[Lanbane]

No offense, but careful Chaps..... Statements like that easily get turned against companies.

[Mulletsoldier]

Originally Posted by gymrat5713

All I can tell you until I receive mine and test it out is just to be patient bc if it works as good as I think it will(by what i've heard) Then you'll have no problem gaining 5-10lbs. Then again I don't know how good ur genetics are so it's hard to say from my stand point.

It is slightly unreasonable to claim an expected poundage, as even with such a great product this is entirely dependent on a solid foundation; diet, training, sleep, etc.,

It also depends on how you react to AP. Though non-responders were few and far between, there were some. Expect to recomp, and recomp well, however I just don't think labelling a product with a poundage expectation is fair.

[sublimejeh]

Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier

however I just don't think labelling a product with a poundage expectation is fair.

You mean Like the Muscletech Celltech ads?

[CHAPS]

Originally Posted by Lanbane

No offense, but careful Chaps..... Statements like that easily get turned against companies.

True, that was more my own opinion as i've put on 7lbs of mass in 4 weeks, i will say this though it WILL help you gain muscle while dropping fat though, that's a bold claim but a true one.

[swole210]

Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier

It is slightly unreasonable to claim an expected poundage, as even with such a great product this is entirely dependent on a solid foundation; diet, training, sleep, etc.,

It also depends on how you react to AP. Though non-responders were few and far between, there were some. Expect to recomp, and recomp well, however I just don't think labelling a product with a poundage expectation is fair.

Absolutely true Mullet! Too often, people want to know how effective a product is, by wanting to know how many pounds they will gain. If a product only makes you 2-4lbs, but makes you drop 5lbs of fat at the same time, well to me that is a pretty effective product, as the "muscle" gain is a lot more than just 2-4 lbs. Weight gain is JUST that, WEIGHT gain. LBM gains is a totally different beast, than just glycogen, and water gains. But some people just don't know or understand that! So absolutely true that labelling a product with a poundage expectation is not fair or correct. If it were a purely "wet" or "dirty " bulking compound, then I guess you can judge it by the amount of weight gained on it, even though everyone will gain differently, and some will gain a lot, and others very little. Any how, to make a longstory short.......GOOD POINT!

[crankchest]

thank its hard to know what is possible with the goofy claims all the other compainies hvae.The whole idea of ap is incredible. There will be no reason to take anything else. Ap does what everything else wants to do .5lbs a month is very impressiveto me. I have a great stack AP water protiene carbs fat rest and lifting thats all I will need!!!

[WannaBeHulk]

Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier

It is slightly unreasonable to claim an expected poundage, as even with such a great product this is entirely dependent on a solid foundation; diet, training, sleep, etc.,

It also depends on how you react to AP. Though non-responders were few and far between, there were some. Expect to recomp, and recomp well, however I just don't think labelling a product with a poundage expectation is fair.

[bpmartyr]

AP will undoubtedly add at least 20% to your shlong, your max bench, your IQ, your income and free time while simulaneously reducing debt, unhappiness, misfortune, cowardess, deciet, unholy thoughts, impotence, penile tucking, dog kicking and overall pvssification just opening the bottle.


For those that have yet to try AP: the above statement is for entertainment puroses only and is not intended to diagnose or treat any medical conditions or any symptoms of the generally life challenged.

[crankchest]

I understand that is not possible to say how much. Like I said just looking for some real facts, I will be happy with any real gains and any fat loss. I just orderd AP I will eat alot lift alot and hope for the best. Its amazing how many crap supps there are it takes alot to sort it out.

[swole210]

Originally Posted by crankchest

I understand that is not possible to say how much. Like I said just looking for some real facts, I will be happy with any real gains and any fat loss. I just orderd AP I will eat alot lift alot and hope for the best. Its amazing how many crap supps there are it takes alot to sort it out.

It is amazing how much crap is out there! Just stick to the trusted companies within this board, such as USP Labs, DS, AX, ALRI..etc. I am not going to name them all them all cause you can see them all on the main board, but those are the ones I use. Anyhow, stick to the trusted companies from Anabolicminds, and you will be fine.

[Jsouth]

I was checking out this thread in anticipation for my two bottles to arrive soon and I saw that dosing works good with two days on and two days off. With that being said how well would it work to run a carb cycle at the same time. The days you are taking AP you run high complex carbs and on your off day you keep them relatively low. Would this hinder gains or would it make it better for the whole gaining mass and loosing body fat? Thanks for the help

[Mulletsoldier]

Originally Posted by Jsouth

I was checking out this thread in anticipation for my two bottles to arrive soon and I saw that dosing works good with two days on and two days off. With that being said how well would it work to run a carb cycle at the same time. The days you are taking AP you run high complex carbs and on your off day you keep them relatively low. Would this hinder gains or would it make it better for the whole gaining mass and loosing body fat? Thanks for the help

IMO, one of the beautiful aspects of AP is the ability to maintain a consistently higher level of carbohydrates than normal. If I may ask, where and whom stated that it should be used in a 2 day on, 2 day off manner?

[USPLabs]

Originally Posted by Jsouth

I was checking out this thread in anticipation for my two bottles to arrive soon and I saw that dosing works good with two days on and two days off. With that being said how well would it work to run a carb cycle at the same time. The days you are taking AP you run high complex carbs and on your off day you keep them relatively low. Would this hinder gains or would it make it better for the whole gaining mass and loosing body fat? Thanks for the help

If you are carb loading and following a keto type diet, I would use AP on the load days and double the amount of carbs that you would normally use.

If you eat carbs on a daily basis, I would use it daily. You can use 2 caps on off days and 3 caps on workout days. Once you use AP, you will dose at 3 caps.

[Speedbacker]

Might be a stupid question, as I know nothing about the product, but would it ever be beneficial to use more than 1 cap at a time?

[Ziricote]

Originally Posted by Speedbacker

Might be a stupid question, as I know nothing about the product, but would it ever be beneficial to use more than 1 cap at a time?

No, not unless you are fairly big and are planning to take in large amounts of carbohydrate and water.

[zarraza]

first - it does sound too good to be true

second - am i missing where to sign up for the newsletter?

third - is this something that would be safe for a female to take? that's all i hear around the house is - i just want to lose fat and gain muscle!!!!

fourth - how about using this in conjunction with ANY cycle - M1T, 'roids, etc.

[Ziricote]

1) It does! Rest assure this isn't hype.
2) Gain access at the right hand side of this page - USPLabs Direct
3) Yes it is safe for women.
4) Stacks great.

[zarraza]

Originally Posted by Ziricote

1) It does! Rest assure this isn't hype.
2) Gain access at the right hand side of this page - USPLabs Direct
3) Yes it is safe for women.
4) Stacks great.

thanks, got signed up - the link actually says JOIN the "group" or something, it didn't mention anything about signing up for the mailing list!

thanks again, freebies are great, but i'm gonna go search it out and see where i can pick some up for me and the mrs. to try!

[CHAPS]

Originally Posted by Ziricote

No, not unless you are fairly big and are planning to take in large amounts of carbohydrate and water.

I've used 2 caps at a time but i had to eat 150g's of carbs and chug over a litre of water, just to give you some idea.

[Ziricote]

Yeah but you're also ~270lb! :P
It certainly gives an idea of it's efficiency.

[CHAPS]

277lbs now thanks to AP! AND leaner! muahahaha

[USPLabs]

Originally Posted by zarraza

thanks, got signed up - the link actually says JOIN the "group" or something, it didn't mention anything about signing up for the mailing list!

thanks again, freebies are great, but i'm gonna go search it out and see where i can pick some up for me and the mrs. to try!

You can buy at USPLabs Direct

[tryinghard]

For those who have used it, how much and when do you take AP?

[Ziricote]

Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier

IMO, one of the beautiful aspects of AP is the ability to maintain a consistently higher level of carbohydrates than normal. If I may ask, where and whom stated that it should be used in a 2 day on, 2 day off manner?

He may have misunderstood the 2-3 caps per ON day and 2-3 caps per OFF day dosing advice...
Just to be clear - ON = Workout day, OFF = Non-Workout day

Originally Posted by tryinghard

For those who have used it, how much and when do you take AP?

Anything between 1-3 caps will be optimal for most. While the suggestion is to take ~60g carbohydrates per capsule the same 1 cap dose would still be effective at double that amount of carbohydrate. Just keep in mind that 60g is a ballpark minimum advisement.

In terms of timing- Spread your doses by around 4-6 hours for non-workout days (OFF) and eat with carbohydrates. For workout days (ON) there are a few options- Dosing morning, post-workout and evening, again with adequate carbohydrate intake.

If you're quite large (in terms of LBM) 2 caps post-workout with adequate carbohydrate and water intake is definitely on the cards.

[tryinghard]

Ziricote,

Thanks for the quick reply!

[tryinghard]

I should have mentioned in my previous post is that I have the powdered form of AP. So, how many grams are in each capsule? So I know not to take too much per serving.
Thanks

[yeahright]

I'm down to my last dose of YG. Hope the postman brings some AP soon.

[Mulletsoldier]

lol..That is not a good feeling eh?

On my first bottle I was dreading seeing that bottle go down.

[BOHICA]

3 caps a day, with 6 meals to eat. This is gonna be a fun experiment

[Alexander]

Has anyone had success with pre and postworkout dosing? For postworkout dosing do you take it immediately post workout and then have a shake followed by a meal or is it best to go straight to solid meal?