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**Rivet** · 12-05-2006, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ziricote

60g is a ballpark MINIMUM requirement, it'll be good for more than that.

Ive gone WAY WAY over this on one cap of of the beta version Yellow Gold.

Cool · 12-05-2006, 06:35 AM

I usually go for 80-100 post work out and I'm trying to recomp. I'll be interested to run this on a bulk. I tend to gain weight/muscle pretty easily but, have a real hard time losing BF. It's usually one or the other I guess.

**USPLabs** · 12-05-2006, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Enigma76

I'll take a stab at these.

1. If AP works as stated, saying that it prevents glucose uptake in adipocytes and promotes uptake in muscle cells, then ALA-based products would be counterproductive as ALA-based products are nonspecific insulin-mimickers.

2. I was wondering this exact same thing, and I was doing a combo of AP/ciala/omega Burn3d for a week or so. Then I got a weird sickness (which I'm still not over) and stopped the burn3d.

I've taken burn3d and TTA based products for a long time, on and off. They never once made me sick. I just stopped its usage because thinking more about it, no matter how much water I would drink, I would still develop kidney pains at high doses and be dehydrated; I would go to bed with my lips burning and my mouth parched, even though I just drank easily a gallon plus of agua. This used to happen to me when I used Burn3d solo, never when I used it in combo with AP/Ciala

I feel that with the necessity of a high water intake with AP, combining it with something like TTA, which has an unknown but definite effect on water retention and distribution (possible electrolyte imbalances, etc) could be detrimental.

No one really knows for sure though, as TTA's effect on electrolyte concentrations intra/extracellularly is unknown, and AP's method of action is also unknown.

My question: If AP does not act through AMPK, which could easily explain preferential absorption of glucose in muscle over fat, what pathway does it act through? I am unfamiliar with any other pathway which would provide similar effects.

Mechanims will be revealed in our complete write up. I'm doing a little consulting with a Pharm D.

**shatfield** · 12-05-2006, 09:23 AM

After you stop taking it, is there any risk of a change to your body's natural insulin response?

**Mulletsoldier** · 12-05-2006, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by shatfield

After you stop taking it, is there any risk of a change to your body's natural insulin response?

Negative.

**rampage jackson** · 12-05-2006, 10:13 AM

1. This stuff wouldn't force feed anything other than muscles right....no other "organ" growth?

bludevil · 12-05-2006, 10:30 AM

Was any blood work done by testers to back up the claims, especially "Improved lipid profile"? If so, can these be posted.

Joint Fracture · 12-05-2006, 10:44 AM

Well, I'm probably beating a dead horse in hoping to get a free bottle with so many people ahead of me, but what the hey, here goes.

Post work-out I take my 80cc of waxy maize starch mixed with 3 grams CEE and a small amount of whey. It absorbs so quickly that I get the famous "pseudo hypo" feeling. Presumably the maize is a complex carb, so would taking the AP with it magnify the hypo feeling, or would this still be safe?

TheMyth · 12-05-2006, 10:50 AM

So can you basically eat crappy carbs and still get leaner and more defined since fat cells won't be asorbing the carbs? The only side I hear from eating crappy carbs is lethargy.

**bioman** · 12-05-2006, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by USPLabs

****, I need to correct the write up to incude the Tannis complex. That being said, The Original Formula of P-insulin does have the same quality. I have 2 compounds in this formula that have the same mechanism. I can easliy release 2 different products but decided to make ONE unbelievable formula!

The industry will scream Blasphemy but results have been proven on this board. Users are increasing there Carb intake and gaining muscle and losing fat.

Quite true. I am eating more carbs than I would on a bulk and I am still slowly leaning out...and I haven't even had any time to do any cardio. The overall anti-inflammatory aspect is also pretty sweet.

Jacob done gone and mixed hisself up a winner!

**bioman** · 12-05-2006, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMyth

So can you basically eat crappy carbs and still get leaner and more defined since fat cells won't be asorbing the carbs? The only side I hear from eating crappy carbs is lethargy.

Notsomuch lethargy as just getting really sleepy for about 20 minutes..then it tends to go away for me.

bigstabile · 12-05-2006, 11:36 AM

Have any sides been reported? Obviously there have been people who've felt hypo because they haven't taken enough carbs, but has anything else been reported? headaches, muscle soreness, lethargy stuff like that?

haiz69 · 12-05-2006, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bigstabile

Have any sides been reported? Obviously there have been people who've felt hypo because they haven't taken enough carbs, but has anything else been reported? headaches, muscle soreness, lethargy stuff like that?

Headaches - YES - Drink enough water however and they seem to go away.

Body Heat - I am warm all of the time.

Lethargy - I find that when I take AP with a large amount of High GI Carbs, that I get tired for a little while.

Muscle Soreness - I would say AP has actually helped here.

Joints - This is a side I wasn't expecting = NO JOINT PAIN!! I had some before, but I haven't noticed any since starting AP. Mainly with squatting and benching: so shoulders and knees.

protomike · 12-05-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bioman

Notsomuch lethargy as just getting really sleepy for about 20 minutes..then it tends to go away for me.

hehe, my first week on yg had many naps right around dinner time... that was buggin me for a while till i figured out that i needed low gi carbs.

**CHAPS** · 12-05-2006, 11:43 AM

"1. This stuff wouldn't force feed anything other than muscles right....no other "organ" growth?"

That brings me to another positive side effect of AP, increased penile girth! lmao To answer your question no, only muscles.

**CHAPS** · 12-05-2006, 11:43 AM

"Chaps,

You got an email I can catch you at?"

slip3147@hotmail.com

**rampage jackson** · 12-05-2006, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHAPS

"1. This stuff wouldn't force feed anything other than muscles right....no other "organ" growth?"

That brings me to another positive side effect of AP, increased penile girth! lmao To answer your question no, only muscles.

LOL...should use Cissus for my "bones"

**Mulletsoldier** · 12-05-2006, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bludevil

Was any blood work done by testers to back up the claims, especially "Improved lipid profile"? If so, can these be posted.

No blood work by the beta testers, but the finished write up will include links to the 6-month study done on Diabetics, including lipid profile results.

babyblu · 12-05-2006, 12:44 PM

With the slight effect of mild hypo produced by igf1-lr3, how would this interact w/AP? Sounds like a great product btw. Just got my first bottles of Powerfull and Camph and cant wait to try!!!!

**CHAPS** · 12-05-2006, 01:28 PM

You guys want insane pumps? Today i did 3 Cialabol with 1 AP in my pre-workout meal then took 2 scoops of ALRI's Primed before my workout, JESUS! lol I'm still pumped like 30 minutes later, i think i found my favourite combo

protomike · 12-05-2006, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHAPS

You guys want insane pumps? Today i did 3 Cialabol with 1 AP in my pre-workout meal then took 2 scoops of ALRI's Primed before my workout, JESUS! lol I'm still pumped like 30 minutes later, i think i found my favourite combo

haven't used primed... but 3 cialabol + 1/4tsp of yg/ap + cee/taurine/gms + powerfull + cissus = one hell of a pump!

**Mulletsoldier** · 12-05-2006, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by protomike

haven't used primed... but 3 cialabol + 1/4tsp of yg/ap + cee/taurine/gms + powerfull + cissus = one hell of a pump!

Say it again!!

*Mullet raises hand in the air*

**WhatsaRoid?** · 12-05-2006, 02:26 PM

I cant wait to add this with my chaos

Enigma76 · 12-05-2006, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHAPS

"1. This stuff wouldn't force feed anything other than muscles right....no other "organ" growth?"

That brings me to another positive side effect of AP, increased penile girth! lmao To answer your question no, only muscles.

How does it differentiate between smooth and striated muscle? Smooth muscle is an integral part of some organs...Cardiac muscle is also another type of muscle, which could be effected by hyper-glycogen retention.

ugab37 · 12-05-2006, 03:57 PM

I just want to make the same statement that I made in my log for YG/AP. This supplement is, by far, the best product I have ever used. Im very carbsensitive and I went up to like 300 carbs a day. I lost in my waist and gained everywhere else. THATS SEVEN POUNDS GAINED WHILE MY WAIST WAS SHRINKING! Honestly, I even cheated a good bit more than normal as well. If you want leanbulk or recomp, this is all you need.

**Rivet** · 12-05-2006, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ugab37

Im very carbsensitive and I went up to like 300 carbs a day. I lost in my waist and gained everywhere else. THATS SEVEN POUNDS GAINED WHILE MY WAIST WAS SHRINKING!

These Dorritos are tasty...

**mmowry** · 12-05-2006, 04:34 PM

Ok by the sounds of this the almost too good to be true is here.This thread has covered more ground and answered more questions than I can count.Im a very skeptical person by nature and I must say Im in the "WANNA GIVE THIS A TRY" camp.
Im so carb sensitive its crazy and this seems to be the answer.The only question I have left is when will we know if weve contributed enough to qualify for a ticket on the MUSCLE MASS : FAT BLAST train?

TheMyth · 12-05-2006, 05:04 PM

That's what I'm talking about. I want to give this stuff a try for sure. Hopefully much of us will get to sample this new stuff!

haiz69 · 12-05-2006, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mmowry

Ok by the sounds of this the almost too good to be true is here.This thread has covered more ground and answered more questions than I can count.Im a very skeptical person by nature and I must say Im in the "WANNA GIVE THIS A TRY" camp.
Im so carb sensitive its crazy and this seems to be the answer.The only question I have left is when will we know if weve contributed enough to qualify for a ticket on the MUSCLE MASS : FAT BLAST train?

I am a skeptical college kid - this stuff works. I'm convinced!

**CHAPS** · 12-05-2006, 07:40 PM

"The only question I have left is when will we know if weve contributed enough to qualify for a ticket on the MUSCLE MASS : FAT BLAST train?"

Mullet will deliver a golden ticket to the winners all the while dressed in drag

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babyblu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 30 Points: 21.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 21.00 Donate Reputation: points: 10 / Rep Power: 4	AP & igf With the slight effect of mild hypo produced by igf1-lr3, how would this interact w/AP? Sounds like a great product btw. Just got my first bottles of Powerfull and Camph and cant wait to try!!!!

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mmowry Board Supporter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: PA Age: 35 Posts: 502 Points: 482.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 482.00 Donate Reputation: points: 54207 / Rep Power: 2227	Ok by the sounds of this the almost too good to be true is here.This thread has covered more ground and answered more questions than I can count.Im a very skeptical person by nature and I must say Im in the "WANNA GIVE THIS A TRY" camp. Im so carb sensitive its crazy and this seems to be the answer.The only question I have left is when will we know if weve contributed enough to qualify for a ticket on the MUSCLE MASS : FAT BLAST train? __________________ "Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;in all your ways acknowledge HIM,and HE will make your paths straight." Prov 3:5-6

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12-05-2006, 06:35 AM	#152
Cool Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 28 Posts: 165 Points: 146.50 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 146.50 Donate Reputation: points: 5587 / Rep Power: 251	I usually go for 80-100 post work out and I'm trying to recomp. I'll be interested to run this on a bulk. I tend to gain weight/muscle pretty easily but, have a real hard time losing BF. It's usually one or the other I guess.

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shatfield Board Supporter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Age: 28 Posts: 39 Points: 3.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 3.00 Donate Reputation: points: 151 / Rep Power: 27	After you stop taking it, is there any risk of a change to your body's natural insulin response?

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bludevil Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Age: 33 Posts: 92 Points: 79.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 79.00 Donate Reputation: points: 3561 / Rep Power: 173	Was any blood work done by testers to back up the claims, especially "Improved lipid profile"? If so, can these be posted.

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Joint Fracture Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 13 Points: 13.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 13.00 Donate Reputation: points: 10 / Rep Power: 0	Well, I'm probably beating a dead horse in hoping to get a free bottle with so many people ahead of me, but what the hey, here goes. Post work-out I take my 80cc of waxy maize starch mixed with 3 grams CEE and a small amount of whey. It absorbs so quickly that I get the famous "pseudo hypo" feeling. Presumably the maize is a complex carb, so would taking the AP with it magnify the hypo feeling, or would this still be safe?

12-05-2006, 10:50 AM	#159
TheMyth Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 30 Posts: 437 Points: 266.50 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 266.50 Donate Reputation: points: 14122 / Rep Power: 622	So can you basically eat crappy carbs and still get leaner and more defined since fat cells won't be asorbing the carbs? The only side I hear from eating crappy carbs is lethargy.

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bigstabile Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 26 Posts: 159 Points: 169.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 169.00 Donate Reputation: points: 8653 / Rep Power: 369	Have any sides been reported? Obviously there have been people who've felt hypo because they haven't taken enough carbs, but has anything else been reported? headaches, muscle soreness, lethargy stuff like that?

12-05-2006, 11:43 AM	#165
CHAPS USP LABS REP Board Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 23 Posts: 2,856 Points: 396.50 Bank: 966.00 Total Points: 1,362.50 Donate Reputation: points: 76896 / Rep Power: 3231	"1. This stuff wouldn't force feed anything other than muscles right....no other "organ" growth?" That brings me to another positive side effect of AP, increased penile girth! lmao To answer your question no, only muscles.

12-05-2006, 11:43 AM	#166
CHAPS USP LABS REP Board Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 23 Posts: 2,856 Points: 396.50 Bank: 966.00 Total Points: 1,362.50 Donate Reputation: points: 76896 / Rep Power: 3231	"Chaps, You got an email I can catch you at?" slip3147@hotmail.com

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CHAPS USP LABS REP Board Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 23 Posts: 2,856 Points: 396.50 Bank: 966.00 Total Points: 1,362.50 Donate Reputation: points: 76896 / Rep Power: 3231	You guys want insane pumps? Today i did 3 Cialabol with 1 AP in my pre-workout meal then took 2 scoops of ALRI's Primed before my workout, JESUS! lol I'm still pumped like 30 minutes later, i think i found my favourite combo

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WhatsaRoid? Alpha Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Gym Of God's Age: 21 Posts: 454 Points: 325.25 Bank: 90.55 Total Points: 415.80 Donate Reputation: points: 27387 / Rep Power: 1126	I cant wait to add this with my chaos

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ugab37 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 356 Points: 236.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 236.00 Donate Reputation: points: 3167 / Rep Power: 155	I just want to make the same statement that I made in my log for YG/AP. This supplement is, by far, the best product I have ever used. Im very carbsensitive and I went up to like 300 carbs a day. I lost in my waist and gained everywhere else. THATS SEVEN POUNDS GAINED WHILE MY WAIST WAS SHRINKING! Honestly, I even cheated a good bit more than normal as well. If you want leanbulk or recomp, this is all you need.

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TheMyth Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 30 Posts: 437 Points: 266.50 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 266.50 Donate Reputation: points: 14122 / Rep Power: 622	That's what I'm talking about. I want to give this stuff a try for sure. Hopefully much of us will get to sample this new stuff!

12-05-2006, 07:40 PM	#180
CHAPS USP LABS REP Board Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 23 Posts: 2,856 Points: 396.50 Bank: 966.00 Total Points: 1,362.50 Donate Reputation: points: 76896 / Rep Power: 3231	"The only question I have left is when will we know if weve contributed enough to qualify for a ticket on the MUSCLE MASS : FAT BLAST train?" Mullet will deliver a golden ticket to the winners all the while dressed in drag

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