Force of Green
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Indeed! haha. And a wormhole right to the muscles!
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R-Mac
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Impressive FOG....I love pslin and AP ...right now I am doing 3 AP, am with breakfast, pre-wo and 2nd meal post workout meal...I gots to get me some more pslin
what was your dosing method with 1 pslin and 3 AP... and what was it like with 2 pslin and 3 AP?
...also what's your poison for the dried fruit?
R-Mac
Board Supporter
x3 ....it's sick!
hardknock
Well-known member
It's kind of ironic that you would conveniently quote only the part that helps your points...lol BUt, tis all good man, you'll just have to follow the logs and see if it is what it is... I got my two bottles today, and I'll be waiting to see what the results are first, NOT FOR SIZE and STRENGTH, but for side effects.
Im seriously lost on this one though; why would a company set out to NOT make money? Any person on any of the 150 most popular fitness/bodybuilding/nutrition boards out there that are selling products would have to be a str8 damn fool to try and lose money while delivering good products ... wtf?
Australian made
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the point i was trying to make was these companies are not first and formost trying to supply a great product at a competitive price, its convincing customers to buy their overpriced products that they do not want or need. well thats pretty much the definition of marketing isn't it.
Do you see my point at all?
Curious to know why you bought two bottles of Prime if you didnt know what was in it or have any feedback on it?
hardknock
Well-known member
Ok, I've already stated that reason in another thread, and I do not know which thread it was....
Basically to make it short..
I had to buy NOW because Im getting married in a couple of weeks, plus closing on a house.
My fiance and I have agreed to cut back on anything outside of what's needed for the house and family (for right now) So, I had to purchase any supps which I may use NOW because if i did not then I would have no choice but to wait until February or somewhere in that area. I'd rather buy now and find that it works great and have it, than to wait and find out it works great and there's a back order for weeks.
EDIT: Also, if I find that no one is getting any benefits out of it, then o'well, the price of purchase was very minuscule to say the least.
Also, after I purchased it, I immediately begin doing research on the ingredients and have found some very interesting things concerning one of the ingredients (possibly great benefits); however, I have found nothing interesting on the other main ingredient(possibly absolutely bunk). Those links, post, are on bb,com in a thread where PRIME was/is being discussed concerning the science behind it.
Australian made
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understood.
Force of Green
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What's going on R-Mac?
With the 2 P-Slin and 3 AP I would do this:
1 P-Slin & 1 AP pre-breakfast
breakfast (35 minutes later)
70 grams carbs from granola
70 grams carbs from dried fruit
15 grams carbs from goats milk
30 grams Oryx Goat Whey
1 AP
lunch (pre-workout meal)
Brown rice farina cereal (hot) 100grams carbs
Some kinda meat or fish
Post-workout
1 P-Slin (I tried 2 P-Slin, but I didn't feel like eating that much carbs everyday) & 1 AP
150 carbs from dried fruit
60 grams Oryx Goat Whey
hardknock
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:head:
Thanks :thumbsup:
hardknock
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Could you get full off of that breakfast meal? Meaning, I've tried eating that amount of food, as not saying it's a small amount, but I'm so use to eating a large amount of food for breakfast because in the position that I am in, I sometimes do not get to eat again until 5hrs later...I've since started to pack a cooler full of food that will hold me over until lunch, then until pre-workout but it's usually bars, natural peanut butter sandwiches and the likes...
Force of Green
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I feel you on that... I get to the point where I am satisfied... I could eat more with that combo, for sure. I just kept it around that (some days I'd up the carbs by another 40) to maximize fatloss.
eatingisfun
Active member
They have stated they had the testers do blood tests and LH and test levels were unaffected by any significant amount. Now if this guy did something like GH I don't think their test would show that but I don't think they're out to try and fool you by intentionally posting a roid head and claiming the results are solely their products.
Let's face it, this guy in the pics knows what he's doing probably better than 99% of the people on this board. They specifically picked people that knew what they were doing and not just some buck 60 kid off the street.
eatingisfun
Active member
Just work it into the mortgage lol
Force of Green
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Congrats with all that Hardknock!
futurepilot
Well-known member
Your saying that USP did blood and Prime doesnt raise those levels? Or does that go for all their products?
eatingisfun
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Yes they stated on their writeup they tested test(total and free) and LH levels in the testers.
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warbird01
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well first of all he is not even doing the same pose. I mean i think he could make that transformation without supps, just look like he lost 5-10 lbs of fat...
eatingisfun
Active member
You also don't know what kind of support this guy has behind the scenes. If he competes he might have a professional dietician backing him on his diet and possibly working with a pro trainer etc. Many of the pros that compete do this and they get big results when their diets are dialed in exactly where they should be.
warbird01
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Or they could be educated in the way of diets and training. I would never hire a "professional" trainer. Maybe Layne or something for contest prep just cause i dont trust myself with judging myself and where I am at but personally I know my body best.
Force of Green
Well-known member
I see a lot of people who could use a trainer
lol. A lot of people who bash a product have logs with the most ridiculously illogical workouts. But hey, to each his/her own.futurepilot
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"In just 90 days on The Asteroid Stack, Mark went from a soft 192 lbs at 17% body fat to weighing a rock hard 207 lbs at a thin-skinned 7% bodyfatThats a gain of 33.15 lbs of muscle while losing 18.15 lbs of fat!. In the process his bench press went from 365 to 435 for reps!"
I found where they wrote that, Its for their in house test run of Prime, im still looking for an answer about the guy in my first post.
Frank Reynolds
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Unless i am missing something.. It says it tested the people in their "pilot study" not the people "reviewing"
As for that dudes gains, they are ridiculous..
The guy is definitely advanced, and there is no way in hell, someone at his level is making those sorts of gains, without some "help"
Force of Green
Well-known member
I would see a lot of benefit of using P-Slin, AP, Recreate, etc. with gear, but as for Prime I think it'd be something I'd rather be using off of gear.... ya know?
eatingisfun
Active member
Yes, I guess you're right about what they were talking about.
However, I came across this link which is interesting, especially this part:
"In just 30 days test subjects gained close to 7 pounds of lean mass and increased their strength by up to 30%. And these stunning results were achieved by very experienced lifters with past steroid use."
Although I'm a little confused since this link is talking about Prime but the ingredients do not include yam AFAIK.
This link is still talking about steroidal glycosides from yams as does Prime's tribulus aquaticus.
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Australian made
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lol wow just happens to been written by the guy that owns USP.
Flyboy
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Australian made
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sometimes i pretend im retarded.
djbombsquad
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Him and some other people that were sponsored got fired for telling the truth.
djbombsquad
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My buddy is on week 2 and is at 3 caps 3x a day and he has not seen any thing close to what the manual speaks of as far as the week by week game plain. Does not mean the product works or does not work but there is no way to know endless we did some sort of blood work for a after to see if any thing was elevated.
djbombsquad
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Well I want to know what the guy in the picture did so I can be as huge as him. If it was roids which ones if it was peptides or gh or slin how much. If it was just prime ap and powerfull how did he dosage it. What work out did he do. I have 5 bottles of prime my buddy is testing out for me till I finish my cycle of crea-02 but soon as I am done I will be jumping in on prime with my buddy.
Force of Green
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By week 3 he will feel the urge to flex his muscles.
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
I am unaware whether he was a reviewer, or a participate in the pilot study. That being said, I will find out and report.
Sorry for not attending this thread, I had more pressing matters (not being pretentious, I was at a funeral).
Sorry for not attending this thread, I had more pressing matters (not being pretentious, I was at a funeral).
futurepilot
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Sorry to hear that. I guess it said he was a reviewer? Whenever you get a chance to find out what the deal is, that would be great.
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
No problem; I am quite busy catching up, but if I forget this thread simply e-mail me.
Aeternitatis
Registered User
right... what he achieved is easily attainable without supps. Looks like he lost a couple percentage points of bodyfat which a highly trained individual can usually do quite easily.
Not that I'm talkin **** about USP (wouldn't want the fanboys coming after me), I just have a natural distrust for before/after pics, especially ones with such douchey looking characters in them.
futurepilot
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R-Mac
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thanks FOG I appreciate your response! :thumbsup:
Force of Green
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Yeah, no problem!
R-Mac
Board Supporter
loved cialabol...which USP still had it in their line
flu1d
Member
I saw a thread here on AM perhaps a year ago, where a 'normal' member of the board did his own fantastical 'before' and 'after' shots. He cut for about a month IIRC, and I think he was oriental looking, and the difference was amazing. But he told us how he did it. In the 'before' pictures he wasn't flexed, wasn't holding anything in, and was 'dry'. In the 'after' pictures he was flexing, holding everything in and was pumped. In the example futurepilot has given, it is clear that this tester has done the same thing.
I don't mean this as a dig at anyone, especially not USPLabs or futurepilot, but USPLabs have grown exponentially and look to become a 'mainstream' supplement along the likes of Muscletech. Whilst the marketing is a load of hyperbole, that is how USPLabs must market their products if they're to keep up with their competitors, who arn't the smaller companies on AM (no offense) but the bigger world wide corporations. Whilst to people like us who trawl through internet forums and scrutinize everything we see, criticize everything we don't fully understand and and approach each supplement after hours of careful and cautious research, USPLabs marketing will seem patronizing and over the top. But to the people that the marketing is actually intended for, the Joe Bloggs who wanders into Walmart and sees a tub of pills on a shelf and decides he wants to be buff, USPLabs needs that eye grabbing and shockingly fantastical marketing to pull Joe Bloggs in and help him part the cash from his wallet.
Your question is entirely valid futurepilot, but we both know a satisfactory answer won't be forthcoming. As somebody else mentioned in this thread, USPLabs marketing should be ignored and the logs and journals and reviews should be looked at.
I don't mean this as a dig at anyone, especially not USPLabs or futurepilot, but USPLabs have grown exponentially and look to become a 'mainstream' supplement along the likes of Muscletech. Whilst the marketing is a load of hyperbole, that is how USPLabs must market their products if they're to keep up with their competitors, who arn't the smaller companies on AM (no offense) but the bigger world wide corporations. Whilst to people like us who trawl through internet forums and scrutinize everything we see, criticize everything we don't fully understand and and approach each supplement after hours of careful and cautious research, USPLabs marketing will seem patronizing and over the top. But to the people that the marketing is actually intended for, the Joe Bloggs who wanders into Walmart and sees a tub of pills on a shelf and decides he wants to be buff, USPLabs needs that eye grabbing and shockingly fantastical marketing to pull Joe Bloggs in and help him part the cash from his wallet.
Your question is entirely valid futurepilot, but we both know a satisfactory answer won't be forthcoming. As somebody else mentioned in this thread, USPLabs marketing should be ignored and the logs and journals and reviews should be looked at.
Force of Green
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Good call.
djbombsquad
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My buddy finished 3 bottles and saw not to much of a difference and no flexing. I will start mine soon as pslin comes in.
Force of Green
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If he's anything like you, he didn't use the product correctly.
djbombsquad
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Are you an idiot?