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Beastdrol into P-Plex log

chocolatemilk said:
Not only psychological, but strength wise, and physique wise. Obviously loss of water weight means a SUDDEN INSTANT drop in strength and a SUDDEN INSTANT shrinking effect on your physique. The less water weight lost suddenly, the better your strength will be and the better you will look. Especially once natural test and estrogen kick back up and allow you once again to pick up some water weight from just training.

Less drop, the better. SD bridge into another cutter steroid = less drop.



It's really not that big of a risk for a 6 week cycle assuming you have no pre-existing conditions, have supports, and you monitor your health and know what to look out for. Jaundice creeps up on people... it doesn't SUDDENLY appear lol. If you let yourself get to the point of Jaundice... you're an idiot. Flat out.

I quickly skimmed through this log and didn't know that's what he wanted to do.

I believe others have already pointed out SD/Phera bridged into Epi is a no no. Nobody told him to do that. They said drop the Phera, leave the Epi.



It made a huge difference for me. A world of difference.



I used hCG for my SD/Epi bridge. After stopping hCG in PCT, balls atrophied 20% for two days. After two days, completely back to normal. It was amazing. I loved it. I ate like sh*t in PCT cuz I didn't plan for school and my schedule got fukked up. Didn't even have protein powder for 1 week of PCT... yet I'm +15. So hCG combats SD/Epi suppressive nature very nicely and allows quick return of test levels (I didn't get bloods but I FEEL it in my nuts and body that I came back to normal rather quick). But I don't thing it's a BIG concern in the scope of real 12-14-16 week steroid cycles without hCG.



Test is really weaksauce in the scope of things. When I started the game, I thought test was the ultimate dark side. The ultimate gains from steroids.... psshhhht. Test is nothing but a base LOL. If you're a newb, test will do ya good, but if you've reached natural limits, test really won't push the envelope. Epi would be even stronger lol. Seriously.



LOL...


In all seriousness this isn't what I call arguing. I like having these discussions with people. Jason, tell us your experience with roids...
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I saw Unreal's post first and so addressed alot of these similar points in my reply to him above. I don't want to side track the OP's thread any more than I already have, but I will address your statement on safety. You have to understand that liver tox, specifically cholestatic injury, isn't the only risk to health from using 17a-methylated steroids. Many will also cause substantial reductions in HDL along with similarly large increases in LDL. This will of course normalize a month or so post cycle (usually but not always), but it's not a healthy state to be in for extended periods of time. No, some reasonably dosed and reasonabe duration, well spaced cycles won't kill a healthy person, but often, what began as a reasonable approach can gradually become longer and more frequent. It's then that the problems begin. I'm not saying it's an issue here, just something to be aware of.

Thanks for the solid responses and discussion. I certainly don't see it as negative either. It's interesting and other members might take something from it as well.

See my response to Unreal above for more responses (if you're interested ;-)

I do apologize for the disruption Ninja. Good luck with your cycle bro.
 
I wont sugar coat it. steroids are dangerous. all of them.

they can be used responsibly. but are super easy to use irresponsibly.

all steroids cause negative side effects to health. esp. in supraphysiological dosages.

there is no safe steroid. none.
 
so day 2
CHEST !!! ppppffff

my weakest bodypart.
although i did lift more than normal, i feel like my little sister could make these lifts.
bench press
135 x 10
155 x 10
225 x 5
205 x 8
205 x 6
205 x 5

incline db press
60 x15
60 x 15
60 x 12
50 x 18

dips
bw x 10
bw x 10
bw x 8
bw x 8

skull crushers
70 x 12
65 x 15
65 x 15

2 sets of cable flys to failure.

so i'm thinking i may need more volume, but i always get burnt out. i just struggle with chest a lot, but i'll keep pluggin. i had a bad ass headache today at the start of my workout. not sure if it's the sd, or just a random headache. if anyone has a better chest workout so i can up some strength, let me know, but this follows my current program, heavy sets of 5, followed by higher reps of the isolation exercises. tomorrows, an off day, and then thursday is back day, my favorite. Deadlifts !!!!
 
eh personally i hate volume. but there's a couple different ways to lift chest, for size or for strength. Now if you just want to bench more... back in the day I raised my bench up the most by just doing very low reps and high weight, working to a single 1 rep max every chest workout. Something like
10 rep warmup, 5 reps with moderate weight, 2 rep acclimation set, 2 rep acclimation set, 1 rep max
I was doing this back in 2006... In November I was at 275 bench max, by January 2007 I hit a 315 max. And that was natural, I was able to add about 5 pounds to the 1 rep max every lift and slowly but surely my bench kept going up (and took forever to increase after that hit 335 natural and then not natural ;))
My chest days would be something like this:
bench: 10/5/2/2/1rep max
incline bench: 3*8 (this is the actual bodybuilding style working sets for bench)
dumbell flys: 4*6 (heavy as possible)
+something else random

If you actually want to train bodybuilding style and make your chest bigger, I suggest more emphasis on dumbells and stuff like dumbell flys, those are really my favorite chest exercise in terms of achieving soreness. Bench is kind of overrated... but who doens't want to bench more.

My favorite way of benching, or actually doing more exercises, is doing 10-20 pound increases with static reps. Like 4*6.
225*6, 245*6, 265*6, 285*6. I mean, there's really only 1 working set there so it's very low volume... on the other hand, because there's only one working set, your working set is done at a very high weight. Now I usually dislike pyramiding because you tire yourself out before you can get to the heavy weight. Instead of doing 285*6... I might start with 225*15, then 245*10, then 265*5, and by the time I got to 285, barely squeeze out 3. That's just me, I fatigue very quickly... But my idea is to engineer my sets so that I can finish off doing the most weight for the most reps.

Anyway as for your workout, IMO, you should structure the bench more like 135*10, 185*6, 205*6, 225*6, 245*whatever you can do. Try to go heavy. Don't decrease the weight. Just my opinion anyway...
My WO partner, on chest day, did this for bench: 135*10, 225*10, 245*4, 275*2, 295*1
just another example of going heavy and trying to get stronger

With beastdrol into phera though your bench should pretty much skyrocket no matter how you bench. Eat a ton of food and train frequently if you're not getting sore. Recovery can be insane on these steroids.
 
cool, thanks for the advice. my main restriction is no workout partner, so i did the 225, but felt if i'd have tried it again, it would have been chillin on my chest untill someone hopefully walked by. but i figured just go as heavey as possible. i think, i'll cut back the reps to 3, and just go as heavy as i can. try to get 4 or 5 sets. or do what you mentioned and just get someone to spot me on that heavy set. i was also thinking about hitting chest twice per week, cause like you said, i recover quick so it'd pry help. should i go one heavy day, and then one day lighter with tons of reps? or heavy all the time. i do want strength, but the main priority is always size. i know with strength comes size, so i was focusing on strength this time. i'm not really worried about it, just always striving to improve my weaker points. i'll see what happens next week, and thanks again
 
hmm no simple solutions there first of all I always bench with a spotter, it's important to have that confidence so you can hit high weight and hit failure.

As for benching twice a week, it would be acceptable if you're going light/heavy. Like if you want to go hardcore balls to the wall strength training, I have done a little modified westside where one day you do liek I mentioned where you work up to a 1 rep max, and then on the light days you do "speed bench" with much much less than your max.

To keep it simple though I would stick to bodybuilding and not do twice a week. But what you can do instead is have a kind of rolling routine. So you hit bench on Tuesday... By Saturday or Sunday if you aren't sore at all you could bench again. Same for every other muscle group really. On SD I think you can lift like 5x a week no problem maybe even 6x. Like 4-5 days between hitting the same muscle group though; twice a week is a little too much for me anyway.
 
good call, i was thinking that 3 days off was a little much, maybe i can go 2 days on, 1 day off, and just keep that up. i am sore the next day, but by the second day, i'm good to go. and i might as well go big while the goods are flowing. in the words of Ronnie Coleman, " Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder, but don't nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weights!!!" time for me to step it up.
 
Def some great advice given by Unreal as usual.
I like switching my bench days up. 1 week go heavy with incline bb and then next do more reps with DBs. Seems to be working for me but then again Im on Tren and Epi.
 
Looking good brotha. Good job on those squats don't be ashamed of them cause I'm right there with you. I was thrilled to workout with 255 first set last workout.

Does your gym not have the little bail out hook above the head? You don't have to get it up very high to get it on there.

2 heavy workouts on the same body part are fine especially when on. The thing that determines the frequency you can workout is your volume and intensity. So going to failure can make you need more time to recover along with high volume. DC training is twice per week but only a rest pause set is used so only 3 failures per body part per workout.

I usually only due 6 sets per body part all to failure so I am able to workout Each muscle group every 3-4 days and still grow.
 
DC isn't quite twice per week... It's MWF so you hit the same bodypart Monday/Friday one week and then only Wednesday the next week. So it's not twice per week, and it's only 3x a week because the intensity is so high. U are absolutely right tho it's a big tradeoff between frequency and intensity.

I would train heavy every 4-5 days or so but not twice a week... some people can handle it but I'd rather train a broader spectrum of bodyparts and exercises than more frequency on the same stuff.

4-on-1-off I think is my favorite training while on SD

First time I ran SD though I didn't even have a routine. I pretty much just trained whatever wasn't sore. It ended up being 4 on 1 off more or less. Just keep hitting everything. I would make sure something isn't sore at ALL when u train it though.
 
UnrealMachine said:
DC isn't quite twice per week... It's MWF so you hit the same bodypart Monday/Friday one week and then only Wednesday the next week. So it's not twice per week, and it's only 3x a week because the intensity is so high. U are absolutely right tho it's a big tradeoff between frequency and intensity.

I would train heavy every 4-5 days or so but not twice a week... some people can handle it but I'd rather train a broader spectrum of bodyparts and exercises than more frequency on the same stuff.

4-on-1-off I think is my favorite training while on SD

First time I ran SD though I didn't even have a routine. I pretty much just trained whatever wasn't sore. It ended up being 4 on 1 off more or less. Just keep hitting everything. I would make sure something isn't sore at ALL when u train it though.
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so while on my sd/pp, i'd prolly benefit more from this?

1. chest/tri's
2. legs
3. shoulders/traps
4. back/bi's
off/cardio/abs
repeat
 
IMO it would be good for bulking while on good orals like SD and PP. I feel like you can do more than 1x a week but 2x a week is too much. 5 day rolling routine like that is a pretty good compromise.
 
UnrealMachine said:
IMO it would be good for bulking while on good orals like SD and PP. I feel like you can do more than 1x a week but 2x a week is too much. 5 day rolling routine like that is a pretty good compromise.
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Yeah i'll give that a try starting next week, sh1t if I can get more workouts in, should=more muscle, especially all roided up on SD & PP :D
 
so, this is day three, and it's my first off day which makes me feel like a slacker, but i'm pretty sore all over. but here's the shocker. i'm drinking tons of water, but not peeing too much so i know this is all water, but holy smokes, i was 208 sunday night, and this afternoon, i'm 216. no joke. i've always shot way up in weight anytime i try, but not this fast. i'll start putting my weight in my daily posts, so you can see how much i fluctuate. i'm not sitting here pumped thinking i gained even 1 pound of muscle, but wow, does this help shoot the weight up. all water i know. anyway, tomorrow is deadlifts and my complete assult on the back. i can't freakin wait.
 
So today was my favorite.
Back day!! my weight was at 215, so i'm definatly hydrated. i started out with ab ripper x again to tighten the core, and then straight to deadlifts. i was kinda iffy on them cause my hams are still sore from mondays leg day, but i'm glad i pushed it.
Deadlifts
135 x 10
185 x 10
225 x 5
245 x 5
275 x 4
300 x 3
by this time, i'm on cloud 9. last week my sets of 245 of 5 reps felt really heavy. this week, with the sd running through the veins, i felt like an animal. i will have no problem doing 325 next week, and might just see if i can go higher. the back felt great. i never wear a belt, cause i feel like then i'll train myself to need one. any arguements there?
but after pulling the Tony Danza on the deadlifts..you know showin em "Who's the Boss"
i continued.
seated rows
13 x 25
14 x 18
15 x 12
14 x 16

pullups
ppssshhhh i suck
25 reps and it took me 5 sets, i just really struggle with them, but i know the best way to improve is to do more pullups. i should pry start throwin em in twice a week, cause if you cant do 10 freakin pullups......well enough said
ez bar curls
80 x 15
80 x 12
80 x 8

preacher dumbell curls
35 x 10
35 x 10
35 x 8

so this workout felt freakin awesome, and i wanted to do more, but was absolutely spent by the time i was done, so i guess i left it all in the gym. looking at it, it doesnt seem like that much, but i guess intensity is key. anyway, i love the sd so far, and can't wait to see where i am by the end of this 6 weeks.

diet is right on par with what my plan was, anything and everything all the time, everytime. i might be eating too much, but i dont care at all, cause i'm one of the few who loves cardio, so in a few months when i switch it up, i'll lose the blubber i might gain during this.
 
not bad ninja, yeah you really need to work on them pullups, might wanna hit em first when you're fresh too. i take a super wide grip, works so good. work your way up to 10 reps then start adding weight. you'll love em :)

also i never do abs before squats or deads, actually i never do them first, always after weights, you want your core to be fresh especially for something like deads & squats.
 
really abs last. i figured you'd want to tighten all the core muscles up first so you could safely go heavy with no belt. i did a test once and did a set of squats, and then did 2 sets of abs, and came back and did the same set of squats and it was a huge difference for me at how much more stable i was, and really how much easier it was the second time. hmmmm. i hear you about the pullups. i want to be able to bust out 20 bodyweight ones. so thanks for the advice. i'll get to 10, and start adding weight. that should speed things up. it's pretty bad if you look halfway decent and are somewhat big, compared to the people you hang with, but can't even do 10 freakin pull-ups. oh well i'll keep pluggin. i always did my pull-ups first, but wanted to be fresh for deadlifts. i think i'll switch it up every other week. since i hit 300 today, i'm pretty pumped about deadlifts now. but i need to have that wide v-back cobra look, so i guess it's time for an assult on pull-ups.
 
Ya def dont do abs 1st that is a sure fire way to fatigue ur core causing u to use ur back more. Im pretty crazy and would do that.

Keep working on the pull ups one of the best back exercises. If u want a V back do pull ups.
 
Tomahawk88 said:
Ya def dont do abs 1st that is a sure fire way to fatigue ur core causing u to use ur back more. Im pretty crazy and would do that.

Keep working on the pull ups one of the best back exercises. If u want a V back do pull ups.
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Exactly what i was trying to tell him.. You want your core to be fresh ninja!:eek5:
 
BarbellBeast said:
Exactly what i was trying to tell him.. You want your core to be fresh ninja!:eek5:
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Just reinforcing ur message my friend.

Think about ur body as a bridge u dont want to weaken it before u put a tank on it. Some stretching is good but nothing too taxing.
 
cool, well i'll listen to the pro's then and do the abs last.

so today was shoulders, the weight is at 215 and feeling very strong. loving this stuff so far.
smith machine military press
115 x 10
125 x 10
165 x 5
165 x 5

dumbell military press
55 x 8
55 x 8

upright row
80 x 15
80 x 15
80 x 12
80 x 11 1/2

close grip bench press
135 x 15
135 x 15
155 x 10
155 x 8
kept really strict form on these. elbows in very tight and it really pumped the triceps. felt great !!

face pulls machine low pulley
7 x 15
7 x 15
7 x 14
7 x 12

today was a pretty intense workout and didnt take much rest between sets. the pump was great. my wife works in the kids center at the ymca so i had to run and pick them up. i had a guy show me around and took me up to the free weight room. man, you go from feeling great to seeing 20 other guys bigger and more cut. good thing it just makes me want to work harder. i guess theres always someone bigger and stronger, but ****, these dudes were all bigger than me. oh well. i should pry start working out there so they can push me. anyway, sd is kickin ass for me, and i plan to only take tomorrow off, and then start my normal cycle over again on sunday. wheeew buddy, i can't wait, i'm gonna kill the legs. thanks again for all the advice. i'm starting to think the libido might be taking a hit. not sure how long it takes for shutdown to start, but i'm only a week in. i might have to throw in a few days of some sustain alpha. maybe i'm just spent from going balls to the wall. we'll see if i bounce back from a days rest.
 
BarbellBeast said:
not bad ninja, yeah you really need to work on them pullups, might wanna hit em first when you're fresh too. i take a super wide grip, works so good. work your way up to 10 reps then start adding weight. you'll love em :)

also i never do abs before squats or deads, actually i never do them first, always after weights, you want your core to be fresh especially for something like deads & squats.
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Tomahawk88 said:
Ya def dont do abs 1st that is a sure fire way to fatigue ur core causing u to use ur back more. Im pretty crazy and would do that.

Keep working on the pull ups one of the best back exercises. If u want a V back do pull ups.
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These are words of wisdom. Don't think of squats and deadlifts as being exercises for specific muscle groups. Instead when you do them, think of it as training the movement just like you'd train your golf swing or whatever sport you're familiar with. Squats and deads will train almost your entire body as well as your cardiovascular system. You could do nothing but squats (both front and back squat) and deadlifts and see development in your upper and lower body over time. It might not give you the exact physique you want (if you're a bb'er) but you would see significant muscular development and strength gains in your entire body.

The flip side is they're damn hard and place demands on your entire body in order to get through your sets. If you've pre-exhausted your abs, back, or other central muscle group, you run the risk of compromising your form and sustaining an injury. Plus it's nice when you can give a sigh of relief knowing the hardest part is behind you and now you can do the fun stuff like bench, abs etc. The only time this rule is reversed is if you're including highly technical work in the same workout (for example, drills for other sports, olympic lifts etc). Then, in general, it's better to work your way down in order of technicality.
 
yeah, i got the message. i guess i've just never felt like my core was taxed, or wore out after the ab ripper x video. it always seems to tighten up, and almost lock my upper body to my lower body and gives me this super solid, almost extra steady feel on those two exercises. my form, is always spot on. thats one thing i overexagerate. from hang clean, to squats, to deadlifts, i feel i pay more attention to proper form than to add on a ton of weight. but, i realize i don't know everything, so sunday, or monday, when i hit legs, i'm gonna do abs last, and i'll post how it went as far as weight and if they felt better. if my core feels loose, i might do just one set of hanging knee raises to just get it tight, but not a full 15 minute assult on the abs. i freakin love that video. anyway, thanks again for all the help and advise. i'm always open to advise on everything.
 
Aaahhhhhh Legs
so i took some advice from the legendary Mr. Unreal Machine, and took out one of the rest days and stepped up the workouts. so now it's 2 days on, one day off, and repeat. so today i went up and hit the legs. the weight is at 216. cant wait untill tomorrow, it always spikes after legs. SD is kickin some booty
Squats
135 x 10
185 x 10
225 x 5
275 x 5
315 x 3 PR wooo hooooooo
275 x 6
225 x 10
after this the legs were wanting a lawyer saying it had to be illegal what i had just done to them. muuuahahaha
Leg ext.
8 x 15
9 x 15
9 x 5
8 x 18
Leg curl
70 x 15
55 x 15 (slow and kept the stomach down on the bench, felt better in the hams)
60 x 14
60 x 12
Calf raises on leg press machine
16 x 18
16 x 15
16 x 15
16 x 12

then i went to abs, and instead of doing the ab ripper x by p90x, i did the abs core plus, which is the abs tape in their second installment of p90x. it's called p90x+. it was freakin hard. i listened to all the advise and did abs last which i have to admit, was really hard. i think i started doing them first so i made sure i got em in, cause i definatly wanted to leave after the legs, but stayed and pushed through. i have to say, it felt about the same having "fresh" abs, but maybe that helped me get to 315 on squats, and i really liked the analogy of my abs being a bridge, and not wanting to tax the bridge before i put a tank on it. thanks agin for the advice !!

the diet is going well. heres a typical day
7am protien shake with 2 tbs of flaxseed oil
9am 4 eggs, an avacado, 2 pb&j's.
11:30- 2 chicken breast, some pasta of some sort, broccli, 1 pb&j, some raw honeycomb
2:00- 2 pb&j's and an apple
315- 1 mr
3:30-5 is usually my workout
2 sccops of karbolyn, and a heaping teaspoon of bcaa's and a heaper of glutamine, within seconds of my last rep. 15 minutes later, a 2 sccop protien shake
6:30 dinner, this is anything and always different, but always a lot.
9:00, a 2 sccop protien shake with 4 fish oil pills, and usually my vita sport multivitamin, my cycle assist, and maybe some hawthorne berry pills if i didnt get em in with my meals during the day. this is usually the least i eat. some days i eat a few more pb&j's. i always get the all natual penut butter with penuts and salt as the only ingredient. and since i'm type A blood, this is awesome for me. i've read the book eating right for your bloodtype. for those of you interested, i followed it hardcore for 7 weeks straight with nothing off the list, and gained 7 lbs of lean mass, and lost 2 lbs of fat. just in that 7 weeks. no ph's, just heavy lifting and being right on par with all other supps. it just helps you assimilate all the food you eat. but i missed a lot of the other stuff, so i try to stay close, but come on, i'm supposed to be a vegetarian !!! that aint gonna work.

so i'm trying to get some pics up tonight if the kids leave me a lone long enought to get it done. they're not before pics, but 1 week in pics. you'll still be able to see a difference after week 6. man, i love working out !!!!!
 
jason79 said:
These are words of wisdom. Don't think of squats and deadlifts as being exercises for specific muscle groups. Instead when you do them, think of it as training the movement just like you'd train your golf swing or whatever sport you're familiar with. Squats and deads will train almost your entire body as well as your cardiovascular system. You could do nothing but squats (both front and back squat) and deadlifts and see development in your upper and lower body over time. It might not give you the exact physique you want (if you're a bb'er) but you would see significant muscular development and strength gains in your entire body.

The flip side is they're damn hard and place demands on your entire body in order to get through your sets. If you've pre-exhausted your abs, back, or other central muscle group, you run the risk of compromising your form and sustaining an injury. Plus it's nice when you can give a sigh of relief knowing the hardest part is behind you and now you can do the fun stuff like bench, abs etc. The only time this rule is reversed is if you're including highly technical work in the same workout (for example, drills for other sports, olympic lifts etc). Then, in general, it's better to work your way down in order of technicality.
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x2;) very well said buddy
 
cool, thanks. if i need 50 posts, i can wait. at least i have pics that are one week in, and will of course have after pics to compare to. i'll post a scan copy of my bodyfat sheets from before and after too.
 
ninja warrior said:
cool, thanks. if i need 50 posts, i can wait. at least i have pics that are one week in, and will of course have after pics to compare to. i'll post a scan copy of my bodyfat sheets from before and after too.
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Cool interested to see ur results man. 9 posts to go. U will be at 50 in no time.
 
does anyone have anything against using 1-mr while on cycle. i was gonna stay off so i had something to motivate me or just push it when i come off the cycle, but i just love it, and still use it. i wasnt sure if bp would get too high with the sd/pp and the stimulants in 1-mr. any advise? also, 1-mr, and n.o. explode seem to spike my libido for some reason. i get all pumped up from the caffiene, and then with all the increased blood flow i guess. i don't know.
 
Id say stay off the stims unless u r just completely dragging ass. U want to know how u react to the Beastdrol without an added BP spike.
 
today was chest !! weight is steady at 216. not sure why, but didnt have the umph today. i was kinda bummed cause i was hoping for an awesome chest day. anyway, it turned out to be a great workout, just wasnt excited as usual.
bench press
135 x 10
185 x 10
225 x 5
225 x 3 nice and slow, failed on 4th, not even close
215 x 7
205 x 8,
incline dumbells
70 x 14
70 x 10
60 x 15
60 x 9
incline flys
55 x 8
45 x 12
dips
6 x 25 pounds
5 x 25 pounds
10 x bodyweight
9 x bodyweight
rope pressdowns, but overhead pressing straight out.
12 x 45, then a few normal pressdowns total failure, just negatives
12 x 45, then same as last set
8 x 45, same as last 2 sets.

so i was totally spent muscle wise, so i know i pushed it, but can't help but want higher numbers in bench press. we need some heavier dumbells so i can focus on those. a 250lb monster told me that "dumbells are for building strength, barbells are just for showing it. stick to dumbells." his chest was freakishly awesome so i believe that to be true. makes sense too. i did 225 5 times, but couldnt do 110 lb db's for 5. oh well. all in time. i missed the 1mr. i just didnt have the energy i normally did, and it showed. tomorrows, off and wednesday, i will 100% be breaking my deadlift record. i can't wait !!!
 
interesting saying there, I'd say heavy dumbell flys trump any kind of press when it comes to killing your chest though. I'm up to 80 pound dumbells, and my chest still gets so sore from it. Presses are good but they don't work chest through nearly as much of a range of motion. just my opinion, I do love db flys though ;) the problem with presses is they make you way more prone to injury (especially shoulder) and that's a really big problem with benching especially as you get stronger
 
Back day !!!
so first off. watching video's of tomahawk beasting 675 doesnt mean your getting any stronger yourself. i was super motivated by his video, but the lower back said" wtf???
Deadlifts
135 x 10
185 x 10
225 x 8
275 x 5
315 x 1
315 x 1 new PR woo hooo
350 x 0 lower back said no good.
275 x 5
so not doing abs first gave me a soft feeling in the core. it honestly feels better when i do abs first. so i may keep doing that as long as i dont go heavy. if i go heavy, i'll keep the abs fresh. but now my back hurts, and it got me thinking. i lift for looks, not strength, so i'm gonna take a step back, and maintain perfect form, and just get a great pump. moving on
pullups
8
7
9
5
almost got 10 so this felt great for me
seated rows
130 x 15
130 x 15
130 x 15
110 x 20
lat pulldown
130 x 15
130 x 15
130 x 12
90 x failure, not sure on reps, but got a lot, was screamin going nuts. awesome!
ez bar curl
80 x 10
70 x 12
70 x 10
dumbell curls
30 x 10 dropsetted to 25,then 20, then 15's and my arms basically locked up
2nd set was the same

awesome workout as usual on back days, but kinda pissed at myself thinking i could go that heavy on deads and now my lower back friggin hurts. i hope this doesnt derail anything. i'm currently kickin some booty. love this stuff so far !!! beastdrol 4 life. gonna order 2 more bottles tonight just so i'm good to go for a long time. thinking next february, will be beastdrol into epistrong bridge for 6 weeks, all while stacking katanadrol the full 6 weeks. should have me lookin like Rambo !!!!
 
UnrealMachine said:
interesting saying there, I'd say heavy dumbell flys trump any kind of press when it comes to killing your chest though. I'm up to 80 pound dumbells, and my chest still gets so sore from it. Presses are good but they don't work chest through nearly as much of a range of motion. just my opinion, I do love db flys though ;) the problem with presses is they make you way more prone to injury (especially shoulder) and that's a really big problem with benching especially as you get stronger
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I'll agree with Unreal. Heavy ass fly's really trash the chest
 
ninja warrior said:
beastdrol 4 life. gonna order 2 more bottles tonight just so i'm good to go for a long time. thinking next february, will be beastdrol into epistrong bridge for 6 weeks, all while stacking katanadrol the full 6 weeks. should have me lookin like Rambo !!!!
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Thanks for the feedback buddy :)

Yeah it's always good to stock up! You never know when they're gonna bring down the hammer on us.

Beast/Epi bridge & Katana. WOOOOOO!
 
ahhh 3 bottles of the beast on the way. it's like freakin christmas. so the back is still hurtin so i took off yesterday and today. we'll see how i feel tomorrow. grrrrr. but the weight is at 220. wooo hooo !!!! started at 208 on the 13th. next week starts p-plex into the mix. my back better heal quick, so i can kick it's *ss.
 
so i got back in today, but the back still is pretty sore so i switched legs for chest. didnt go too heavy, but focused on flys. all in all it was kind of a weak workout but felt good to get back in there. also, with the flys not being a normal part, i definatly got a great pump, and feel depleted in the chest. my weight is at 221 today. yeaaah buddyyyy !!!!
 
so today i hit the legs for the first time since i hurt my back. so i did really light squats, and just went very slow on the way down.
squats
135 x 10
135 x 10
155 x 10
155 x 10
155 x 10

i forgot how much of a pump i get when i really go slow on the eccentric phase of a lift. more of like a hypertrophy specific tempo. even though these were really light, i took a full 5-7 second eccentric phase of each rep, and my legs were absolutly screamin. even more so than my heavier lifts. even as i get back to more weight, i may keep this in mind and focus on the negative part of the squat. it felt just great
leg ext.
7 x 20
7 x 20
7 x 18
7 x 16

leg press, supersetted with calf raises
15 x 12 reps, then 15 for calves
15 x 12, then 15 for calves
15 x 12, the 15 on calves

so this was a light day just to make sure the back was good to go. i had the pump of my life in the legs and could barely walk, but am really looking forward to getting back to heavier weight. today was the first day of the p-plex thrown into the mix, and is the last week for the beast still dosed at 20. i have to say, i'm looking much thicker, and people at work are talking. i'm steady at 220, but think i look leaner, so i'm debating on getting the bodyfat done on friday to get a mid cycle check on progress. it's pry a good idea, so i'll post my exact stats. tomorrows chest again, and i'm hoping to go heavy as long as the back stays good.
as of now, i'm thinking humans nailed it perfectly, on fire, the wheel, wd-40, duct tape, and beastdrol !!!!
 
today was chest again
i decided to go back to dumbells, and i'm glad i did. i'm gonna switch it up maybe every other week from now on.
incline dumbell press
70 x 15
70 x 12
70 x 10
70 x 10
incline dumbell fly
35 x 15
40 x 10
35 x 12
35 x 12 nice and slow and felt a great pump on all sets
dips
bodyweight x 15
bw x 10
bw x 9
bw x 8
overhead rope pressdown
45 x 15
45 x 12
45 x 12
cable flys
on the machine i started at 8, then just did dropsets untill i was at complete failure.
3 sets of this

i have to say, i think i'm really feeling the p-plex. my pump today was insane. maybe it's just mental being that it's only day 2, but with the sd at 20, and the p-plex at 20. i feel like an animal. my workout was done about an hour ago, and i'm still super pumped. like almost locked up. i'm thinking i'm gonna love the p-plex. anyone have any reviews of cel's p-plex? i havent really seen to much on it, but a lot of people tell me it's awesome. my weight is at 221 today, and i'm looking much different from the start of my cycle. i still have my first week pics, i need to upload to the web so i can post them, but i'm thinking you'll be able to see a noticeable difference after the full 6 weeks. i can't wait.
i have noticed the libido is definatly tanked. should i throw in some sustain alpha while on cycle? i see some guys do this, and am thinking it's for this exact reason. although i know for sure i'll get a huge boner once i open my box with 3 more bottles of the beast in the next few days. muuuuahahahaha !!!!!!
 
cel pplex is legit. i like phera as a 2nd to SD.

i just started my pplex yesterday too @ 30mg and the sd is @30mg too. i might havta cut the sd down to 20mg though. the lethargy today is pretty wicked...

dude you should pick up some hcgenerate and start running it asap @ 5 caps. you'll get that libido back forsure and it will make a way easier transition into pct buddy ;)
 
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