Outofbody's out of this world sleep/dream and HST training log

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Cgkone View Post
    I used selank nasally .
    Definetely sub q DSIP
    I think 500mcg is a good start.
    If it a 5 mg vial. I know I got about 5-7 doses out a vial
    5mg. I'm thinking 600-800mcg and will set a few alarms hehe. I see people do up to 1000mcg nasal dosages.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Outofbody View Post
    5mg. I'm thinking 600-800mcg and will set a few alarms hehe. I see people do up to 1000mcg nasal dosages.
    Yup 600 is cool. I wake up just fine on it. But sleep is deep and solid.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Cgkone View Post
    Yup 600 is cool. I wake up just fine on it. But sleep is deep and solid.
    Thanks man. Looking forward to this. Will report in the morning.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Cgkone View Post
    Yup 600 is cool. I wake up just fine on it. But sleep is deep and solid.
    You ran it subQ?

  5. I took 600mcg sub-q last night with no other sleep aids. Felt relaxed but it didnít put me to sleep I got up after about an hour in bed and smoked mary and went back to bed. I think I got about 5hrs sleep last night.

    Maybe Iíll try a higher dose tonight. Was hoping for deep sleep but deep sleep is not what I got.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Outofbody View Post
    I took 600mcg sub-q last night with no other sleep aids. Felt relaxed but it didnít put me to sleep I got up after about an hour in bed and smoked mary and went back to bed. I think I got about 5hrs sleep last night.

    Maybe Iíll try a higher dose tonight. Was hoping for deep sleep but deep sleep is not what I got.
    That sucks! Sleep wasnít my best friend last night either. Woke up about every hour.
    If I live every moment believing, then the chaos in my heart will be a beautiful thing.-
    I am in love, but not in love with someone or something, I am in love with my life. And for the first time, in a long time, everything is inspiring.-

  7. Quote Originally Posted by puccah8808 View Post
    That sucks! Sleep wasn’t my best friend last night either. Woke up about every hour.
    Ahh yeah that really sucks. Sorry to hear. Hoping for a better night tonight!

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Outofbody View Post
    I took 600mcg sub-q last night with no other sleep aids. Felt relaxed but it didnít put me to sleep I got up after about an hour in bed and smoked mary and went back to bed. I think I got about 5hrs sleep last night.

    Maybe Iíll try a higher dose tonight. Was hoping for deep sleep but deep sleep is not what I got.
    Bummer. Sorry to hear that.
    It didn't "put" me to sleep. But once I'm asleep it keeps me there. Me and my training partner use it for tren insomnia. I've also used it When I took morphine 8 days straight. When I take opiates too many days straight the only real withdrawal I get is restlessness at night. DSIP helped a lot with that.
    Try 1000mcg?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by puccah8808 View Post
    That sucks! Sleep wasnít my best friend last night either. Woke up about every hour.
    That's what booty calls are for

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Cgkone View Post
    Bummer. Sorry to hear that.
    It didn't "put" me to sleep. But once I'm asleep it keeps me there. Me and my training partner use it for tren insomnia. I've also used it When I took morphine 8 days straight. When I take opiates too many days straight the only real withdrawal I get is restlessness at night. DSIP helped a lot with that.
    Try 1000mcg?
    yeah I think I'm going to try 1mg tonight along with my other sleep aids, to see if it will keep me asleep

  11. I've got a bunch of prescription anti-histamines called hydroxyzine. Really strong stuff. Anyone think I should try taking this tonight with my DSIP?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Outofbody View Post
    I've got a bunch of prescription anti-histamines called hydroxyzine. Really strong stuff. Anyone think I should try taking this tonight with my DSIP?
    Vistaril. I've never tried it...or DSIP. And I've definitely never tried both together. I would be careful at first, personally.
    They use Vistaril pre-Op in conjunction with Anesthesia.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Outofbody View Post
    I've got a bunch of prescription anti-histamines called hydroxyzine. Really strong stuff. Anyone think I should try taking this tonight with my DSIP?
    I do know this the dsip never made me sleepy it just kept me asleep. So maybe you need something to get you going as far as tiredness

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Renew1 View Post
    Vistaril. I've never tried it...or DSIP. And I've definitely never tried both together. I would be careful at first, personally.
    They use Vistaril pre-Op in conjunction with Anesthesia.
    Thanks for the warning. I'll use with caution and will just try a 40-50mg dose. I have 10mg pills and it's normally taken up to 100mg.

  15. Took 1000mcg of DSIP last night
    40mg of vistaril/atarax/hydroxyzine
    smoked mary jane (twice within the hour I was getting ready for bed)
    Took 1 scoop of Primeval Labs EAA MAX Sleep
    Took 0.25mg caber sublingually (3 hrs before bed)
    Watched some good porn

    Fell asleep fairly easily within half an hour or so. Woke up twice that I can remember (got up to pee). Didn't want to get out of bed this morning. I think I got about 5.5-6hrs sleep. Getting better!

    One thing I've noticed the past two nights is that my restless legs haven't been a problem when trying to fall asleep. I usually have to break out my mobility wod stick (metal bar) and a lacrosse ball to massage my legs and feet, but not the past two nights.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by ELROCK View Post
    In!
    Welcome!

    I hope to start my new routine once I lock my sleep in again. Hopefully next week Iíll start logging my training properly, thatís the plan anyhow.

  17. Some familiar names in here. May as well let everyone know this is Gutterpump under a new alias. Been around this board since Ď07.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Outofbody View Post
    Some familiar names in here. May as well let everyone know this is Gutterpump under a new alias. Been around this board since Ď07.
    I remember you Gutterpump. You had good information & experience with Tianeptine when a few of us first started messing with it.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by ELROCK View Post
    I remember you Gutterpump. You had good information & experience with Tianeptine when a few of us first started messing with it.
    Oocch..... That stuff'll get you, if you let it.

    Your body's receptors treat it exactly like a powerful opiate. ....which means it can bring all the sides, and addiction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renew1 View Post
    Oocch..... That stuff'll get you, if you let it.

    Your body's receptors treat it exactly like a powerful opiate. ....which means it can bring all the sides, and addiction.
    It definitely needs to be treated with respect!

    I really donít use it anymore except for the occasional mood boost 1x a month.

  21. Iíve never had a problem with tianeptine addiction. I usually use one large bottle then take a month off before starting again, to prevent any downregulation. Iíve got years of experience with it but these days I only use the sulfate version because itís easier to prevent abuse with that one (extended release).

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Outofbody View Post
    Some familiar names in here. May as well let everyone know this is Gutterpump under a new alias. Been around this board since ‘07.
    You sneaky snake! LOL
    Life is fair it's your expectations that aren't.

  23. Last night I tried the same sleep stack as the night before, 1000mcg DSIP, mary jane, EAA Sleep (from Primeval Labs), and took 50mg hydroxyzine.

    Took me almost 2 hours to fall asleep even though I was exhausted. To be fair, I was at a concert (saw Journey and Def Leppard), so maybe I was a bit excited afterwards. I slept fine once I finally fell asleep but I was so restless in those first 2 hours. I must've got out of bed about 10 times. I also woke up yelling at one point last night!! I had a woman in my bed and she freaked out! I had a bad nightmare. That's rarely ever happened! I don't think I've ever woken up shouting/yelling before! lol usually I like my nightmares and kind of get sucked into them and enjoy the freakiness instead of getting frightened like that!

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    A few snaps from last nightís show got my 80s fix in (Iím an 80s fanatic). Had box seats at Madison Square Garden.
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