[haiz69]

Originally Posted by 2fresh

What about after workout since I think that would be one of the best times?

Dose it 15 minutes before you Post-WO MEAL.

[Popa Murph]

I can't wait to get some AP!.

[USPLabs]

where are my reps!!!!!!

[haiz69]

Originally Posted by xtraflossy

Does AP cause a dulling of sensitivity to insulin?
Would I need to watch my carbs after 30 days on AP to avoid any unwanted fat gains?

(lol- I already signed up for the newsletter... should I do it again?)

I am not sure about the newsletter, that question I want to know myself.

From everything I have seen and read, dulling of insulin sensitivity IS NOT a problem.

As for upping the carbs after, it really depends how you react to carbs. I know, for me, if I were eating as many carbs as I am right now (on AP), without anabolic pump, I would be adding fat, but with AP I am not.

[TheMyth]

So let me get this straight. Since AP stops fat cells from becoming insulin sensitive while upregulating insulin sensitivity in the muscles one could theoretically eat cake, candy, and other garbage and not worry about gaining fat? And this would simultaneously increase glycogen in the muscles creating an anabolic environment in them from simply eating garbage? If this is true, you really have found the magic pill that everyone has been looking for!

So when you sending me my bottle to try out and log?

[haiz69]

Originally Posted by USPLabs

where are my reps!!!!!!

Not a rep, but I am trying my best to answer these questions. People must know how good this stuff is!

[haiz69]

Originally Posted by TheMyth

So let me get this straight. Since AP stops fat cells from becoming insulin sensitive while upregulating insulin sensitivity in the muscles one could theoretically eat cake, candy, and other garbage and not worry about gaining fat? And this would simultaneously increase glycogen in the muscles creating an anabolic environment in them from simply eating garbage? If this is true, you really have found the magic pill that everyone has been looking for!

I have certainly not tried this. I know that I ate pretty badly over thanksgiving, and AP really helped to stop any BF% gain, BUT I would eat it with mostly complex carbs. With simple carbs and AP, I feel tired and terrible!

[dadream]

Does anabolic pump have antioxidant properties???????

[AnonyMoose]

So when is this coming out? Will you still provide bulk yellow gold powder as well?

[haiz69]

STATEMENT: Drink your WATER!

Without enough water, I feel that you will miss out on some of the effects of AP AND you will get some killer headaches. I cannot stress this enough!

[haiz69]

Originally Posted by dadream

Does anabolic pump have antioxidant properties???????

Yes! - but you will have to ask USP exactly how the mechanisms work. I have read that it does though.

[USPLabs]

Originally Posted by xtraflossy

Does AP cause a dulling of sensitivity to insulin?
Would I need to watch my carbs after 30 days on AP to avoid any unwanted fat gains?

(lol- I already signed up for the newsletter... should I do it again?)

Ah,.. ok, here's a little something as to the HOW

Lagerstroemia Speciosa


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Other names:

Banaba,Queen's Crape Myrtle,
Queen's flower

Botany:
A decidious tropical flowering tree, 5 to 7 m high, sometimes growing to a height of 20 meters. Leaves, large, spatulate, 2-4 inches in width, 5-8 inches in length; shedding its leaves the first months of the year. Before shedding, the leaves are bright orange or red during which time it is thought to contain higher levels of corosolic acid).Flowers are racemes, pink to lavender; flowering from March to June. After flowering, the tree bears large clumps of oval nutlike fruits.






Supplement
Banaba Leaf



Description
Banaba is a medicinal plant that grows in India, Southeast Asia and the Philippines. Traditional uses include brewing tea from the leaves as a treatment for diabetes and hyperglycemia (elevated blood sugar). The hypoglycemic (blood sugar lowering) effect of banaba leaf extract is similar to that of insulin — which induces glucose transport from the blood into body cells.



Claims
Balances blood sugar
Promotes healthy insulin levels
Controls appetite and food craving (especially carbohydrate cravings)
May promote weight loss



Theory
Banaba leaf extract contains a triterpenoid compound known as corosolic acid — which has actions in stimulating glucose transport into cells. As such, banaba plays a role in regulating levels of blood sugar and insulin in the blood. For some people, fluctuations in blood sugar and insulin are related to appetite, hunger and various food cravings — particularly craving for carbohydrates such as bread and sweets. By keeping blood sugar and insulin levels in check, banaba may be an effective supplement for promoting weight loss in certain individuals.

The blood sugar regulating properties of banaba have been demonstrated in cell culture, animal and human studies. In isolated cells, the active ingredient in banaba extract, corosolic acid, is known to stimulate glucose uptake. In diabetic mice, rats and rabbits, banaba feeding reduces elevated blood sugar and insulin levels to normal. In humans with type II diabetes, banaba extract, at a dose of 16-48mg per day for 4-8 weeks, has been shown to be effective in reducing blood sugar levels (5%-30% reduction) and maintaining tighter control of blood sugar fluctuations. An interesting “side-effect” of tighter control of blood sugar and insulin levels is a significant tendency of banaba to promote weight loss (an average of 2-4 lbs. per month) — without significant dietary alterations. It is likely that modulation of glucose and insulin levels reduces total caloric intake somewhat and encourages moderate weight loss.


Numerous studies have been done on this remarkable herb, much of it in Japan, with researchers such as Dr. Yamazaki, professor of Pharmaceutical Science, Hiroshima University School of Medicine. One study mixed banaba dried leaf powder with chicken feeds, and then analyzed the yolk of the chicken egg. When the banaba enriched egg yolk was fed to diabetic mice, their blood sugar level was normalized. In another study, the alcohol extract of banaba leaves was sprayed into the air of a room at night while the patient was sleeping via a mist generating device. It was found that as the person slept, their lungs received trace amounts of corosolic acid which helped regulate blood sugar levels.

Following the studies done by the Japanese which isolated corosolic acid as the active component, other studies followed. In 1999 a clinical study was conducted on diabetes patients by Dr. William V. Judy at the Southwestern Institute of Biomedical Research, Brandenton, Florida, which found that corosolic acid universally lowered blood sugar levels of all patients. The higher the dosage of corosolic acid, the lower blood sugar levels dropped.
However, more recent studies have shown that the entire herb is useful in lowering blood sugar, and that corosolic acid is probably not the only active ingredient in banaba leaves. A study published in 2001 by Edison Biotechnology Institute, Department of Biomedical Sciences, College of Osteopathic Medicine, in Athens, Ohio compared a whole leaf extract of banaba with insulin in cell cultures. They concluded that the whole herb had a glucose lowering effect and could be used to fight diabetes and obesity. A study reported in the Feb. 2002 volume of Planta Med stated that corosolic acid alone could not account for the glucose transport effect of banaba extracts, and identified at least three active components. (Go here to see details of these studies.)

Because of the way banaba helps the body to handle glucose (glucose transport activator) it is also used effectively in weight-loss products. Supplementwatch.com says: "An interesting 'side-effect' of tighter control of blood sugar and insulin levels is a significant tendency of banaba to promote weight loss – without significant dietary alterations. It is likely that modulation of glucose and insulin levels reduces total caloric intake somewhat and encourages moderate weight loss."

Supplementwatch is slightly outdated. Corsolic acid is a part of the AP but the Tannins in AP are responsible for the sum of the total effect. WIth the Tannins removed banaba becomes much less effective.

[Jayhawkk]

You reps are probably waiting for you to let them know you made this post, lol.

[JJC]

The write-up mentions that if you're taking steroids or growth hormones, you should definitely take this as well. What if you're not? Are there any natural prodcuts that you should take with this in order to maximize your results?

For example, if you were doing a natural test booster(trib, nettle root, etc) would you get even better results using AP? Or would your results be pretty similar if you weren't using a natural test booster?

There are alot of people (like myself) who wish to stay natural, I'm hoping that I could get the most out of AP without using steroids or hormones.

This seems almost too good to be true, but I would love to give it a shot...

[\_JIMBO_/]

It's definitly a supplement that you can FEEL! From the first pumps to the Hypo effects(if you don't eat enough carbs). This stuff is a dieters DREAM! Scratch that... It is a DREAM in General. No matter what your Goals, AP helps get you there, USP put in the time and the research and we get the benifit! Thank you USP for bringing such innovative products to the market and thank you for treating your loyal customers so well. From Cissus to AP, USP keeps us all on our toes.

[haiz69]

Originally Posted by JJC

The write-up mentions that if you're taking steroids or growth hormones, you should definitely take this as well. What if you're not? Are there any natural prodcuts that you should take with this in order to maximize your results?

For example, if you were doing a natural test booster(trib, nettle root, etc) would you get even better results using AP? Or would your results be pretty similar if you weren't using a natural test booster?

There are alot of people (like myself) who wish to stay natural, I'm hoping that I could get the most out of AP without using steroids or hormones.

This seems almost too good to be true, but I would love to give it a shot...

You CERTAINLY DO NOT NEED to be taking steroids to get the most out of AP.

I think AP + CAMP would be a killer stack, but you don't need to stack it with anything to see amazing results.

[xtraflossy]

Compounds isolated from Lagerstroemia speciosa (Banaba)
Philippine Banaba - PhilippineHerbs.com

Activation of insulin receptors by lagerstroemin.Hattori K, Sukenobu N, Sasaki T, Takasuga S, Hayashi T, Kasai R, Yamasaki K, Hazeki O.
Division of Molecular Medical Science, Graduate School of Biomedical Sciences, Hiroshima University, Hiroshima, Japan.

Lagerstroemin, an ellagitannin isolated from the leaves of Lagerstroemia speciosa (L.) Pers. (Lythraceae), was examined for its biological activities. In rat adipocytes, the compound increased the rate of glucose uptake and decreased the isoproterenol-induced glycerol release. In Chinese hamster ovary cells expressing human insulin receptors, it increased the Erk activity. These insulin-like actions were accompanied by the increased tyrosine-phosphorylation of the beta-subunit of the insulin receptors. Tryptic digestion of the extracellular sites of the insulin receptors markedly increased the effective concentrations of insulin without changing those of lagerstroemin. Thus lagerstroemin was considered to cause its insulin-like actions by a mechanism different from that employed by insulin.
PMID: 14501154 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


Hypoglycemic effect of extracts from Lagerstroemia speciosa L. leaves in genetically diabetic KK-AY mice.
Kakuda T, Sakane I, Takihara T, Ozaki Y, Takeuchi H, Kuroyanagi M.

Central Research Institute, Itoen, Ltd., Sagara-cho, Haibara-gun, Shizuoka, Japan.

The hypoglycemic effects of Lagerstroemia speciosa L., known by the Tagalog name of banaba in the Phillipines, were studied using hereditary diabetic mice (Type II, KK-AY/Ta Jcl). The mice were fed a test diet containing 5% of the hot-water extract (HWE) from banaba leaves, 3% of the water eluent of the partial fraction unadsorbed onto HP-20 resin of HWE (HPWE), and 2% of the methanol eluent of the partial fraction adsorbed onto HP-20 resin of it (HPME) for a feeding period of 5 weeks. The elevation of blood plasma glucose level in non-insulin dependent diabetic mice fed the cellulose as control (CEL) diet were almost entirely suppressed by addition of either HWE or HPME in place of cellulose in the CEL diet. Water intakes were inclined to increase gradually in the group fed either CEL or HPWE, but lower in the mice fed either HWE or HPME than in the animals given either CEL or HPME. The level of serum insulin and the amount of urinary excreted glucose were also lowered in mice fed HWE. Plasma total cholesterol level was also lowered in mice fed the either HWE or HPME. It is suggested that HWE, especially HPME, obtained from banaba leaves have beneficial effects on control of the level of plasma glucose in non-insulin dependent diabetes mellitus.

PMID: 9063966 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


TANNIS

Tannic acid stimulates glucose transport and inhibits adipocyte differentiation in 3T3-L1 cells.Liu X, Kim JK, Li Y, Li J, Liu F, Chen X.
Department of Biochemistry, Edison Biotechnology Institute, College of Osteopathic Medicine, Ohio University, Athens, OH 45701, USA.

Obesity is a major risk factor for Syndrome X and type II diabetes (T2D). However, most antidiabetic drugs that are hypoglycemic also promote weight gain, thus alleviating one symptom of T2D while aggravating a major risk factor that leads to T2D. Adipogenesis, the differentiation and proliferation of adipocytes, is a major mechanism leading to weight gain and obesity. It is highly desirable to develop pharmaceuticals and treatments for T2D that reduce blood glucose levels without inducing adipogenesis in patients. Previously, we reported that an extract from Lagerstroemia speciosa L. (banaba) possessed activities that both stimulated glucose transport and inhibited adipocyte differentiation in 3T3-L1 cells. Using glucose uptake assays and Western/Northern blot analyses as major tools and 3T3-L1 cells as a model, we showed that the banaba extract (BE) with tannin removed was devoid of the 2 activities, and tannic acid (TA), a major component of tannins, had the same 2 activities as BE. Inhibitors known to abolish insulin-induced glucose transport also blocked TA-induced glucose transport. We further detected that TA induced phosphorylation of the insulin receptor (IR) and Akt, as well as translocation of glucose transporter 4 (GLUT 4), the protein factors involved in the signaling pathway of insulin-mediated glucose transport. We also demonstrated that TA inhibited the expression of key genes for adipogenesis. Differences between samples with or without TA in all of the quantitative assays were significant (P < 0.05). These results suggest that TA may be useful for the prevention and treatment of T2D and its associated obesity. TA may have the potential to become the lead compound in the development of new types of antidiabetic pharmaceuticals that are able to reduce blood glucose levels without increasing adiposity.
Entrez PubMed

[tattoopierced1]

oh, another question. I have a buddy who is a diabetic, is this OK for him to take?

[joebo]

When is the best time to take AP?

Can I safely stack this with any other USP Labs products, ie powerfull/camph?
If so, what is the recommended doses for each?

What can I expect to see results wise in week1, 2, 3, 4, etc?

[\_JIMBO_/]

Those who pride themselves on being "all natural" have found a New Weapon. Using AP while on will make any cycle better. Using AP while clean IS just as benificial!

[protomike]

Originally Posted by haiz69

You CERTAINLY DO NOT NEED to be taking steroids to get the most out of AP.

I think AP + CAMP would be a killer stack, but you don't need to stack it with anything to see amazing results.

with powerfull added in it is even better!

[xtraflossy]

Originally Posted by USPLabs

Supplementwatch is slightly outdated. Corsolic acid is a part of the AP but the Tannins in AP are responsible for the sum of the total effect. WIth the Tannins removed banaba becomes much less effective.

Yeah, I read that also. I was really interested in the "how" it worked to see if any sort of slin resistance could be developed after prolonged use (2+ months).
Im looking forward to trying this soon!! I just ordered some CEE and hoping the 2 will compliment each other... (I havent used a creatine product in years... )
The only time frames for studies have been around 5 weeks.
(Well, some 12 week studies on mice). I wonder if these same effects are found in humans that were found in mice....

Results from animal studies suggest Lagerstroemia speciosa extract:
Moderates liver lipid levels
Moderates blood cholesterol levels


Hmmmm,... if so, would be a nice addition in any future post cycle therapy I may or may go through

[protomike]

Originally Posted by tattoopierced1

oh, another question. I have a buddy who is a diabetic, is this OK for him to take?

yaya check out petes log CialaGold Log, Stardate 10/06

[bigstabile]

What kind of effects can someone in a calorie surplus expect? It sounds like AP not only helps in losing fat but the added nutrient uptake should work wonders for those of us who are trying to gain weight, correct?

[saludable24]

When taking Anabolic Pump, should one avoid supplemnts like ALA, R-ALA, K-R-ALA, and Na-R-ALA? What about Chromium? What would be the results of using this supplement in a ketogenic diet? Will AP spare/preserve muscle tissue while in a caloric deficit?

[haiz69]

Originally Posted by joebo

When is the best time to take AP?

Can I safely stack this with any other USP Labs products, ie powerfull/camph?
If so, what is the recommended doses for each?

What can I expect to see results wise in week1, 2, 3, 4, etc?

Dosing:

On days:

Breakfast, Pre-WO Meal, and Post-WO Meal assuming that they all contain carbs.

Off days:

Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner.


It is fine to stack AP with other USP labs products. I would dose them as they are directed. As I mentioned earlier, CAMP + AP would be a killer Lean Bulk or Fat-Loss Stack.

I would say that reults wise, you will SEE serious improvement in 4 weeks.

[haiz69]

Originally Posted by saludable24

When taking Anabolic Pump, should one avoid supplemnts like ALA, R-ALA, K-R-ALA, and Na-R-ALA? What about Chromium? What would be the results of using this supplement in a ketogenic diet? Will AP spare/preserve muscle tissue while in a caloric deficit?

I am interested in the ALA, etc...question as well....USP?


DON'T USE THIS WITH A KETOGENIC DIET!! It feeds off of carbs so to speak. You would feel terrible if you took AP without carbs.

Yes, AP will allow you to preserve muscle while dropping fat, and perhaps even add some.

[haiz69]

Originally Posted by bigstabile

What kind of effects can someone in a calorie surplus expect? It sounds like AP not only helps in losing fat but the added nutrient uptake should work wonders for those of us who are trying to gain weight, correct?

I am qualified to answer this - YES!! I am bulking with it right now, and have gained 5 pounds or so without any fat (or very little). I have a log going over at BB.com. I'll be posting my results up here too!

[protomike]

Originally Posted by bigstabile

What kind of effects can someone in a calorie surplus expect? It sounds like AP not only helps in losing fat but the added nutrient uptake should work wonders for those of us who are trying to gain weight, correct?

i've lost 2% body fat, and gained around seven plus pounds on the scale since i started using ap.

[B5150]

Originally Posted by USPLabs

****, I need to correct the write up to incude the Tannis complex. That being said, The Original Formula of P-insulin does have the same quality. I have 2 compounds in this formula that have the same mechanism. I can easliy release 2 different products but decided to make ONE unbelievable formula!

The industry will scream Blasphemy but results have been proven on this board. Users are increasing there Carb intake and gaining muscle and losing fat.

One or two ingredients, I would still love to experience the ANABOLIC-PUMP™