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P-Plex (Pheraplex) Cycle

dinasty

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Hi guys!
I will start a p-plex cycle!
Look:

DURING THE CYCLE:

P-Plex
Cycle Assist

PCT:
Finadex-6 or Novedex XT

What you think? Is it good?

It's my first cycle with a PH!
Help me!

Thanks a lot!
 
dinasty said:
Hi guys!
I will start a p-plex cycle!
Look:

DURING THE CYCLE:

P-Plex
Cycle Assist

PCT:
Finadex-6 or Novedex XT

What you think? Is it good?

It's my first cycle with a PH!
Help me!

Thanks a lot!
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That pct is not even close to what would be needed. A SERM really needs to be run here.
 
You will probably want to get some p-5-p, 1-Carboxy, and maybe caber for on cycle.
I used torem for PCT for P-Plex with great success. Get clomid or torem.
Read up on PCT the OTC stuff probably won't help the kind of shut down you will be facing.
 
manofbushido said:
You will probably want to get some p-5-p, 1-Carboxy, and maybe caber for on cycle.
I used torem for PCT for P-Plex with great success. Get clomid or torem.
Read up on PCT the OTC stuff probably won't help the kind of shut down you will be facing.
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Agreed.
 
you will recover with the novedex xt, but might be a slow depressing pct lol. P-plex is definitely one of the big guns, that I would much rather be safe then sorry with. At least run a lose dose serm, unless your going to put together a very extensive otc pct, which would be quite costly.
 
androchem said:
you will recover with the novedex xt, but might be a slow depressing pct lol. P-plex is definitely one of the big guns, that I would much rather be safe then sorry with. At least run a lose dose serm, unless your going to put together a very extensive otc pct, which would be quite costly.
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I have trouble understanding how an AI helps in PCT when DMT doesn't aromatize, but does shut you down.
So at the end of the cycle where is all this estro coming from that you need to lower? Seems like at the end of the cycle test and thus estro would be low. I have read about the progestin caused sides so you would want to guard against that.
You want to raise test/LH/FSH at the end of a cycle right.
That is the pathway you want to target not the long way by reducing already low/non-existent estro levels.

.... Don't know if any of this shakes out, just trying to think it through.
 
manofbushido said:
I have trouble understanding how an AI helps in PCT when DMT doesn't aromatize, but does shut you down.
So at the end of the cycle where is all this estro coming from that you need to lower? Seems like at the end of the cycle test and thus estro would be low. I have read about the progestin caused sides so you would want to guard against that.
You want to raise test/LH/FSH at the end of a cycle right.
That is the pathway you want to target not the long way by reducing already low/non-existent estro levels.

.... Don't know if any of this shakes out, just trying to think it through.
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In a way you are right, and the question of an AI being productive in a pct is a endless debate thats not worth arguing about, If you like them in pct use them, if not then don't use them. The only problem with what you said is, just because you are using a compound that doesn't aromatize, doesn't mean your estrogen or estradiol levels are low or non-existent. On top of that a compound like 6-oxo wouldn't necessarily damper estrogen post cycle, but keep it under control, while your testosterone spikes back to normal.
 
androchem said:
The only problem with what you said is, just because you are using a compound that doesn't aromatize, doesn't mean your estrogen or estradiol levels are low or non-existent.
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But these compounds shut down endogenous test production correct? Males make E & E2 from test so, if test is low so would the down stream products of such a precursor ie E & E2.

androchem said:
On top of that a compound like 6-oxo wouldn't necessarily damper estrogen post cycle, but keep it under control, while your testosterone spikes back to normal.
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What is the difference between dampening and "keep it under control"?
I thought the way AIs raised test was through the Homeostatic balance of test --> E, E2, & DHT?
So by lowering one of the products it sends the signal to your make more test?
It is you body wanting to stay at homeostatic equilibrium, by way of negative feedback.

Once again just trying to think it out.
 
manofbushido said:
But these compounds shut down endogenous test production correct? Males make E & E2 from test so, if test is low so would the down stream products of such a precursor ie E & E2.


What is the difference between dampening and "keep it under control"?
I thought the way AIs raised test was through the Homeostatic balance of test --> E, E2, & DHT?
So by lowering one of the products it sends the signal to your make more test?
It is you body wanting to stay at homeostatic equilibrium, by way of negative feedback.

Once again just trying to think it out.
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That is how they work, the point of using an AI during pct, is so when you try and maximize testosterone, estrogen does not follow. They are also used to keep rebounding estrogen from causing gyno. These designers do shut down endogenous test production, but that does not mean your body can't take the little testosterone that is left, and aromatize it at a high percentage into estrogen. So in many cases, estradiol is in fact elevated at the end of a cycle independent of the compound being able to aromatize or not. In this case a AI can be very beneficial to recovery. There are also cases when estradiol is greatly suppressed nearing the end of a cycle and an AI wouldn't do much except give dry joints, and further suppress immune function. So get blood work the last week of your cycle and see where you stand, and decide what compounds would benefit you the most.
 
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