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Old 12-05-2006, 07:56 PM   #181
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We all know that Aminos are one of many gateways to better muscle development. Finding a way to get your body to assimilate them in a manner to bring on even more mass sounds great to me. Let's see the company put it's money where our muscles are and see if their claims really can come true..........
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For folks using a CKD would AP be too strong to use during the first 24 hrs to help induce Ketosis? Would taking AP without carbs induce too much of a hypoglycemic reaction? It would be a fantastic tool during the re-feed but could it be used to help rid the circulating glucose and speed up the ketogenic process without dangerously lowering blood sugar?
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For folks using a CKD would AP be too strong to use during the first 24 hrs to help induce Ketosis? Would taking AP without carbs induce too much of a hypoglycemic reaction? It would be a fantastic tool during the re-feed but could it be used to help rid the circulating glucose and speed up the ketogenic process without dangerously lowering blood sugar?

AP does not cause insulin secretion so carbs need to be present for insulin to be present. Will it force Ketosis...possibly but if you are versed in Ketosis and like to experiement. I do not see danger of hypoglycemic shock.
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AP does not cause insulin secretion so carbs need to be present for insulin to be present. Will it force Ketosis...possibly but if you are versed in Ketosis and like to experiement. I do not see danger of hypoglycemic shock.

So, since there is no effect on insulin secretion we can assume that the glucose lowering in serum is also insulin independent? So no point in supplementing with insulin or insulin-mimetic drugs? Then again the logs and write-up seem to indicate Anabolic Pump increased glucose-stimulated insulin secretion though.

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So, since there is no effect on insulin secretion we can assume that the glucose lowering in serum is also insulin independent? So no point in supplementing with insulin or insulin-mimetic drugs?

Less insulin will be needed to produce the same result or even enhance glucose disposal with less insulin secretion.
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AP phellodendron extract?

Gee....just now catching up on this thread from yesterday....umm...two days ago now...and it is already 7 pages. Man, it is 1:46 a.m. and way past a decent bedtime. That's what happens when I get on AM at night and try to do some catching up.

Sure would like to already have that free sample of AP for tomorrow's workout....I think I am going to need it.

I have a question about the AP ingredient. Is this basically the same extract as the trademarked Nexrutine, made by Next Pharmaceuticals, or is this something entirely different, from the same plant, phellodendron? Below is a brief write-up for Nexrutine. It seems to be promoted mainly for joint health. So maybe that might be another benefit of using AP. Also for muscle recovery.

"A revolutionary herbal extract that supports joint flexibility and healthy muscle recovery after exercise, Nexrutine combines traditional botanical wisdom with the latest in nutritional science. Derived from the phellodendron tree, a plant used for centuries by traditional Chinese herbalists, Nexrutine works with the body's natural enzymatic processes to promote comfortable movement without upsetting the stomach."

OK...now I am going to bed! Hope I don't have insomnia.
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Question: I'm not sure if it has already been answered,..

But it is recomended that AP be taken 15min before meals..
But what about taking it AFTER meals (like 30min)

In MY head (and it's a scary, scary place by the way) it would make more sense to consume a large post workout meal (or dinner, high carb) and give your body a chance to digest some of what you have eatn and put those nutrients in your blood, letting it saturate and THEN take something like AP. This will ensure that from the beginning the product takes effect, you have maximum amount of nutrients t obe shuttled into your muscles.
Plus you have your natural insulin production floating around as well.
If AP makes your body NEED TO USE LESS to ge tthe same effect, what if one waited for the bodies own insulin to become released before hand and have the AP cause a greater effect becase if less insulin is needed to have the same effect, imagin what it would do if you had the same amount of insulin and that amount was put to use with increased sinsitivity.....
This would SEEM to me to be a great protocol after Leg or back days... (if not a daily approach for post workout and my high dose BCAA's)

**Anyways, so question being, does any type of food hinder the absorbtion like protein is said to with P'full ?
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Question: I'm not sure if it has already been answered,..

But it is recomended that AP be taken 15min before meals..
But what about taking it AFTER meals (like 30min)

In MY head (and it's a scary, scary place by the way) it would make more sense to consume a large post workout meal (or dinner, high carb) and give your body a chance to digest some of what you have eatn and put those nutrients in your blood, letting it saturate and THEN take something like AP. This will ensure that from the beginning the product takes effect, you have maximum amount of nutrients t obe shuttled into your muscles.
Plus you have your natural insulin production floating around as well.
If AP makes your body NEED TO USE LESS to ge tthe same effect, what if one waited for the bodies own insulin to become released before hand and have the AP cause a greater effect becase if less insulin is needed to have the same effect, imagin what it would do if you had the same amount of insulin and that amount was put to use with increased sinsitivity.....
This would SEEM to me to be a great protocol after Leg or back days... (if not a daily approach for post workout and my high dose BCAA's)

**Anyways, so question being, does any type of food hinder the absorbtion like protein is said to with P'full ?
Thing is if you do cause an insulin spike with a high GI/GL meal and let it take the time to digest before you take Anabolic-Pump you risk not blocking fat storage, even if you had taken a dose earlier in the day you still won't block storage as well as if you had taken Anabolic-Pump pre-meal.

I personally don't feel it's worth it but if you feel like trying it then by all means...
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Thing is if you do cause an insulin spike with a high GI/GL meal and let it take the time to digest before you take Anabolic-Pump you risk not blocking fat storage, even if you had taken a dose earlier in the day you still won't block storage as well as if you had taken Anabolic-Pump pre-meal.

I personally don't feel it's worth it but if you feel like trying it then by all means...

I ma talking about 30min after eating...
I don't think that post workout, eating a large meal ,that there will be any signifficiant fat storrage. You would be in a defficiate anyways....
As for if it's worth it, wouldn't you think that an AP with increased natty insulin would be better then AP w/o increased natty insulin??
Now, in my mind, maybe the 30min in dosing wouldn't casue a signifficant, but that might all depend on how long a dose of AP has an effect. ( <---lol- additional question)

BUt I guess that depends on if food (or certin types of food) hinder absorbtion..

1) Does food, or certin types of food hinder absorbtion?
2) How long does a dose of AP create it's effect?



Oh- and of course I'd be happy to test this dose methode
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1) No specific foods (I imagine you are thinking lipids, oils?) hinder absorption of AP either at the gastric uptake or cellular level.

2) From the study we garner about 6 hours, however, that 6 hours is with a downward efficacy trend with the strongest effects being exerted 15-30 minutes after the initial dose. Which is the reason for the suggested dosing. If one doses it before their carbohydrate meal, the subsequent blood sugar rise and insulin influx is maximized by AP's ability to selectively place the ensuing glycogen into muscle cells, and prevent that same process in adipocytes. However, AP's effectiveness is diminshed if it is dosed while that process has already occured, or is in the midst of occurring.
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Gee....just now catching up on this thread from yesterday....umm...two days ago now...and it is already 7 pages. Man, it is 1:46 a.m. and way past a decent bedtime. That's what happens when I get on AM at night and try to do some catching up.

Sure would like to already have that free sample of AP for tomorrow's workout....I think I am going to need it.

I have a question about the AP ingredient. Is this basically the same extract as the trademarked Nexrutine, made by Next Pharmaceuticals, or is this something entirely different, from the same plant, phellodendron? Below is a brief write-up for Nexrutine. It seems to be promoted mainly for joint health. So maybe that might be another benefit of using AP. Also for muscle recovery.

"A revolutionary herbal extract that supports joint flexibility and healthy muscle recovery after exercise, Nexrutine combines traditional botanical wisdom with the latest in nutritional science. Derived from the phellodendron tree, a plant used for centuries by traditional Chinese herbalists, Nexrutine works with the body's natural enzymatic processes to promote comfortable movement without upsetting the stomach."

OK...now I am going to bed! Hope I don't have insomnia.

Nope, but it is funny you bring this up because Jacob was completely unaware it had anti-inflammatory properties until a few testers began to claim their aching joints were feeling better. We are actually trademarking our extract as well.
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1) No specific foods (I imagine you are thinking lipids, oils?) hinder absorption of AP either at the gastric uptake or cellular level.

2) From the study we garner about 6 hours, however, that 6 hours is with a downward efficacy trend with the strongest effects being exerted 15-30 minutes after the initial dose. Which is the reason for the suggested dosing. If one doses it before their carbohydrate meal, the subsequent blood sugar rise and insulin influx is maximized by AP's ability to selectively place the ensuing glycogen into muscle cells, and prevent that same process in adipocytes. However, AP's effectiveness is diminshed if it is dosed while that process has already occured, or is in the midst of occurring.

Not be a bother,...
but putting AP's ability to prevent glycogen from entering adipocytes ASIDE and thinking of only maxamizing the anabolic capabilities (I know this is almost one in the same..) but would the before meals dosing still provide maximum anabolic results?, seeing as you'll only have absorbed the simpleist of sugars at the time when AP is at it's best?

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I'd stick with pre-meal dosing as if your dosing 30 minutes after a meal you would go hypo and need to eat again. Dosing before meals will help to drive all those muscle building nutrients into your muscles and help repair the damage you've caused by lifting, the end result would be bigger, stronger muscles. Dosing after a meal like i said above would make you go hypo as the AP requires carbs. Just stick with our recommended dosing you won't be disappointed .
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how about why does it give you nosebleeds??
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It doesn't give you nose bleeds, i've never experienced this and no one has reported that.
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I'd stick with pre-meal dosing as if your dosing 30 minutes after a meal you would go hypo and need to eat again. Dosing before meals will help to drive all those muscle building nutrients into your muscles and help repair the damage you've caused by lifting, the end result would be bigger, stronger muscles. Dosing after a meal like i said above would make you go hypo as the AP requires carbs. Just stick with our recommended dosing you won't be disappointed .


lol- I think in my case, that may be exactly the result I need.
I go to sleep 3 hours after lifting. As it is right now, I can only rat-pack but so much food before I go to bed.

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how about why does it give you nosebleeds??

Chronic alcohol consumption on a product such as this is not the wisest of decisions. I think we have covered this with you previously.
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how about why does it give you nosebleeds??

Getjacked, there are countless logs of people using this supplement, and me and 5 other people I work with are using it for a fit contest and noone else has had this problem, see a doctor man! Also are you taking anything with Synephrine in it I know a few people who got nose bleeds while taking a high amount of that supp.
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how about why does it give you nosebleeds??


The nosebleed is a result of trying to steal my AP. I got you with the Tiger Uppercut. Taught to me by none other than Sagat himself.
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If anyone tried to take my AP, there would be more than just noses bleeding.
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