day 5- doing 2 on, 1 off. I also take agmatine, and this helps tremendously with any withdrawal or tolerance build up. I took 4 caps the first day and have been taking 5 since then. I am no novice to kratom and have taken plenty of bali and reds, and love my greens, so I know what to expect.

So far: I am finding that this red bali is more euphoric than others I have taken in the past. I also am finding that it is not as sedating (which is a good thing), but very relaxing physically, yet energetic mentally. The combination is great because even after a 10hr work day, I can play with the kids, help with homework and dinner, and then crank out another 20 emails after they are in bed. My mind is going and sharp, but I am relaxed and zero stress. I am finding these to be of high quality and the sourcing is on point with other Mile High/Straight Up products I take. I see no reason to go above 5-6 right now as I do tend to be sensitive to red bali.

Overall I think that this is a very fine option for after work or stressful times that you need to unload, but can't be debilitated or foggy. I have no trouble sleeping and the next morning is no problem. Again, the euphoria needs to be called out. This is by far my favorite part of kratom in general and it is not lacking here. The only downside is that I feel so good that I need to stay off Amazon because I want to buy everything I see.

Glad to hear this about the euphoria. I'm taking agmatine as well. The studies on it are nice.

 

[macedog24]

I was going to start an unsponsored log, but I will just comment here since you are also running the red bali caps.

So I am on day 5- doing 2 on, 1 off. I also take agmatine, and this helps tremendously with any withdrawal or tolerance build up. I took 4 caps the first day and have been taking 5 since then. I am no novice to kratom and have taken plenty of bali and reds, and love my greens, so I know what to expect.

So far: I am finding that this red bali is more euphoric than others I have taken in the past. I also am finding that it is not as sedating (which is a good thing), but very relaxing physically, yet energetic mentally. The combination is great because even after a 10hr work day, I can play with the kids, help with homework and dinner, and then crank out another 20 emails after they are in bed. My mind is going and sharp, but I am relaxed and zero stress. I am finding these to be of high quality and the sourcing is on point with other Mile High/Straight Up products I take. I see no reason to go above 5-6 right now as I do tend to be sensitive to red bali.

Overall I think that this is a very fine option for after work or stressful times that you need to unload, but can't be debilitated or foggy. I have no trouble sleeping and the next morning is no problem. Again, the euphoria needs to be called out. This is by far my favorite part of kratom in general and it is not lacking here. The only downside is that I feel so good that I need to stay off Amazon because I want to buy everything I see.

Excellent review and thank you kisaj!
And i couldnt agree more. The euphoria is very nice and a favorite of mine as well.

 

[John Smeton]

I was going to start an unsponsored log, but I will just comment here since you are also running the red bali caps.

So I am on day 5- doing 2 on, 1 off. I also take agmatine, and this helps tremendously with any withdrawal or tolerance build up. I took 4 caps the first day and have been taking 5 since then. I am no novice to kratom and have taken plenty of bali and reds, and love my greens, so I know what to expect.

So far: I am finding that this red bali is more euphoric than others I have taken in the past. I also am finding that it is not as sedating (which is a good thing), but very relaxing physically, yet energetic mentally. The combination is great because even after a 10hr work day, I can play with the kids, help with homework and dinner, and then crank out another 20 emails after they are in bed. My mind is going and sharp, but I am relaxed and zero stress. I am finding these to be of high quality and the sourcing is on point with other Mile High/Straight Up products I take. I see no reason to go above 5-6 right now as I do tend to be sensitive to red bali.

Overall I think that this is a very fine option for after work or stressful times that you need to unload, but can't be debilitated or foggy. I have no trouble sleeping and the next morning is no problem. Again, the euphoria needs to be called out. This is by far my favorite part of kratom in general and it is not lacking here. The only downside is that I feel so good that I need to stay off Amazon because I want to buy everything I see.

I'm glad you don't find red bali not too sedating and energetic mentally.

have you tried 7-8 capsules?

 

[kisaj]

I'm glad you don't find red bali not too sedating and energetic mentally.

have you tried 7-8 capsules?

No I haven't. Right now 5 is working well and I try not to up my kratom intake. If I need to, then I take a break rather than upping it. You can get caught chasing if you need to keep upping to feel effects and that is never a good thing.

 

[macedog24]

No I haven't. Right now 5 is working well and I try not to up my kratom intake. If I need to, then I take a break rather than upping it. You can get caught chasing if you need to keep upping to feel effects and that is never a good thing.

I stay at 6gr or below.

 

[John Smeton]

No I haven't. Right now 5 is working well and I try not to up my kratom intake. If I need to, then I take a break rather than upping it. You can get caught chasing if you need to keep upping to feel effects and that is never a good thing.

I agree. Thanks for saying this as its good to be reminded. Im aware tolerance on this builds fast, as a buddy of mine said she said to take more to get the same effects , when she used four days a week. Yes less days a week is best.

 

[John Smeton]

I did 5 capsules after a back width training session, with a meal, eat an orange with it, maybe that helped increase effects since orange juice supposed to. I went into work, and it was subtle yet nice, maybe increased socialness noticed. Its a very subtle feeling and nothing major , at least at this dose. After work I trained back thickness and trained great. This stuff really doesn't seem to sedate me or anything

 

[kisaj]

You definitely want to take kratom away from food. Either 45-60 min before or 2-3 hours post meal. For me, it reduces the effects by at least half.

 

[John Smeton]

You definitely want to take kratom away from food. Either 45-60 min before or 2-3 hours post meal. For me, it reduces the effects by at least half.

Thank you. I took it four capsules first thing with bcaa and eaa;s this morning before a cardio session, 50 minutes cardio on empty. Got some myofascal release work done. felt relaxed all day. I did see my girlfriend and have incredible sex so that helped as well. Today was zero carb day as well and I felt like kratom helped with the zero carbs. I can see where this can be benefi al for contest prep on those zero carb days.

I was going to dose another four capsules at night , my girlfriend said you dont need it. Im glad I listened. Four capsules does the trick. It takes self control of course. Space dosing out though out the week.

 

[kisaj]

Nice little find about the benefits of agmatine and kratom. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12852826

 

[John Smeton]

Nice little find about the benefits of agmatine and kratom. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12852826

Nice study I took 1 gram before training shoulders and 0.5 grams before hitting abs and biceps today.

does this mean if I took agmatine before a workout and kratom together itd make kratom stronger?

 

[kisaj]

No, it means that agmatine helps to reduce or eliminate tolerance and withdrawal symptoms.

 

[John Smeton]

No, it means that agmatine helps to reduce or eliminate tolerance and withdrawal symptoms.

Thank you. You read into that study better than I. I was thinking it potentiated the effects of kratom. I was thinking that if kratom was taking earlier in day than agmatine later it was increase effects. You know grapefuit juice and orange juice supposed to? I tried an orange. Im taking in 80 carbs a day so lol

 

[kisaj]

80g is something I cannot even imagine. I currently am taking in around 400+ and loving every delicious second of it.

Yes, I am aware of oj and grapefruit juice.

 

[John Smeton]

80g is something I cannot even imagine. I currently am taking in around 400+ and loving every delicious second of it.

Yes, I am aware of oj and grapefruit juice.

Getting ready for a contest and experimenting with this low carb. . Today was zero carbs

I did five capsules with bcaa's and went on a bike ride with my girlfriend. I really didn't notice anything. I might have been more mellow, thats about it. Today was a day off work, which being on low carb and me getting more iirated may be related. Just the relaxation, day with my baby, and a day off weights and no work made it enjoyable.

I do seem to notice a certain feeling from kratom I didn't get without esp when I work. when i'm off work its not noticeable or as noticable. I really couldn't tell anything today, other than feeling relaxed.

A lot of people say this red vein bali is too sedating to take and workout and I didnt find this was the case for me. Maybe I didn't go high enough , as I feel 4-6 capsules is enough. I do know once you go too high, with any herb, drug, its too late, so id rather keep this a happy medium.

Im curious ,I know what different reviews say about different strains but what other Kratom strains have you tried and could you compare them with your personal experience?

 

[John Smeton]

This stuff definitely made me feel different. It felt like a more mellow relaxing feeling. I didn't get to go out socially on this stuff, like night venues. I can see how this could be used as a recreational replacement, like alcohol, without the calories. I wouldn't go any more than 3 x's a week with taking off the day after. Agmatine the day after , pre weights, is a good idea.

4-6 capsules seemed to work well for me. In some of the other logs some people say no more than 7-8 capsules .