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**CHAPS** · 12-04-2006, 03:57 PM

"Would stacking AP with melting point and clen be about as potent a fatburning stack as anything else out there?"

I've never used Melting point myself but i'm currently using AP+Clen and LOVING it. I'm finding i'm not getting the normal nasty clen sides either such as cramps and headaches, maybe because the AP is keeping my muscles full of aminos. I wanna try AP+Clen+T4, which is coming soon

. Yohimbine HCL would be excellent to use along with AP for cutting as it's effects are really dependant on keeping blood sugar levels stable and as AP will do that i can see it being a very nice stack for shaving off those love handles.

TheMyth · 12-04-2006, 04:04 PM

Very true about the Yohimbine, didn't think about that.

**CHAPS** · 12-04-2006, 04:09 PM

Yohimbine also increases the half-life of clen

, just some stacking options to think about. Oh and opt for the clen+ketotifen it's the bomb!

goldlifter · 12-04-2006, 04:24 PM

are there any downregulation of its effects with continuous use? i have used the bulk powder from a retailer and have been very pleased so far

**mmowry** · 12-04-2006, 04:25 PM

1) Would this be beneficial if one has a high estro level ?Concluding that if fat cells are shut down would this also lower the aromatase enzyme since in theory adipose tissue is being starved of fuel.

2) Since AnabolicPump shuttles nutrients into muscle,then this should make Every Thing thats ingested several times more effective thusly aiding anabolism.Due to the fact that all nutrients are used in muscle tissue quickly.So no more passes thruogh the liver and while taking in low GI carbs they are used as the preferential fuel source so no protein break down.Correct

TheMyth · 12-04-2006, 04:29 PM

You should make a new product with Powerfull and AP in it. You can call it "Powerfull Pump", the new PP(old PP being Pheraplex).

**CHAPS** · 12-04-2006, 04:42 PM

"are there any downregulation of its effects with continuous use? i have used the bulk powder from a retailer and have been very pleased so far"

Jacob has been using it for over 3 months now i believe and a couple other members have been using it for a couple weeks now with no loss of effects.

**CHAPS** · 12-04-2006, 04:45 PM

"1) Would this be beneficial if one has a high estro level ?Concluding that if fat cells are shut down would this also lower the aromatase enzyme since in theory adipose tissue is being starved of fuel.

2) Since AnabolicPump shuttles nutrients into muscle,then this should make Every Thing thats ingested several times more effective thusly aiding anabolism.Due to the fact that all nutrients are used in muscle tissue quickly.So no more passes thruogh the liver and while taking in low GI carbs they are used as the preferential fuel source so no protein break down.Correct"

1. Yes, and as AP will help to reduce bodyfat it will also help reduce estrogen levels as bodyfat is breeding grounds for estrogen.

2. Yup!

**mmowry** · 12-04-2006, 04:50 PM

Those were my expected answers Thanks!

**Rivet** · 12-04-2006, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHAPS

"are there any downregulation of its effects with continuous use? i have used the bulk powder from a retailer and have been very pleased so far"

Jacob has been using it for over 3 months now i believe and a couple other members have been using it for a couple weeks now with no loss of effects.

2 months here!

**HairyLarry35** · 12-04-2006, 05:41 PM

What about GI "issues?" In other words, how regular will this AP make you?

I'm looking forward to running a clen+lipoUltra/cap+t3 log with my staples (AP will be one of them, for sure). AP's ability to block triglyceride uptake in adipocytes and shuttle nutrients into muscle will be a godsend. While the other portions of my stack shall be freeing fatty acids and raising thermic temp.

Oh, and a healthy 40/40/20 diet with plenty of exercise will be included too

HL

Scottyo · 12-04-2006, 05:53 PM

Q. Is anabolic pump safe or beneficial for individuals with thyroid or adrenal issues?

Q. Is anabolic pump beneficial for low carb or timed carb diets such as UD2.0, CKD, TKD etc.

Q. When you going to let me try some

**USPLabs** · 12-04-2006, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottyo

Q. Is anabolic pump safe or beneficial for individuals with thyroid or adrenal issues?

Q. Is anabolic pump beneficial for low carb or timed carb diets such as UD2.0, CKD, TKD etc.

Q. When you going to let me try some

Contact your doctor

NO

Maybe

**HairyLarry35** · 12-04-2006, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottyo

Q. Is anabolic pump safe or beneficial for individuals with thyroid or adrenal issues?

Q. Is anabolic pump beneficial for low carb or timed carb diets such as UD2.0, CKD, TKD etc.

Q. When you going to let me try some

Keto diets aren't the best on this. A diet of carbs would be prefered. Otherwise, a blood sugar would be way too low.

**tattoopierced1** · 12-04-2006, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhawkk

I'd imagine it would depend on a few factors but since this is supposed to make your body be more efficient it would be fine. However, he controls it trhoguh diet and not shots it would probably be safer but as anything like this i'd say talk to the personal doc first.

he controls it though an insulin pump...kinda looks like a beeper with a hose connected to his stomach.

**dagecko** · 12-04-2006, 06:10 PM

1. How long are the effects of AP supposed to last?
2. Because of the increased "pump" created by AP, does this pose any danger of increased muscle fatigue or cramping?
3. I'm also curious about it's effects on insulin and whether prolonged use will lead to any type of insulin related health problem.
4. I know this was covered in different threads but for consumer ease, can you create a suggested dosing protocol when used by itself and when stacked with other USP products (eg, AP+Cialabol; AP+Cialabol+Cissus; etc.)

Btw, I capped AP from Nutra am loving it and can't wait for AP to be released! Hopefully it'll be soon before I run out of my bulk stock.

**CHAPS** · 12-04-2006, 06:11 PM

"What about GI "issues?" In other words, how regular will this AP make you?"

No problems so far and haven't heard anyone complain of any GI distress.

**mmowry** · 12-04-2006, 06:12 PM

Since ANABOLIC PUMP keeps muscle tissue fueled during your day, would it be more efficient to do cardio in the morning in a fasted state before your first dose? From what Ive read this should be the optimium time to use fat as fuel.Correct?

**CHAPS** · 12-04-2006, 06:16 PM

No need to change your timing of cardio, but ya doing cardio first thing in the morning on an empty stomach will burn boatloads of fat. Just don't pop AP THEN do the cardio on an empty stomach you'd go SUPER hypo. AP will keep your blood sugar stable which is the key to fatloss, i really wouldn't worry about changing around your cardio. Besides it depends how intense the cardio is as to what fuel your body is using, remember it's the longer duration cardio that really taps into your fat stores longer duration at around 65% of your max heart rate.

**Jayhawkk** · 12-04-2006, 06:16 PM

Using an insulin pump means he pretty much lacks the ability to make insulin at all. I would run it by the doc first.

**mmowry** · 12-04-2006, 06:23 PM

Chaps thanks for the quick replies.Last question off the top of my head when will we know if weve been chosen?

**CHAPS** · 12-04-2006, 06:23 PM

?1. How long are the effects of AP supposed to last?
2. Because of the increased "pump" created by AP, does this pose any danger of increased muscle fatigue or cramping?
3. I'm also curious about it's effects on insulin and whether prolonged use will lead to any type of insulin related health problem.
4. I know this was covered in different threads but for consumer ease, can you create a suggested dosing protocol when used by itself and when stacked with other USP products (eg, AP+Cialabol; AP+Cialabol+Cissus; etc.)"

1. 6 hours
2. No you'll notice more endurance from it actually
3. It will increase your insulin sensitivity so this will PREVENT diabetes.
4.

AP: 3 caps 1 before breakfast, lunch and dinner

Cialabol: 6 caps 2 before breakfast, 2 pre-workout, 2 post workout

PowerFull: 12 Caps, 4 caps 3 times a day 20 minutes before meals

Rem: 4 before bed

This is actually the stack i'm currently using just i'm using the Beta version of Cialabol so i'm using 12 caps. Excellent stack for muscle gain and fatloss.

MadJimF · 12-04-2006, 06:37 PM

will anabolic-pump have any negative side effects on blood pressure, or any other health related problems? sounds like a great product, i just don't want to use anything that could speed me up to the grave.

VtecTypeR · 12-04-2006, 06:39 PM

How is AP considered to a prohormone when using it for recomposition?

Mr X · 12-04-2006, 06:40 PM

Can I get a free bottle for my awesome proofreading skills?
You spelled Warning wrong on the lable. Check it out.

**CHAPS** · 12-04-2006, 06:41 PM

"will anabolic-pump have any negative side effects on blood pressure, or any other health related problems? sounds like a great product, i just don't want to use anything that could speed me up to the grave."

No, remember the ingredients in this stuff has been around for sometime now.

**CHAPS** · 12-04-2006, 06:44 PM

"How is AP considered to a prohormone when using it for recomposition?"

I think you mean to ask would it compare to prohormones, and yes it would, minus the aggression and shut down. This stuff is making the most anabolic stuff around (food) work more efficiently to help build muscle fast.

**mmowry** · 12-04-2006, 06:50 PM

Will AP help motivate me in my multitasking e.g. wipeing drool,tieing shoes,mowing the lawn and putting socks on others.Finaly;will it help me to use proper punctuation,thereby erradicating runon sentences?LOL

Lanbane · 12-04-2006, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USPLabs

O snap, I love the slogan.

Hell yeah! Jacob said Snap. I thought I was alone in using this nowadays.

Lanbane · 12-04-2006, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr X

Can I get a free bottle for my awesome proofreading skills?
You spelled Warning wrong on the lable. Check it out.

There's more. Emailed Jacob about it already *wink* I for one wasn't gonna call the guy out on the forum....... lol

12-04-2006, 04:25 PM	#95
mmowry Board Supporter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: PA Age: 35 Posts: 502 Points: 482.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 482.00 Donate Reputation: points: 54207 / Rep Power: 2227	1) Would this be beneficial if one has a high estro level ?Concluding that if fat cells are shut down would this also lower the aromatase enzyme since in theory adipose tissue is being starved of fuel. 2) Since AnabolicPump shuttles nutrients into muscle,then this should make Every Thing thats ingested several times more effective thusly aiding anabolism.Due to the fact that all nutrients are used in muscle tissue quickly.So no more passes thruogh the liver and while taking in low GI carbs they are used as the preferential fuel source so no protein break down.Correct __________________ "Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;in all your ways acknowledge HIM,and HE will make your paths straight." Prov 3:5-6

12-04-2006, 04:50 PM	#99
mmowry Board Supporter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: PA Age: 35 Posts: 502 Points: 482.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 482.00 Donate Reputation: points: 54207 / Rep Power: 2227	Those were my expected answers Thanks! __________________ "Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;in all your ways acknowledge HIM,and HE will make your paths straight." Prov 3:5-6

12-04-2006, 05:41 PM	#101
HairyLarry35 Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NYC Age: 23 Posts: 314 Points: 25.50 Bank: 79.85 Total Points: 105.35 Donate Reputation: points: 39765 / Rep Power: 1616	What about GI "issues?" In other words, how regular will this AP make you? I'm looking forward to running a clen+lipoUltra/cap+t3 log with my staples (AP will be one of them, for sure). AP's ability to block triglyceride uptake in adipocytes and shuttle nutrients into muscle will be a godsend. While the other portions of my stack shall be freeing fatty acids and raising thermic temp. Oh, and a healthy 40/40/20 diet with plenty of exercise will be included too HL __________________ http://anabolicminds.com/forum/suppl...s-dcp-log.html

12-04-2006, 06:12 PM	#108
mmowry Board Supporter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: PA Age: 35 Posts: 502 Points: 482.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 482.00 Donate Reputation: points: 54207 / Rep Power: 2227	Since ANABOLIC PUMP keeps muscle tissue fueled during your day, would it be more efficient to do cardio in the morning in a fasted state before your first dose? From what Ive read this should be the optimium time to use fat as fuel.Correct? __________________ "Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;in all your ways acknowledge HIM,and HE will make your paths straight." Prov 3:5-6

12-04-2006, 06:23 PM	#111
mmowry Board Supporter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: PA Age: 35 Posts: 502 Points: 482.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 482.00 Donate Reputation: points: 54207 / Rep Power: 2227	Chaps thanks for the quick replies.Last question off the top of my head when will we know if weve been chosen? __________________ "Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;in all your ways acknowledge HIM,and HE will make your paths straight." Prov 3:5-6

12-04-2006, 03:57 PM	#91
CHAPS USP LABS REP Board Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 23 Posts: 2,856 Points: 396.50 Bank: 966.00 Total Points: 1,362.50 Donate Reputation: points: 76896 / Rep Power: 3231	"Would stacking AP with melting point and clen be about as potent a fatburning stack as anything else out there?" I've never used Melting point myself but i'm currently using AP+Clen and LOVING it. I'm finding i'm not getting the normal nasty clen sides either such as cramps and headaches, maybe because the AP is keeping my muscles full of aminos. I wanna try AP+Clen+T4, which is coming soon . Yohimbine HCL would be excellent to use along with AP for cutting as it's effects are really dependant on keeping blood sugar levels stable and as AP will do that i can see it being a very nice stack for shaving off those love handles.

12-04-2006, 04:04 PM	#92
TheMyth Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 30 Posts: 437 Points: 266.50 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 266.50 Donate Reputation: points: 14122 / Rep Power: 622	Very true about the Yohimbine, didn't think about that.

12-04-2006, 04:09 PM	#93
CHAPS USP LABS REP Board Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 23 Posts: 2,856 Points: 396.50 Bank: 966.00 Total Points: 1,362.50 Donate Reputation: points: 76896 / Rep Power: 3231	Yohimbine also increases the half-life of clen , just some stacking options to think about. Oh and opt for the clen+ketotifen it's the bomb!

12-04-2006, 04:24 PM	#94
goldlifter Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22 Points: 12.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 12.00 Donate Reputation: points: 0 / Rep Power: 0	are there any downregulation of its effects with continuous use? i have used the bulk powder from a retailer and have been very pleased so far

12-04-2006, 04:29 PM	#96
TheMyth Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 30 Posts: 437 Points: 266.50 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 266.50 Donate Reputation: points: 14122 / Rep Power: 622	You should make a new product with Powerfull and AP in it. You can call it "Powerfull Pump", the new PP(old PP being Pheraplex).

12-04-2006, 04:42 PM	#97
CHAPS USP LABS REP Board Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 23 Posts: 2,856 Points: 396.50 Bank: 966.00 Total Points: 1,362.50 Donate Reputation: points: 76896 / Rep Power: 3231	"are there any downregulation of its effects with continuous use? i have used the bulk powder from a retailer and have been very pleased so far" Jacob has been using it for over 3 months now i believe and a couple other members have been using it for a couple weeks now with no loss of effects.

12-04-2006, 04:45 PM	#98
CHAPS USP LABS REP Board Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 23 Posts: 2,856 Points: 396.50 Bank: 966.00 Total Points: 1,362.50 Donate Reputation: points: 76896 / Rep Power: 3231	"1) Would this be beneficial if one has a high estro level ?Concluding that if fat cells are shut down would this also lower the aromatase enzyme since in theory adipose tissue is being starved of fuel. 2) Since AnabolicPump shuttles nutrients into muscle,then this should make Every Thing thats ingested several times more effective thusly aiding anabolism.Due to the fact that all nutrients are used in muscle tissue quickly.So no more passes thruogh the liver and while taking in low GI carbs they are used as the preferential fuel source so no protein break down.Correct" 1. Yes, and as AP will help to reduce bodyfat it will also help reduce estrogen levels as bodyfat is breeding grounds for estrogen. 2. Yup!

12-04-2006, 05:53 PM	#102
Scottyo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 776 Points: 91.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 91.00 Donate Reputation: points: 1431 / Rep Power: 143	Q. Is anabolic pump safe or beneficial for individuals with thyroid or adrenal issues? Q. Is anabolic pump beneficial for low carb or timed carb diets such as UD2.0, CKD, TKD etc. Q. When you going to let me try some

12-04-2006, 06:10 PM	#106
dagecko I know you wanna lick my boobs... Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 374 Points: 0.00 Bank: 1,713.26 Total Points: 1,713.26 Donate Reputation: points: 7701 / Rep Power: 333	1. How long are the effects of AP supposed to last? 2. Because of the increased "pump" created by AP, does this pose any danger of increased muscle fatigue or cramping? 3. I'm also curious about it's effects on insulin and whether prolonged use will lead to any type of insulin related health problem. 4. I know this was covered in different threads but for consumer ease, can you create a suggested dosing protocol when used by itself and when stacked with other USP products (eg, AP+Cialabol; AP+Cialabol+Cissus; etc.) Btw, I capped AP from Nutra am loving it and can't wait for AP to be released! Hopefully it'll be soon before I run out of my bulk stock.

12-04-2006, 06:11 PM	#107
CHAPS USP LABS REP Board Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 23 Posts: 2,856 Points: 396.50 Bank: 966.00 Total Points: 1,362.50 Donate Reputation: points: 76896 / Rep Power: 3231	"What about GI "issues?" In other words, how regular will this AP make you?" No problems so far and haven't heard anyone complain of any GI distress.

12-04-2006, 06:16 PM	#109
CHAPS USP LABS REP Board Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 23 Posts: 2,856 Points: 396.50 Bank: 966.00 Total Points: 1,362.50 Donate Reputation: points: 76896 / Rep Power: 3231	No need to change your timing of cardio, but ya doing cardio first thing in the morning on an empty stomach will burn boatloads of fat. Just don't pop AP THEN do the cardio on an empty stomach you'd go SUPER hypo. AP will keep your blood sugar stable which is the key to fatloss, i really wouldn't worry about changing around your cardio. Besides it depends how intense the cardio is as to what fuel your body is using, remember it's the longer duration cardio that really taps into your fat stores longer duration at around 65% of your max heart rate.

12-04-2006, 06:23 PM	#112
CHAPS USP LABS REP Board Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 23 Posts: 2,856 Points: 396.50 Bank: 966.00 Total Points: 1,362.50 Donate Reputation: points: 76896 / Rep Power: 3231	?1. How long are the effects of AP supposed to last? 2. Because of the increased "pump" created by AP, does this pose any danger of increased muscle fatigue or cramping? 3. I'm also curious about it's effects on insulin and whether prolonged use will lead to any type of insulin related health problem. 4. I know this was covered in different threads but for consumer ease, can you create a suggested dosing protocol when used by itself and when stacked with other USP products (eg, AP+Cialabol; AP+Cialabol+Cissus; etc.)" 1. 6 hours 2. No you'll notice more endurance from it actually 3. It will increase your insulin sensitivity so this will PREVENT diabetes. 4. AP: 3 caps 1 before breakfast, lunch and dinner Cialabol: 6 caps 2 before breakfast, 2 pre-workout, 2 post workout PowerFull: 12 Caps, 4 caps 3 times a day 20 minutes before meals Rem: 4 before bed This is actually the stack i'm currently using just i'm using the Beta version of Cialabol so i'm using 12 caps. Excellent stack for muscle gain and fatloss.

12-04-2006, 06:37 PM	#113
MadJimF Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Knoxville, TN, USA Age: 43 Posts: 174 Points: 117.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 117.00 Donate Reputation: points: 5209 / Rep Power: 233	will anabolic-pump have any negative side effects on blood pressure, or any other health related problems? sounds like a great product, i just don't want to use anything that could speed me up to the grave.

12-04-2006, 06:39 PM	#114
VtecTypeR Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 51 Points: 63.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 63.00 Donate Reputation: points: 4279 / Rep Power: 183	How is AP considered to a prohormone when using it for recomposition?

12-04-2006, 06:40 PM	#115
Mr X Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 27 Posts: 91 Points: 17.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 17.00 Donate Reputation: points: 615 / Rep Power: 47	Labelling Error Can I get a free bottle for my awesome proofreading skills? You spelled Warning wrong on the lable. Check it out. Attached Thumbnails

12-04-2006, 06:41 PM	#116
CHAPS USP LABS REP Board Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 23 Posts: 2,856 Points: 396.50 Bank: 966.00 Total Points: 1,362.50 Donate Reputation: points: 76896 / Rep Power: 3231	"will anabolic-pump have any negative side effects on blood pressure, or any other health related problems? sounds like a great product, i just don't want to use anything that could speed me up to the grave." No, remember the ingredients in this stuff has been around for sometime now.

12-04-2006, 06:44 PM	#117
CHAPS USP LABS REP Board Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 23 Posts: 2,856 Points: 396.50 Bank: 966.00 Total Points: 1,362.50 Donate Reputation: points: 76896 / Rep Power: 3231	"How is AP considered to a prohormone when using it for recomposition?" I think you mean to ask would it compare to prohormones, and yes it would, minus the aggression and shut down. This stuff is making the most anabolic stuff around (food) work more efficiently to help build muscle fast.

12-04-2006, 06:50 PM	#118
mmowry Board Supporter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: PA Age: 35 Posts: 502 Points: 482.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 482.00 Donate Reputation: points: 54207 / Rep Power: 2227	Will AP help motivate me in my multitasking e.g. wipeing drool,tieing shoes,mowing the lawn and putting socks on others.Finaly;will it help me to use proper punctuation,thereby erradicating runon sentences?LOL __________________ "Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;in all your ways acknowledge HIM,and HE will make your paths straight." Prov 3:5-6

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