Tomhawk Is Eating His Cake And Having It Too (CBL)
- 11-21-2012, 09:10 PM
What would you say the best supplement to go on right now would be, on a budget. I barely make anything working during the school, When I am home for winter break and summer I have my old jobs still, and I might be doing a short run of wrangler parts with a friend this summer for some fast cash, but for now I have to be careful what I spend, especially with Christmas here. I was considering: Natadrol->formadrol, anabeta/erase stack, Ghenerate+natadrol, or Ghenerate + erase to try and lean up. But the more I think about it I just wana gain weight, and I got big like crazy when I was doing Ghenerate+ natadrol then finished with formadrol like two years ago. Plus they are cheap as hell. I respond crazy to natadrol. I just don't want to supp up right now due to still having some back issues. I feel like I won't make use of them to the fullest extent.
oh and btw 220 w10% and you will be a brick house bro. Get it.Log: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/226478-country-gets-huge.html#post3905023
- 11-22-2012, 11:18 AM
It is just a matter of time before you get back. You know you have done it before and can do it again. If I was going to pick from them I would go with Erase and Anabeta. But to be honest if money was an issue I would just stick to the basics and focus on diet. To be honest CBL has made the most improvement for me as of late. No supplement is going to compare to a solid diet protocol.
Would probably end up being more than 220. It is hard to think about losing that much weight haha. And to think I was considering 200 a viable option haha.
11-23-2012, 01:33 AM
I ended up going to lift around 11 something.
Decided to try and pull heavy. So I did my Shockwave Protocols set up:
Deadlifts 5 sets of 3 reps speed pulls 50%-70%
Bent over barbell rows PSR 95/145/195/225/255
Then came the hard part. The place was completely empty. Someone showed up so I asked them to record me. Might have been a mistake. Didnt get it but honestly I wasnt focused like I needed to be. It was just a feeling of being off. I think part of it was getting someone random to record me. Worrying that it wouldnt record instead of getting this heavy weight off the ground haha.
After that was feeling a bit crappy. Then this older lift showed up. Guy is 43 and puts most young guys to shame. Apparently he did some bodybuilding in his younger days when he was a marine. His legs are on the skinny side but you can tell he is strong and doesnt neglect them. Anyway got him to lift with me.
This is the 1st time post about this particular workout.
Close grip pulldowns 3 sets of 10 reps last set 3 negatives 14 whatever that means haha
Reverse grip bent over rows 3 sets of 10 reps last set 3 negatives 225
Pulldowns 2 sets of 10 reps not sure on weight
Pull ups wide grip 1 set AMAP plus 3 negatives At this point I couldnt do a single pull up. But I did do the 3 negatives.
Bent over side laterals 2 sets of 10 reps 25
Reverse pec deck 1 set of 10 reps plus 4 negatives 75
Prone incline front lateral ELECT 2 sets of 10 reps with 15 Did these wrong but oh well.
Ended up being a damn good workout. Took me a while to complete. Had a hell of a pump. Made sure I worked hard enough to kill some carbs for Thanksgiving. Hope everyone had a great day. Had a ton of turkey, stuffing, and sweet potato casserole. Then later some pie. Then fruity pebbles and raspberry sorbet haha.
For some enertainment
11-23-2012, 01:53 PM
Dude you would be nasty cut if you got to 200.... lol
11-24-2012, 02:27 AM
200 is just too low for me haha. I dont think I could go back. At least not walking around kind of weight.
I woke up dry as hell this morning. Felt damn good to be honest. The only thing was I was so thirsty. Always wake up so thirsty after Carb Back Loading. Will see how I wake up tomorrow. I do feel really full(muscle wise). Feels like my shirts are tighter in a good way. Anxious to go lift tomorrow. Ended up taking a good 3 hour nap earlier today.
11-24-2012, 05:00 PM
sounds like you have it planned out well. I wake up thirsty all the time no matter how much I drink. I finally got out of that cycle though and feel half hydrated in the mornings now even though I drink all day.
11-24-2012, 10:43 PM
The only thing now is what kind of routine I want to run. Considering doing a bit of a hybrid. It is so hard to decide haha. I havent done a 6 day routine in a LONG time but I am considering it. Or maybe what I might do is a 7 workout rotation and just rest as needed. Doing the 4 day hypertrophy workout and then modified Shockwave protocols where I do back, chest/shoulder, and legs. It would take me probably 9 days to go through it though.
Edit: I will post about my workout later.
11-24-2012, 10:53 PM
Whats funny is I am one of those guys who either can't or won't do a "routine". I feel like I have learned over the years what my body needs. Instead of sticking to a plan and letting weakness go by unaddressed, I constantly make changes as my body tells me.
The rest as needed thing sounds good. Currently I do something that is a legit program, forget what it is called though.
3 days - chest, back, leg. sometimes put an arm day in if I don't need a rest day. I rest on days when I need to, it's collage. I can't pick and choose.
I do high rep, mid rep, and low rep. I did 8 weeks of this with lots of volume. I have recently (last week) switched to working out everyday I can through my rotation, with less volume, but more intensity and slightly higher rest periods. Sorta power training oriented.
Unorthodox, but I have never stalled, and always see gains.
Those sound pretty sweet. I get to the point where I hear so many different workouts from different people with different goals half of them blurr together.
11-24-2012, 11:45 PM
Alright decided to do the same workout as last Saturday. The chest and shoulders shockwave protocols. It was pretty much the exact same thing. Didnt change the weights.
Incline BB ELECT sets of 3 reps with short rest between
135/165/195/215/235 immediately after 235 set dropped to 185 and repped it out 14 times
Decline BB ELECT sets of 3 reps with short rest between.
185/215/245/275/305 immediately after 305 drop to 245 and repped it 9 times. This wasnt so easy haha.
Seated BB ELECT sets of 3 reps with short rest between
105/125/145/165/185 immediately after 185 drop to 145 and repped it 14 times
Upright rows cable ELECT sets of 3 reps no break between sets
7/10/13/15/16 drop to 13 and repped it 9 times
DB Lateral raise 3 sets of 10 reps with 45s first set then 40s
There were a few changes. Hit an extra rep here and there. Plus I changed the upright row cable ELECT. It was 5 sets instead of 6. Allowed me to do better reps.
Like last time I felt HUGE. This time though I felt like I was much leaner. There were veins going crazy. Really wish I would have taken a pic. Couldnt help but do a little flexing in the locker room. Makes me said I didnt get a pic. But what it did do was made me realize I have to find a way to get some pics taken.
11-25-2012, 01:42 PM
11-26-2012, 10:25 PM
First day back at the maintance job. Talked to the director and apparently they asked for me by name. They have an opening and want to know if I would be interested. So it looks like after 6 weeks I might be hired on there. This is much more laid back. Pretty much go do work and if it doesnt get done they will know. Plus expectations are too high because of the last guy.
Anyway on to my workout. Decided to keep the weights the same for the most part. Walking around in steel toe boots all day sucks.
Front squat 3 sets of 12 reps with 165
Back squats 3 sets of 10 reps with 225
Leg press 3 sets of 10 reps with 3 negatives on last set with 540. Different leg press this time.
Leg extensions 7 sets of 10 reps ala FST-7 with 100 pounds. Probably rested a little too long between sets.
Seated leg curls 2 sets of PSR 90/135/165/195/220
Lying leg curls 2 sets of 10 reps plus 3 negatives with 125
Stiff leg deadlifts 3 sets of 10 with 235
Seated calf raise 100 reps afap sets with 45 pounds
Standing calf press 2 sets of 10 reps with 360
Didnt take music with me today but it was in my head haha. Pretty sure I had a few moments where I looked crazy. Speaking of which I took Craze plus 200mg of caffeine(pill form). Got some looks from people particularly some girls. Not sure if it was for a good or bad reason haha. Going to be sore as hell tomorrow.
11-27-2012, 07:33 AM
11-28-2012, 03:17 PM
11-28-2012, 03:48 PM
That is pretty much stand protocol for preworkout for me now. Usually I do a cup of coffee and Craze or some other preworkout. My cups of coffee are made with a scoop from a protein tub.Originally Posted by VolcomX311
It is only 1 scoop of Craze. Well a little more than a scoop.
I don't have too much trouble sleeping. Just a matter of getting into bed. I wouldn't mind trying some GHB though haha.
11-28-2012, 04:45 PM
11-28-2012, 05:29 PM
I have been known to be a terrible sleeper also. I have a bad habit of not getting into bed and then not being able to sleep later.Originally Posted by VolcomX311
Sometimes I mix in crystal light energy into my intra workout drink. Those have another 120mg per packet.
Today I popped 2 caffeine pills on top of a scoop of Craze.
11-28-2012, 10:10 PM
Flat DB press 3 sets of 10 reps with 95
Incline BB 3 sets of 10 reps with the last set having 3 negatives with 190
Decline BB 3 sets of 10 reps with the last set having 3 negatives with 225 and it killed me. Couldnt get 10 reps on the last set.
DB pullover 3 sets of 10 reps 70/70/70
BB curls PSR 2 sets 5*3 with a drop on the 2nd set 50/70/90/100/110
BB preach curls 3 sets of 10 reps with the last set having 2 negatives 65/65/65 Damn crappy "ez" curl bar.
Standing 1 arm DB concentration curls 3 sets of 10 reps 30/30
1-Push press ELECT 4 sets of 10 reps with 140
2-Seated military press 2 sets of 10 reps then 1 set of 10 reps plus 3 negatives used 160 for the 1st 2 sets and then dropped to 155. Again it kicked my ass.
3-BB half upright rows 2 sets of 10 reps then 1 set 10 reps plus 3 negatives. Used the 110 and it felt good.
4-Seated side laterals PSR(which is basically 1 long ELECT set[updated way to say it] broken up by weight increases). 1 set of 6/4/3/3/3 reps the weight was 15/20/25/30/35
5-BB shrugs Decided to do 3 sets of 10 reps with 225. Focus on the form a bit more.
6-Used machine dips since the dip belt was in use. Still did 3 sets of 10 with a drop and 3 more reps
7-Overhead DB triceps ext 1 set of 10 reps then 1 set of 10 reps plus 3 negatives. Just used 100 for both sets.
Today made it clear I need to rest and recover. Plan on taking time off till Monday. What I might do is use a 531 inspired deload though. More of an active recovery. What I will do is go ultra low carb after today. Should pull a little body fat off. Definitely trying to keep weight down a little bit. Hell most of my clothes dont fit anymore as it is. Not trying to buy a bunch of new clothes for a bigger build I dont plan on keeping haha.
11-30-2012, 07:34 AM
Was a little over my carb amount yesterday. What did it was beef jerky and breaded fish. Oh well it wasnt by much plus both were eaten later in the day. Ate plenty of food. Nice to just fill up on fat and protein. Might try and keep the fat down a little more to see how that treats me. Nothing too drastic but enough to notice.
Today is my birthday so another year added to my belt. I feel like I did learn a bit this year as opposed to years past.
Anxious to start this cycle off right. It sounds like it will start next Monday(the 10th). IML should be getting it in soon.
11-30-2012, 08:41 AM
Happy birthday man! Glad it was a good one. Keep it up bro.
11-30-2012, 11:15 AM
12-03-2012, 11:05 PM
Alright so I havent been posting my workouts. They have been a bit different lately. Rushing them a bit. So I have lowered the weights a little. I will explain more. For a back workout I did I modified the exercises I did. More or less going through the motions. Not using weights that were too heavy. Nothing to sprain myself too much.
When I did legs to keep the pace faster was drop the weights as I went. I started off with my normal weight and then lowered the weight each set. For instance of front squats I did 165/155/135. I did this for all my sets. Only did quads and hamstrings but got done in 40 minutes which is a lot faster than normal. Also I didnt do negatives.
Today I decided to do chest/shoulders/back. Wanted to do some pressing but still be balanced. So for every chest or shoulder exercise I superset with back.
Incline BB press PSR with bent over DB rows
Seated cable rows 5 sets of 10 reps
Declinde BB press PSR with underhand grip BB rows
Seated shoulder BB press with lat pulldowns
Half upright rows with face pulls
Bent over DB lateral raise
12-04-2012, 10:20 AM
Yesterday I messaged some girl on POF. Just asking what kind of movies she likes. Her profile was pretty bland. Her response was "back off sack of meet." When I corrected her typo she replied back "I don't date people who use steroids" haha. Girls are a damn trip haha.
12-06-2012, 10:10 AM
Time to post yesterdays workout. Before I do that I will say I got a leg massage before lifting. Wow she put me in pain haha. Didn't want to talk for fear of crying haha. Not really that bad but she put me through hell especially for being so small. Really broke up the knots in my legs.
Was planning on doing a Wendler 531 style workout. But got to the gym and realized I left my gym bag at home. Wasn't going to do that workout without a belt. So I did the DH Heavy Duty Hybrid workout again.
Front squats 3 sets of 12 reps with 165
Back squats 3 sets of 10 reps with 235
Leg press 3 sets of 10 reps with 540 last set 3 negatives
All this felt much easier than normal. Not sure if it was the little bit extra time off or leg massage. My next chiropractic adjustment and massage will most likely fall on my leg day again.
Leg extension 7 sets of 10 reps with 100 then 85. Only took 10 deep breaths between sets. Had to drop the weight by set 6.
Seated leg curl PSR 2 sets 75/120/165/195/210
Lying leg curls 2 sets of 10 reps plus 3 negative with 115
Stiff leg deadlifts 3 sets of 10 reps with 235
Seated calf raises 100 reps in as few sets as possible. Found a way to make these even harder haha. Yelled out during one of my reps haha.
Seated calf press 3 sets of 10 reps with 250
Tibialis(sp?) raise 3 sets of 12 reps with 45.
I tore my legs up. Got a good bit of food post workout. Made sure I fueled my body. Went to bed with a full belly and woke up feeling good. I really can't wait to see how this diet plus M-Sten treats me. As far as dosing goes I think I will do 1 with lunch 12:30 pm and 1 at about 5 pm which is about 45 to an hour pre workout. That way some is in my system while lifting and it will be active during my carb back load also.
12-06-2012, 11:08 PM
Decided to do Wendlers 531 on bench today. Felt pretty easy. Pretty much guessed on my max. Said it was 325 and then 90% of that is 295.
Flat bench (with fat gripz[orginally I typed "fat girls" haha])
190*5, 220*5, 250*5
Was planning on repping out the 250 to get a better guestimate of my max but kind of got wrapped up in the zone and stopped at 5 reps. Was really concentrating on the set up and form. It felt easy enough so I decided to do some singles.
295 for 4 singles. They were done pause press style and still relatively easy.
Incline DB press
BB curls PSR 50/70/90/100/110
Hammer curls with fat grips
40 for 2 sets of 10 reps
Ended up lifting with another guy. Talked to him a bit before. Seems like he knows a decent amount but still willing to learn. Personally I would rather have someone flexible enough to try new syles of training. Kind of a control freak like that haha. To be honest I thought he was a bit younger but turns out he is my age. He is just a widdle guy at 160 pounds. Real lean with decent strength. Supposed to train back with him tomorrow. Going to have to set up 2 bars for deadlifts that is for sure haha.
Should be getting the M-Sten soon. Will be fun to see how much I blow up on that. The down side is I need to buy some new clothes. Right now I can squeeze into XL shirts. When I go on cycle they will probably look painted on haha.
12-09-2012, 05:51 PM
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Alright time to talk about my workout last night.
Press 531 fat gripz 120*5, 140*5, 160*14 which is a rough estimated max of 235. Cant remember doing that well before on this.
Seated military press fat grips ELECT 5*3 135, 155, 175, 195, 215 Most I have done.
Cable upright rows PSR with fat gripz 7/10/13/15/16 drop to 12
Standing DB lateral raise 3 sets of 8 reps with 45s
Close grips BB press Fat grips 185 for 15 reps, 205*14 reps 225*9 reps
Dips however many sets it takes to 60 reps
DB french press 2 sets of 10 with 100 2nd set had 3 negatives
Wide grip lat pulldowns 3 sets of 10 reps
Standing concentration curls 3 sets of 10 reps with 40
Was surprised how well I did with the press and seated press. Plus the lateral raises werent too hard. Never been much of a close grip bencher but I have narrowed my grip on bench press recently. The dips were hell haha. Did the lat pulldowns to balance a little and warm up biceps.
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